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Topic: Family Members Sharing Mars Signs: Fight or Flight
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NativelyJoan
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From: New England
Registered: Sep 2011
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posted December 27, 2011 12:48 PM
  
Well,My family is filled with a dominant fire energy. Everyone in my 6 member family has Fire as a dominant element. Growing up our house was basically a battlefield, swords were kept close at hand in case a dual was initiated. Which happened very frequently. The result of growing up in a family of fighters has left us all basically estranged living in different parts of the United States. Unfortunately for me I live within hours of my father, who I am estranged from and who share's my Mars sign. Though luckily for me he'll be moving 8,000 miles away next year. The purpose of this thread is to better understand shared mars sign dynamics. Whether in friendship or particularly in family's. Both me and my estranged father have Mars in it's own sign Aries. It's like fight club when we get into a room together, which thankfully isn't often because I don't speak to him nor see him more than maybe once a year. This latest family get together, me and him had our swords out. Our history goes deeper than our Mars sign placements, however on a surface level I'd like to better understand the irritable tension experienced between those that share Mars placements. Being a Libra Sun allows me to speak pleasantly when things get heated however he becomes irate in arguments (he has Capricorn as a dominant sign) and is ready to physically attack me. It used to scare me as a kid but as an adult, I'm disgusted how he used his inability to control his anger to intimidate his children and others. Today, I throw that intimidation right back at him. He thinks gentle people are weak, and thank goodness I've got Mars in Aries in the 1st I'm not afraid to stand my ground when it comes to quarreling with him. Share your experience with same mars placements, particularly the not so pleasant experiences in your friendships or with your family. What are your mars placements and aspects? And how did the differences or similarities in your Martian expressions influence that relationship? IP: Logged |
NativelyJoan
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From: New England
Registered: Sep 2011
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posted December 28, 2011 06:50 PM
Astrology of Family Relationships "An argument in favor of astrology is that of family relationships portrayed in the astrological charts of parent and child. Comparing the birth charts of family members can be rather illuminating. It is often found that there is a lot of correlation between the charts of members of the same family. The genetic blueprint is not only present in DNA but also in astrology... Some areas of each family member's chart will often show that certain degrees are prominent amongst the family with many planetary placements or angles located there. Sometimes signs in general show a lot of activity for each member and it can be found that certain signs always have some planet posited there, while others seem to be entirely neglected... The French scientist, Michel Gauquelin, well known for discovering the "Mars Effect", tested many areas of astrology including family relationships. What he found was that there was little correlation between parents and children's planetary placements within signs. However, he did find that if a parent had a particular planet on an angle of the chart, then a child often had the same planet on the same angle. His research into this and the conclusions drawn were based on the data of 60,000 birth charts. The planets he found replicated on the angles were, Moon, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn."
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Betty Boop
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From: Betty Boop Land
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 28, 2011 07:35 PM
Interesting we have a lot of Mars connections in my family as well.My grandmother - my mum and my auntie all have Scorpio Mars. My grandfather had a Leo Mars. I have a Capricorn Mars. My dad has an Aquarius Mars. My dog has an Aquarius Mars as well. I never look up my grandparents on my dad's side... because I'm not very interested in them and we've never been close. I barely know them actually. The gist of how these relationships have gone down: - Me and my grandmother were always very close and I could tell her anything. - My mum and I are also very close - she's like my best friend! - My grandmother and my mum (both Sco Mars) were close as well! Always talking about everything in their lives... always close friends! - My auntie had and still has issues with my grandmother (even after her death)... As far as I'm concerned she is emotionally erratic and a little crazy when it comes to her 'issues'... although quite apart form this, she is a nice person. My grandmother and her have had some HUGE arguments though... really massive arguments - everyone crying in the end and ladeedaa.... drama drama.... (They both have Sco Mars, as above! They also both have Scorpio Moons to top it off..) - My grandfather couldn't stand my father... If they were in the same room my grandfather would walk out. They have opposite Mars signs in Aquarius and Leo. My grandfather was very upset that my mum decided to marry him.. although he was happy that they had *me* and he loved me very much. - My father was not hateful towards my grandfather... *but*... he was strangely fascinated... He thought my grandfather was a 'real' man.. or the way a man 'should' be -traditionally.. whilst he saw himself as kind of 'odd' (Aquarius?). He even wrote a book where one of the characters was based on my grandfather. - My grandmother and grandfather had an insanely passionate soulmate relationship - that had some very high highs.. and some very low lows.. The best way to characterize their relationship is a total roller coaster ride that ended in something like a friendship (more calm as they got older). They also had some intense arguments though - and I know this in great detail since my Cancer auntie (mentioned above!) will not stop going on about it.
