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Topic: How has the depth and passion of pluto in relationships transformed you?
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RunAroundScreaming
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posted December 18, 2011 12:10 AM
  
I wanted to ask you guys this:How has the passion of pluto changed/transformed you in your relationships/friendships?
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According to grupovenus.com
Venus Mutually Aspects Pluto You will experience the heights and depths, love and hate, attraction and repulsion, agony and ecstasy in this relationship. A powerful, compelling fascination and irresistible sexual attraction draws the two of you together like magnets. You love each other with a depth of feeling that is surprising even to yourselves. The powerful charismatic power that you have over each other can be used to manipulate one another, and dominance, control, or jealousy easily become hot issues between you. Whether this is a brief passionate encounter or a lifelong attachment, you will change one another profoundly.
------------ The above is so true in my experience. Could anybody share their experience with pluto in relationships, but especially mutual venus-pluto aspects in synastry? I think it also depends on the specific synatry and composite though. Like i had the DW with someone who I felt really strongly for and we had a love stellium in the composite, and then we had sun trine pluto, sun trine jupiter, moon conjunct jupiter, and moon trine venus and uranus in synastry, but i had the DW with someone else and because our synastry wasnt as great, we didn't click as well. I feel that even if I never see or talk to him again, I will remember the moments we had for the rest of my life. And it is an understatement to say that he changed my life. After him I can't even look at a guy I crush on without thinking "This should be at the same intensity that it was with him or else it's not even worth it." He upped my standards for what I should look for in my relationships  . If I don't feel really really strongly for them, then it is not worth it.
Now I know what a real relationship feels like. What a soul-quenching, truly strong connection feels like, the kind of relationship the writer of The Notebook was trying to tell us about. And now my standards for connecting with ppl wont ever be the same. I feel more whole after all this because I know that that strong connection I seek really is out there. That person who gives you so much love your self-esteem feels brand new like a shiny new car. The part about how our feelings are so deep they surprise even ourselves is so true, as is true every other little thing it says down to the charismatic power part and the control and manipulative games. The sexual pull between us as well. Even other people would notice the sexual tension between us. I just wanted to share the amazingness of this double whammy venus-pluto thing, and As you can see, the description says "Whether this is a brief passionate encounter or a lifelong attachment, you will change one another profoundly." So, I wanted to ask you guys this: How has the passion of pluto changed/transformed you in your relationships/friendships? IP: Logged |
polysigh
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posted December 18, 2011 09:18 AM
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
I wanted to ask you guys this:How has the passion of pluto changed/transformed you in your relationships/friendships? I can relate to everything you wrote. Since i became interested in astrology pluto has been a big topic of fascination for me. I have venus/pluto conjunction almost exact, he has venus/pluto quincunx exact and we had dw sun/pluto and mars/pluto in synastry and i met him during a pluto venus transit. Like you, i keep looking to feel that same intensity but i am slowly realizing that i may never find this again and that i should just accept that i was able to experience such a relationship. It was both heaven and hell but i feel i learned so much about myself and i am forever changed. I was with someone for many years but then i met this person and everything changed in an instant.I think i had suppressed my natal venus/pluto my whole life until meeting this person kind of activated it. So yes, completely transformed and still evolving from this one experience that affected me on every level. ---------
According to grupovenus.com Venus Mutually Aspects Pluto You will experience the heights and depths, love and hate, attraction and repulsion, agony and ecstasy in this relationship. A powerful, compelling fascination and irresistible sexual attraction draws the two of you together like magnets. You love each other with a depth of feeling that is surprising even to yourselves. The powerful charismatic power that you have over each other can be used to manipulate one another, and dominance, control, or jealousy easily become hot issues between you. Whether this is a brief passionate encounter or a lifelong attachment, you will change one another profoundly.
------------ The above is so true in my experience. Could anybody share their experience with pluto in relationships, but especially mutual venus-pluto aspects in synastry? I think it also depends on the specific synatry and composite though. Like i had the DW with someone who I felt really strongly for and we had a love stellium in the composite, and then we had sun trine pluto, sun trine jupiter, moon conjunct jupiter, and moon trine venus and uranus in synastry, but i had the DW with someone else and because our synastry wasnt as great, we didn't click as well. I feel that even if I never see or talk to him again, I will remember the moments we had for the rest of my life. And it is an understatement to say that he changed my life. After him I can't even look at a guy I crush on without thinking "This should be at the same intensity that it was with him or else it's not even worth it." He upped my standards for what I should look for in my relationships . If I don't feel really really strongly for them, then it is not worth it.
