posted January 03, 2012 01:42 AM            

factors that govern singing based on my observation of several hundred singers..

1) venus conjunct mc ascendant, in the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd house...

2) venus in aquarius is the most prominent venus sign for modern singers....look it up at astrotheme...taylor swift included...elton john...etc..etc..

3) venus in aspect to second house rulers...

4) venus in aspect to north node in taurus..

posted January 03, 2012 01:50 AM            

I gave the correct answer at the beginning of this thread. The links were for you because you're a non-believer.

You over-estimate your Astro abilities.

Nice to see you posting T

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Well, then. Start walking your talk and then you can tell people it's ruled by Sagittarius (legs) or Pisces (feet) and have them believe you...T

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posted January 03, 2012 02:02 AM            

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Originally posted by lalalinda:
I can't believe a pip-squeak like you coffee would continue arguing after numerous links have been posted.

I gave the correct answer at the beginning of this thread. The links were for you because you're a non-believer.

You over-estimate your Astro abilities.

Nice to see you posting T

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The answer is Gemini, as to what rules the voice.

posted January 03, 2012 02:40 AM            

And we get the impression by the fact that you have a big habit of stating your OPINION as straight up fact.

posted January 03, 2012 02:52 AM            

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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
^ lol you're kinda delusional aren't you? Can you not see the links posted? And anyone with a somewhat elementary knowledge of astrology knows about taurus ruling the throat.

And we get the impression by the fact that you have a big habit of stating your OPINION as straight up fact.

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No, I was delusional at a point, but no, not about astrology. there is no more for me to say other than thanks to all the people in the world who gave me actions, rather than words. You don't know how much respect you gave. I claim the oscar, thank you

Yes, it can be hard to say that all these years, you've learned the wrong way to do astrology. That and I understand people here want others to agree with them - that's why I'm a little unpopular here. I give it straight up bu11shi.t stylee. You don't seem to like that approach.

What I've done, you ain't taking that away.

posted January 03, 2012 02:56 AM            

You remind me of an ex lol! He needed to get his head out of the clouds and back to reality.
You're unpopular cos your opinions (which you state as fact) don't really make sense. IQ's respected, you're evidently not. And it's not cos your ideas are just *that* revolutionary lol.

posted January 03, 2012 06:39 AM            

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Yes, I can understand not violating very core beliefs (such as there being 12 signs, or that Gemini's symbol is the twins, etc.). However, on other matters, who's to say that everything is black-and-white, one way only?

I understand believing that your way is correct and wanting others to agree with you; that's normal. However, I don't really feel that everything in astrology is simple and on some issues, I do feel that things are 'open' enough to different ideas--not everything, and not very core and established things, but some areas are more fluid and flexible.[/B]

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posted January 04, 2012 11:13 AM            

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Originally posted by Coffee:
Yes I need one. I'm much more into advanced astrology to be bothered about basic stuff. Although if I did basic astrology stuff I wouldn't need to refer ANYONE to someone else who knows the basic stuff. There are many of the basic astrology people here, yet not enough advanced ones.

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The problem here is in how the question was asked, "which sign rules the voice?sagittarius? and if mercury conj sag then it means a person can sing with a nice voice?"

There are actually two questions contained within it that cannot be given a single answer for both.

ANSWERS AS TO SIGN RULERSHIP:
1.) No, Sagittarius does not rule the voice.
2.) Taurus is the sign with rulership of the vocal cords, the physical mechanism for controlling tone, pitch - the quality of the voice, whether it is used for singing or not.
a) from p.131 of The Rulership Book (Rex Bills): "singers, singing: Venus, Taurus (Uranus)."
b) from p.154 (of same book):
- "vocal cords, vocal disorders: 2[house], Taurus, Mercury 3[house]...
- vocalists: Venus...
- voice, vocal organs: Mercury, 3[house], Taurus, 2[house]..."

Respiration is powered by the diaphragm (ruled by Cancer, Virgo according to same book), which controls the lungs.