 - My mum and my dad.... Where do I even start? I don't think two people who are more *different* and completely alien to each other - have ever decided to tie the knot.
Other than having opposite Suns (Leo&Aqua).... the squared Mars signs in Aquarius and Scorpio really topped the cake.
The one thing they had in common is academic things... They are&were both into reading/writing/teaching and so on... both very airy... (They have an air grand trine in synastry).
But this is a very detached intellectual similarity. They still email each other to this day - and they can talk about impersonal things.. But on a deeper emotional level they are soooooooooooooooooooooo different... O.M.G. I'm not surprised I have a Sun/Moon square in natal - because they are like chalk and cheese. The years I spent with them - when I was very young... all I remember is *arguments* followed by complete silence... followed by someone being absent (leaving - or traveling abroad to escape the situation - sometimes taking me with them) followed by more arguments and more silences. I don't feel affected by this - as, in retrospect, I feel like I was too self-centered at that age to really give a damn about whatever they were doing... I was very disinterested in their relationship.. I just felt like "pfffffffffft they're at it again!... what else is new?" I got so sick and tired of them being together - and I was really happy when my mum filed for divorce. ^ This is another reason why I don't want any kind of emotional insanity in my relationships... I'm not interested in anything that sounds dramatic or 'hollywood' - that one might expect to see in a chick-flick or drama. Because I really had *enough* of this growing up (my SN is in Scorpio conj Pluto). IP: Logged |
NativelyJoan
Knowflake Posts: 1251
From: New England
Registered: Sep 2011
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posted December 28, 2011 08:07 PM
Thanks for sharing that incisive familial description Betty Boop. I really enjoyed reading it and it's made me more aware of the dynamics within my own family. It's interesting the role astrology can play in analyzing our families. It's an avenue to decipher differences and connections. In my family: Mother, Mars in Gemini Father, Mars in Aries Sibling 1, Mars in Cancer Sibling 2, Mars in Capricorn Sibling 3, Mars in Aries NativelyJoan, Mars in Aries We have 3 people with Mars in Aries in our 6 member family. My sister with Mars in Cancer is estranged from my father going on 10 years now. I've been estranged from my father for 3 years, and we both share Mars in Aries. You'd think it'd bring us closer together but it hasn't. Sibling 1 with Mars in Cancer has a lot of tension with sibling 2 Mars in Capricorn. They have a tight opposition in their synastry and haven't spoken in years. They are the two oldest siblings and can't be left in a room together or fighting erupts. They've grown pretty disinterested by one another also. It's sad. My immediate family is complicated enough I haven't yet moved my analysis towards my extended family, aunts, uncles, cousins, etc. I plan to do that very soon though, a big family reunion is coming up  . IP: Logged |
NativelyJoan
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From: New England
Registered: Sep 2011
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posted December 28, 2011 08:15 PM
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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
The years I spent with them - when I was very young... all I remember is *arguments* followed by complete silence... followed by someone being absent (leaving - or traveling abroad to escape the situation - sometimes taking me with them) followed by more arguments and more silences. I don't feel affected by this - as, in retrospect, I feel like I was too self-centered at that age to really give a damn about whatever they were doing... I was very disinterested in their relationship.. I just felt like "pfffffffffft they're at it again!... what else is new?" I got so sick and tired of them being together - and I was really happy when my mum filed for divorce. ^ This is another reason why I don't want any kind of emotional insanity in my relationships... I'm not interested in anything that sounds dramatic or 'hollywood' - that one might expect to see in a chick-flick or drama. Because I really had *enough* of this growing up (my SN is in Scorpio conj Pluto).