Now I know what a real relationship feels like. What a soul-quenching, truly strong connection feels like, the kind of relationship the writer of The Notebook was trying to tell us about. And now my standards for connecting with ppl wont ever be the same. I feel more whole after all this because I know that that strong connection I seek really is out there. That person who gives you so much love your self-esteem feels brand new like a shiny new car. The part about how our feelings are so deep they surprise even ourselves is so true, as is true every other little thing it says down to the charismatic power part and the control and manipulative games. The sexual pull between us as well. Even other people would notice the sexual tension between us. I just wanted to share the amazingness of this double whammy venus-pluto thing, and As you can see, the description says "Whether this is a brief passionate encounter or a lifelong attachment, you will change one another profoundly." So, I wanted to ask you guys this: How has the passion of pluto changed/transformed you in your relationships/friendships?
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polysigh
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posted December 18, 2011 09:20 AM
sorry, my reply didn't post...have to try this again IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted December 18, 2011 10:01 AM
I suppose this aspect makes you open up parts of yourself that were locked. Relationships do that, I suppose. If it is the man's Pluto aspecting your Venus, you may find your are much different than you may have thought. You may have thought you were more of a surface person, but may find out that you were more of a primal creature than you would have, ever, expected.------------------
What is Your Greek Myth?
Passion, Lust, Greed.
http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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RunAroundScreaming
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posted December 18, 2011 11:54 AM
Polysigh thanks so much for sharing! So how exactly were you transformed, though? What part of your life or personality exactly was changed, how do you see things differently after him? Coul u be a bit more specific.By the waym Yes, it did post. Your reply is written there inside of the quote in bold. lol no worries. IP: Logged |
curiouswoman
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posted December 18, 2011 01:01 PM
my ex and had venus trine pluto. we went from extreme love to hate. we did change eachother profoundly for sure but once we broke up heaven turned to hell.IP: Logged |
polysigh
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posted December 18, 2011 05:40 PM
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Polysigh thanks so much for sharing! So how exactly were you transformed, though? What part of your life or personality exactly was changed, how do you see things differently after him? Coul u be a bit more specific.By the waym Yes, it did post. Your reply is written there inside of the quote in bold. lol no worries.
Thanks, RunAround, I didn't see that. Well, I was transformed in that the relationship brought to the surface all of the junk I never wanted to see or admit to about myself with regard to relationships i.e. major trust issues, issues from childhood, fear of intimacy etc. Had I not experienced this connection I don't think I would have had the catalyst to deep spiritual introspection. Like I said before, it was literally heaven and hell, agony and ecstasy. As much as the experience was painful in many ways, I would n't trade it for anything because I learned so much about myself and others. And I am still learning IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
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posted December 18, 2011 07:30 PM
So, how were you able to learn about all this? Your partner pointed it out to you? (u know how they say that the pluto person always seeks to transform the other person by pointing out their inability to conecyt with them on the same depth of level.) or you just realized it from feeling so insecure because of the relationshipIP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted December 19, 2011 12:53 AM
I have venus sq pluto in my natal, and everyone around my age has their pluto sq my venus... For me I dont really feel the energy much, its just the same.. Not much different... But I do also have Pluto in H7... After relationships play out, I do go back and revisit the whole relationship and I seem to change something about my self... Its different everytime... The one that has effected me the most, is pisces, who is not in my age group... (pluto wise) his pluto does not hit my venus...
But he does also have venus sq pluto and in the composite venus opps pluto.. Im not sure how to explain how I have changed since I met him.. But I will try... Hummm.. I never ever really really felt "caring" for someone.. I really had no clue what it meant to feel like you care for someone... (not talking about family)
In a way he has shown me, how to feel and what "its suppose" to feel like when you care...
I have blocked caring for so long, that I just lost it all... I was numb and had little to no feeling... He made me feel again... Now I know how I want to feel for someone.. Now I know I will never mistake that feeling again... Its either there or its not...
I would no longer settle for someone that doesnt make me "feel" Its scary to feel to much, but at the same time, it just feels good, and I want to feel.....
Its still a slow process but (shrug) Im working on it... IP: Logged |
scrappydog
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posted December 19, 2011 01:02 AM
It made me know love and pain on such an intense level that it literally almost killed me. I came back ten times stronger than I ever was before, Im no longer weak and I never will be again. I will never be another persons victim for as long as I live.IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
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posted December 19, 2011 01:19 AM
ScrappyDog, wow that's intense. I would say i learned something similar as well. It definitely empowered me to go after what i want and not be afraid to fight for the people who are important to me.Lioness, omg!! that's exactly what i learned too! I'm not sure if i wrote how it all transformed me in the original post, but this is exactly what i took from this passionate experience: "He made me feel again... Now I know how I want to feel for someone.. Now I know I will never mistake that feeling again... Its either there or its not...