Take it from a Taurus who won a full college scholarship for voice (natal Venus in Taurus conj Mars in Gemini, Mercury parallel Mars).

One of the most important things for singers is lack of inhibition. Inhibition from holding apprehension in the body kills the relaxation of the throat and freezes the diaphragm. This is why many singers with big voices tend to be of the fire signs, because their passion comes through more strongly. Sagittarius types, of all the sign types, seem to be able to do this more naturally than the rest of us - on average.

But rulership of quality of voice (tone, pitch) belongs to Venus (Taurus); motivation for communication in general belongs to Mercury (Gemini)/3rd. Feeling in the voice from a singer like Josh Groban (b. February 27, 1981)or Andrea Bocelli (b. 22 September 1958) comes from water elements like Moon/Cancer, Neptune/Pisces, etc, with help from Venus. There are operatic vocalists who are more technically skilled like José Cura (duet with Sarah Brightman, "There for Me" from her CD Time To Say Goodbye), but the feeling quality comes from water factors.

Aggressive vocal stylings like those taught by Melissa Cross and heard in hardcore metal are diaphragmatic dominant with lots of 'push' - referred to as 'heat' and require far more range of various vocalizations than the operatic - and in my opinion greater actual skill. These "screaming" vocals are ruled by Mars.

THAT is advanced astrology, which acknowledges the body's multifaceted interplay in any activity or event and takes into account all relevant energies. To practice advanced astrology you must first master the basics. It won't be found in sign-dominant approaches.

posted January 04, 2012 12:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
The problem here is in how the question was asked, [b]"which sign rules the voice?sagittarius? and if mercury conj sag then it means a person can sing with a nice voice?"

There are actually two questions contained within it that cannot be given a single answer for both.

ANSWERS AS TO SIGN RULERSHIP:
1.) No, Sagittarius does not rule the voice.
2.) Taurus is the sign with rulership of the vocal cords, the physical mechanism for controlling tone, pitch - the quality of the voice, whether it is used for singing or not.
a) from p.131 of The Rulership Book (Rex Bills): "singers, singing: Venus, Taurus (Uranus)."
b) from p.154 (of same book):
- "vocal cords, vocal disorders: 2[house], Taurus, Mercury 3[house]...
- vocalists: Venus...
- voice, vocal organs: Mercury, 3[house], Taurus, 2[house]..."

Respiration is powered by the diaphragm (ruled by Cancer, Virgo according to same book), which controls the lungs.

Take it from a Taurus who won a full college scholarship for voice (natal Venus in Taurus conj Mars in Gemini, Mercury parallel Mars).

One of the most important things for singers is lack of inhibition. Inhibition from holding apprehension in the body kills the relaxation of the throat and freezes the diaphragm. This is why many singers with big voices tend to be of the fire signs, because their passion comes through more strongly. Sagittarius types, of all the sign types, seem to be able to do this more naturally than the rest of us - on average.

But rulership of quality of voice (tone, pitch) belongs to Venus (Taurus); motivation for communication in general belongs to Mercury (Gemini)/3rd. Feeling in the voice from a singer like Josh Groban (b. February 27, 1981)or Andrea Bocelli (b. 22 September 1958) comes from water elements like Moon/Cancer, Neptune/Pisces, etc, with help from Venus. There are operatic vocalists who are more technically skilled like José Cura (duet with Sarah Brightman, "There for Me" from her CD Time To Say Goodbye), but the feeling quality comes from water factors.

Aggressive vocal stylings like those taught by Melissa Cross and heard in hardcore metal are diaphragmatic dominant with lots of 'push' - referred to as 'heat' and require far more range of various vocalizations than the operatic - and in my opinion greater actual skill. These "screaming" vocals are ruled by Mars.

THAT is advanced astrology, which acknowledges the body's multifaceted interplay in any activity or event and takes into account all relevant energies. To practice advanced astrology you must first master the basics. It won't be found in sign-dominant approaches.

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