It was like I was reading my own thoughts. That is exactly the situation I grew up in with my parents. Except it was an Aquarius father and Aries mother. Oh the drama, arguments, disappearing acts, my father moving away for years at a time, having affairs while they were still married which all lead to my mother divorcing him similar to yours. Since I was 10 I'd been counting the days until they divorced, that gift only came when I was 18 and their divorce was a nightmare that took 2 years. My father made sure he got everything and my mother got nothing. It's amazing really what you said. It's a direct refection of what I went through with my parents growing up. I blame the dominance of fire for the fighting. I learned about the necessity of clear and honest communication in relationships because of the awful communication between my parents and within my family growing up. IP: Logged |
Nine
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From: The Cusp of Love
Registered: May 2009
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posted December 28, 2011 09:09 PM
I grew up in a house of six, a child in a world of adults.2 Gemini Mars
2 Scorpio Mars
1 Cancer Mars
1 Taurus Mars (me) Mars in Scorpio were horrible to live with, it's amazing how cruel adults can be to children. They were high maintenance, demanding, and took pleasure in hurting my feelings. IP: Logged |
NativelyJoan
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From: New England
Registered: Sep 2011
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posted December 29, 2011 12:45 AM
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Originally posted by Nine:
Mars in Scorpio were horrible to live with, it's amazing how cruel adults can be to children. They were high maintenance, demanding, and took pleasure in hurting my feelings.
That sounds horrible. I agree with you about adults and how they react and respond to children. They are delicate creatures, very sensitive to the environment and need to be treated with the utmost care and delicacy. On a side note, I witnessed the most horrific interaction between a father and his 4 year old son recently. Profanity and aggressive handling. I thought about the protocol for getting in touch with social services, but that's a sensitive topic in general that I'll refrain from getting into. Powerful Mars positions or aspects if not managed well can produce an overbearing and volatile individual (pretty much my father). It's hard growing up in an environment that feels like a war zone. It can really mess you up as an adult, I'm still trying to heal. If I might ask Nine, how do you think your experiences growing up in an environment like you've described shaped you as an adult? IP: Logged |
sand
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posted December 29, 2011 04:34 AM
ack i was replying to this last night but then saw the title and thot u needed to have similar mars placements. i have mars in scorpio h1. my mom has mars in cancer h1. my dad has mars in sag no idea what house. his birth certificate has no time so i couldn't peep it without asking. my half brother has mars in aries. don't have his birth cert but i know his bday. don't care where my sister's mars is hehe! i just know libra sun. my other half brother has mars in aries too. no idea where their mom's mars is in. not really a volatile environment. they're more leave things unsaid and hold it in and pretend everything is okay types lol! other side of my family has heavy aries. i have sun opposite mars, aries dominant at least according to pullen, mercury in aries. my mom has venus in aries and h1 mars. venus in aries is the placement they share the most. 3/5 of her siblings have it. my cousin also has sag sun/aries moon/rising. lotsa fireworks there. none of them talk cept each of them used to talk to my libra sun aunt who as i mentioned has passed. IP: Logged |
NativelyJoan
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From: New England
Registered: Sep 2011
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posted December 29, 2011 01:24 PM
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Originally posted by sand:
ack i was replying to this last night but then saw the title and thot u needed to have similar mars placements....lotsa fireworks there. none of them talk cept each of them used to talk to my libra sun aunt who as i mentioned has passed.