I would no longer settle for someone that doesnt make me "feel" EDIT: Oh yes, i did talk about this same thing, it's near the end of the original post IP: Logged |
lindisfarne
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posted December 19, 2011 01:24 AM
Why are you duplicating threads? Was it because there was no sugarcoating through and through?I swear you posted this and got a lot of feedback IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted December 19, 2011 01:47 AM
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
ScrappyDog, wow that's intense. I would say i learned something similar as well. It definitely empowered me to go after what i want and not be afraid to fight for the people who are important to me.Lioness, omg!! that's exactly what i learned too! I'm not sure if i wrote how it all transformed me in the original post, but this is exactly what i took from this passionate experience: "He made me feel again... Now I know how I want to feel for someone.. Now I know I will never mistake that feeling again... Its either there or its not...
I would no longer settle for someone that doesnt make me "feel" EDIT: Oh yes, i did talk about this same thing, it's near the end of the original post
I didnt read through all of the posts... I just wrote how it changed me... Yeah it made me feel again, and just know what I want and I guess what I need..... Its nice to finally feel, but its tough dealing with it also...
I feel very conflicted over it..
Before I didnt suffer, at least I didnt know I was. I had no feeling...
Now to feel everything.... hummm I could never go back, because its truly what I need to be happy..
But he's another story, he wants a arrangement and to treat feelings like its a signed agreement... but Im not willing to do that...
Thats what I did before.. Now I want to feel, and I want to be felt back... I told him sometimes you have to use logic and sometimes you have to use feelings, you have to decide when its right... But love, romance isnt logically its "feeling"
sighhhh... All I can say is it blows!
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RunAroundScreaming
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posted December 19, 2011 02:24 AM
Lioness, what is he, a capricorn?This is what i said in my original post. Notice how similar it is to what you said? I feel that even if I never see or talk to him again, I will remember the moments we had for the rest of my life. And it is an understatement to say that he changed my life. After him I can't even look at a guy I crush on without thinking "This should be at the same intensity that it was with him or else it's not even worth it." He upped my standards for what I should look for in my relationships . If I don't feel really really strongly for them, then it is not worth it. Now I know what a real relationship feels like. What a soul-quenching, truly strong connection feels like, the kind of relationship the writer of The Notebook was trying to tell us about. And now my standards for connecting with ppl wont ever be the same. I feel more whole after all this because I know that that strong connection I seek really is out there. That person who gives you so much love your self-esteem feels brand new like a shiny new car. IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
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posted December 19, 2011 02:27 AM
Lindisfarne. You're an insistent little troll, aren't you? Why don't you go away. You've had your fun.IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
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posted December 19, 2011 04:28 AM
Omg, I think I get it you guys. I think I understand. My friend was just telling me how when he fell in love he stopped playing with girl's hearts and trying to be a player and use women, and his lifestyle completely changed after he realized what it really meant to care about someone. And i totally feel that the same thing has happened to me! Even though my lifestyle was squeaky clean before. I cannot watch porn after this experience...it is disgusting to me now. I see it now and i can't help but think "No, but they're not in love. That's disgusting. You can tell they dont even care about each other. It shouldnt be like that." And the only reason why i know it shouldnt be like that is bc of how much love i was able to feel for this person..like real love, true caring...not lust! I believe it was, for the first time. It's like pluto experiences add so much depth and substance to your life that things become more meanignful and your eyes are opened to what's right and what's wrong.IP: Logged |
polysigh
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posted December 19, 2011 10:21 AM
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
So, how were you able to learn about all this? Your partner pointed it out to you? (u know how they say that the pluto person always seeks to transform the other person by pointing out their inability to conecyt with them on the same depth of level.) or you just realized it from feeling so insecure because of the relationship
No, it wasn't pointed out to me. It was basically when we separated that I started some serious introspection brought on by the pain of not being with him. It was through my questioning and searching for answers about this crazy connection that led all of my issues to come to the surface so I could address them finally. I am still working on them though, an ongoing process. I definitely believe he came into my life for a reason. If not, I would still be walking around numb and unable to feel...along those lines... I agree with what Lioness posted. Definitely true for me.
