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Topic: Unpopularity
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Doux Rêve
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posted December 21, 2011 11:33 AM
  
 Fondue !Thanks for sharing ! I can relate to some extent  IP: Logged |
lechien
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From: in a giant room with 2 little furry friends
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posted December 21, 2011 11:45 AM
oh noooo, t.Saturn just entered my 11th.  but i withdrew while it was still in the 10th. i became a misanthrope due to being let down and mistreated by people who i thought could trust, and finally exiting this phase. i lost pretty much all my *friends* who didn't care to stick around while i was absent. so it's more like i could trim down non-genuine friends during this time. i'm curious now though, i hope i'm not making enemies during t.Saturn 11th. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted December 21, 2011 12:46 PM
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I was thinking that low water makes a person insensitive. What do you think? Why, do you have low water  ------------------
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CosmicKarma360
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posted December 21, 2011 01:30 PM
Ooh yeah! Queen of the Unpopular over here! Good old n.Saturn in the 11th, and a heavily afflicted n.Venus. T-squares in there, too. Yeah, I could write a book on being the loner, out-of-place kid growing up. Not much better now, either. I do have a good, solid, but small group of friends. It took years to really get them, though. Love my alone time, but I do get too lonely sometimes. Make myself go out to keep from feeling too isolated. What I have learned though, is that maybe what I think I see, and what's reality is pretty skewed. I mean, I've never had the whole Oprah thing, calling her friend, Gayle every single day. Nope, never had that with anyone. On the other hand, I now realize that most people don't. Right now, I see some of my friends every now and again, and it's fine. However, I always thought that was wrong. Like I *had* to see/hear from someone once a week to truly be "friends" with them. Nah, my friends and I all live different lives. We keep in touch regularly, and that's enough. It doesn't have to be every single day or week. IP: Logged |
CosmicKarma360
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posted December 21, 2011 01:33 PM
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Fondue !Thanks for sharing ! I can relate to some extent
Thank you both, Fondue and Doux! I can relate to what both of you said. IP: Logged |
sand
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posted December 22, 2011 02:36 AM
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I would also say, too, that sometimes the people that you think are popular are actually really lonely.
true for me. i think it can be a coping mechanism too. like learning how to be popular outside of home coz there is not much there. i mean not much there in terms of siblings as i was an only child. in my chart i guess this can be seen by having cap on the IC but moon in the 10th house. i am more at home outside i guess and with friends/ public. IP: Logged |
Venus
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posted December 22, 2011 02:47 AM
FK's post sounds super familiar, i dont have much problem making friends but u see im a drifter.. i drift away i've changed my circle of friends a number of times when i was younger, most of them i dont even talk too anymore but some friends i met in college are different, they held on to me even though i drifted, i can feel honest affection from their side and thats when i commit to friendship.. elsewhere i never felt a reciprocal affection, you see im a scorpio moon and if we dont feel the "mutual" connection then it doesn't exist even in casual friendships. anywho, gemsquared, sometimes its not you its THEM! u seem pretty cool, give it time u'll find friends that matter
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lindisfarne
Knowflake Posts: 1108
From: she doesn't know that i left my urge in the icebox
Registered: Oct 2011
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posted December 22, 2011 02:51 AM
Saturn in 11th ... hm my friend has that she was very popular in school.I was very popular growing up, once high school started that changed. I was still well liked but I really just enjoyed being alone and away from people. No idea what that means. I think popular is also subjective. Some people are more confident than others. Thats key - confidence. And not trying hard. "popularity" is natural IP: Logged |
mockingbird
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posted December 29, 2011 08:37 PM
My chart:  I was not popular at all during HS - felt like a complete social outcast. Then I moved away right before the start of my senior year. Just before graduation, I was back in the area. Turns out, I became the subject of rampant speculation. Everyone knew me, but I was told that they all assumed either that I was unapproachable or that I had other things going on. And no one asked me out...
...in my early-twenties, I found out that several guys had tried to through a particular (guy) friend of mine, but that he never passed along the requests <_< So, unpopular? Intimidating?
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VenusDiSirius
Knowflake Posts: 4352
From: Surfing Kite. Seriously.
Registered: Aug 2010
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posted December 29, 2011 08:57 PM
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Funny thing is that sometimes I do get lonely, even though I usually like being on my own. Kind of paradoxical.
Very Saturn! You can handle solitude-you still want to make a connection,but the fact you are experiencing it so well,dissolves the drive to do something about it-> it is redundant,and Saturn doesn't do redundant. IP: Logged |
Chironrising
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From: Chicago, IL, USA
Registered: Dec 2011
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posted December 29, 2011 09:37 PM
Popularity - expansion of name, positive image expanding...regardless of actual person, persona expands...persona, image to the world..so jupiter and saturn almost interely responsible for this....jupiter in sagitarius is expansion...focused expansion... so in sagitarius one would focus on whatever house saturn was in and try to expand that way...the persona by looking at its relationship to saturn.. perhaps saturn is in scorpio....then too much focus on jupiter might be bad for saturn...or the persona and lead to notoriety? Who cares, who shares about you? Popularity may involve neptune too, or tricking the masses, or lying to oneself to become popular at the expense of the astral body - aka lying drains the mana here... authenticity vs. illusion...falling for your own net = dissolution. so maybe it just matters how we go about it like for me jupiter in capricorn - no not in fall
now that i know I should focus intensely on the occult and psychology - saturn in scorpio and chose my circle wisely so I can overcome my fears of releasing secrets - aka bonding authenticaly and make true friends, to achieve authentic popularity. IP: Logged |
DayandNight21
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posted December 31, 2011 05:33 AM
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Low water would be my guess
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I think it is the opposite. Fire and air is popularity. Low of any of them can be. IP: Logged
I agree that fire and air make for popularity. There can be a number of other factors too that make for popularity, this is just one I have observed.
Also agree with the uranus/pluto strong can be a factor, possibly also saturn strong.
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DayandNight21
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posted December 31, 2011 05:37 AM
Meant to add that houses are important too.
11th and 5th houses seem to be popular, 2nd and 8th less so as read they are square to them and are more about resources/possessions etc.
I agree with this reading based on charts of people I know, however it does depend on what planets are in thoses houses, also the progressed charts sometimes need to be looked at as well as the natal. IP: Logged |
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