No problem Sand . It was a misleading thread title, but I was interested in mars placements between families in general, I mentioned shared mars placements because I have those in my family as an example of how mars placements and aspects play out through familial dynamics. In reading your description of your family I was surprised to see so much Aries energy. I can definitely understand the not really talking about things and leaving things unsaid. It's wonderful that you had a Libra aunt to mediate things and allow communicative energy to be released. I'm so sorry about your loss. You are a Venusian also with planets in the 7th so in a sense you carry that ability to reason and communicate effectively. Maybe within in your family if you don't already fill this role, you could accept the role of communicator and mediator. Sometimes we need air to cool down all that fire.  I'm a Venusian also and I've noticed I unintentionally fill that role in my family. I've got 8th house energy so I end up bringing the truth to light even when I don't mean too. But in the end it works out for the best because with the truth on the surface my family can work effectively through accepting the truth and finding peace. Instead of ignoring it and repressing our emotions. Which being a fire dominant family we tend to do, and go about on our own individual paths ignoring simmering issues. My twin sister and I, both being Libra's have concluded our family is pretty much filled with crazy people who have no idea how to communicate, lol. But they're learning. IP: Logged |
Nine
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From: The Cusp of Love
Registered: May 2009
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posted December 29, 2011 10:02 PM
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If I might ask Nine, how do you think your experiences growing up in an environment like you've described shaped you as an adult?
Studying astrology has helped me rationalized most of my childhood as "fate." A supervisor once said I have issues with authority. I believe that's the net effect. IP: Logged |
inthemisosoup
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posted December 30, 2011 03:11 PM
My dad and I both have our Mars in Pisces. My mom and my sister have Mars in Gemini. My Uncle on my Mom's side also shares a Mars in an air sign, Libra. Interesting. ATM I can't do my grandparents because I don't remember their YOBs.EDIT: Oh! Cool addition: In terms of house placements, my Mom, Dad, and I all have our Mars in house 1. My sister's is in the opposite, House 7. I can't tell my Uncle's ATM because I don't know his TOB. IP: Logged |
Desiring Shadows
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From: UNITED STATES, BABY
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 06, 2012 08:00 AM
I'm a MARS SCORPIO in the 6th.
I get along well with pretty much everybody.
1 air = gemini (dad)
2 fire = (mom) aries/leo (sis)
1 earth = virgo (sis)My mom, the mars in aries & venus in aries is definately the most argumentative, spontaneous. Astrology definately validates itself with that one. I'm both libra venus & mars scorpio, so of course theres going to be some tension. I don't let her get to me though. How do we interact? Lets see.
The mars in leo is definately warm and laughs loud. Laughs easily too, anything that could be mistaken for funny.
Mars aries, extreme socialist. Will talk to anything with a face. Says "right?" at the end of every sentence she iniates, hoping for the conversation to continue. Mars in gemini when he gets mad he gets all bouncy and highstrung. Mars in gemini gets along especially well with the last 2 mars signs listed. Mars in scorpio doesn't iniate anything. She does what she does and if someone talks to her, she'll talk back. She mostly talks to the mars in virgo because she feels comfortable around her, but if its just a simple question she doesnt mind asking the others. Mars in virgo is friends with all. Talkative and friendly, hangs with whoever. My friend & I are close. We talk all of the time. Laughing, enjoying our time together. I am in love him... except--theres no attraction. I love who he is, I just cant be in love with him. It hasn't happened.
He's a venus gemini, mars scorpio.
I'm a venus libra, mars scorpio.
Obviously this isn't a fling, our masculine & feminine energies don't go together. It's weird, Astrology. We can get along so well having compatible venus/venus & mars/mars placements... but because his mars doesnt match my venus, there is no sexual attraction. Then, in astrology, when my venus matches the other persons mars, their is sexual attraction but no basic similaries in behavior. Why are we like this? Its those with dual elements who are truly blessed.
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