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Lioness
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posted December 19, 2011 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Lioness, what is he, a capricorn?This is what i said in my original post. Notice how similar it is to what you said? I feel that even if I never see or talk to him again, I will remember the moments we had for the rest of my life. And it is an understatement to say that he changed my life. After him I can't even look at a guy I crush on without thinking "This should be at the same intensity that it was with him or else it's not even worth it." He upped my standards for what I should look for in my relationships . If I don't feel really really strongly for them, then it is not worth it. Now I know what a real relationship feels like. What a soul-quenching, truly strong connection feels like, the kind of relationship the writer of The Notebook was trying to tell us about. And now my standards for connecting with ppl wont ever be the same. I feel more whole after all this because I know that that strong connection I seek really is out there. That person who gives you so much love your self-esteem feels brand new like a shiny new car.
LOL... Pisces with a cap venus... Yes what you said.. Only you said it way better.  IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
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posted December 19, 2011 01:37 PM
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I definitely believe he came into my life for a reason. If not, I would still be walking around numb and unable to feel...along those lines... I agree with what Lioness posted. Definitely true for me.
Ooh, so we all three basically felt the same thing. That's pretty cool if you ask me IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
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posted December 19, 2011 02:01 PM
Curiouswoman and scrappydog, can you relate?IP: Logged |
Starry~*
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posted December 19, 2011 08:24 PM
Currently in a pretty strong pluto relationship.All I can say is, I find myself digging a deep hole, when really, everything is already there on the surface. Digging and Digging and Digging. I dig because I want to know things about him, in and out. I want to UNCOVER everything because I feel restless, but really just insecure. But I realized, the more I kept digging, the more I realized about MYSELF. Does it make sense? Can you guys relate to this? I've never learned so much about myself, or so consciously aware of myself in any other relationships. One day I would be happy that the relationship is going great, we rekindled etc. The next day I want to leave everything behind and destroy everything in my life. His sun conjunct my pluto in scorpio. As for the realization it's probably because we have composite sun conjunct pluto in 12th house, each of our plutos land in each other's 12th house and his pluto conjunct my ASC all in scorpio. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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posted December 19, 2011 09:18 PM
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Originally posted by scrappydog:
It made me know love and pain on such an intense level that it literally almost killed me. I came back ten times stronger than I ever was before, Im no longer weak and I never will be again. I will never be another persons victim for as long as I live.
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RunAroundScreaming
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posted December 19, 2011 11:02 PM
So starry, what did u learn about yourself specifically?IP: Logged |
Starry~*
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posted December 20, 2011 02:45 PM
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
So starry, what did u learn about yourself specifically?
That I over analyze everything and that alot of the problems that I thought were present in the relationship didn't even really exist mainly because it's all self manifested, by me. Example: I said he doesn't talk enough to me. But in reality, I'm the one that's putting up my wall really high. I never even TRIED to sit down and have a straight talk with him (til finally last sunday). The talk felt really good and we agreed on alot of things together, which I doubted we would before...for whatever reason...that I made up in my mind. Does that make sense? I'm trying to learn to relax more, and that the more I tense up and crawl up in my own dungeon thinking, the more I'm making a "monster" out of myself and the relationship. I learned that I'm very insecure, and it's because I've never had the security as a child and never had family love and support. All of these things are what's causing problems in my relationships. IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
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posted December 20, 2011 03:53 PM
They say pluto in relationships means holding on so tightly for fear the other person doesnt care that u destroy the relationship. So, that makes sense. I wrote about this in my tumblr once, and it was in reference to/inspired by all my pluto relationships definitely:The people you care about most it’s hardest to show how much you really care, it’s hardest to be vulnerable around, it’s hardest to even be yourself around. But still you feel the most yourself around, and the most vulnerable around, and like they can understand you better than anyone else, and without the need for words or explanations. You’re not even sure why you love them, you’re only sure they’re endlessly cool no matter how many faults they have or how many blonde moments they get. When they say something sweet, your gut reaction is to act indifferent, like you don’t really care all that much and that your heart isn’t jumping for joy and having a party. When they hug you close or look in your eyes lovingly, your immediate reaction is to reject them or not show as much emotion as them. But, if it’s someone you don’t care about as much, who you know you could probably live without, you can look in their eyes all day, respond with buckets of sweetness whenever they tell you something nice, and flirt all you want. But true love is patient. It takes its time. It doesn’t rush. It builds trust slowly. It gives many second chances. It always forgives, and builds a friendship first. It endures pain, and always believes the best about the other person. Sometimes the relationships where two people love each other the most are the most filled with problems all because of fear of rejection. IP: Logged | |
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