Author
|
Topic: ScorpSun CapMoon need the other person to take initiative?
|
ScorpSag Knowflake Posts: 30 From: New York, NY USA Registered: Nov 2010
|
posted January 02, 2012 09:23 PM
Do Scorp Sun /Cap Moon guys generally need the gal to take the upper hand/make all the moves? Or could this be this guy's baggage?.....OR is he just not into it?Here's his chart: IP: Logged |
Capriquarius Knowflake Posts: 908 From: So. Cal Registered: Dec 2010
|
posted January 02, 2012 09:24 PM
Not into it is the safe bet.The chart isn't showing up. IP: Logged |
ScorpSag Knowflake Posts: 30 From: New York, NY USA Registered: Nov 2010
|
posted January 02, 2012 09:26 PM
deletedIP: Logged |
ScorpSag Knowflake Posts: 30 From: New York, NY USA Registered: Nov 2010
|
posted January 02, 2012 09:26 PM
oops. sorryIP: Logged |
ScorpSag Knowflake Posts: 30 From: New York, NY USA Registered: Nov 2010
|
posted January 02, 2012 09:27 PM
we've been dating for 4 months so i doubt hed stick around if he wasnt into it. he acts like a puppy dog. i have to initiate everything.give me a minute to get the chart up, havent used my photobucket in years! lol IP: Logged |
ScorpSag Knowflake Posts: 30 From: New York, NY USA Registered: Nov 2010
|
posted January 02, 2012 09:28 PM
IP: Logged |
mintgirl123 Knowflake Posts: 1525 From: Registered: Nov 2009
|
posted January 02, 2012 09:38 PM
From the chart, I can see that he represses part of himself and doesn't really reveal that part to most people. He finds it hard to express affection bc his venus in the 12th. Also seems somewhat passive and lazy (neptune conjunct mars). Finds it hard to express emotions too (moon square saturn)Seems he's pretty hard to deal with? That's my impression from the chart. Scorpy placements, a cappy moon and things in the 12th house? Those squares are pretty hard aspects (the moon square venus for men is really difficult) IP: Logged |
Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 2277 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
|
posted January 02, 2012 09:38 PM
lol@ puppy dog.Maybe he's just not your type. I like his chart overall - although his Moon could be better off! Do you have anything like Moon/Venus/Jupiter - in trine or sextile with his Moon? Mars/Neptune conj. are extremely passive romantically. I have this aspect myself, but mine is in a cardinal sign. I would imagine someone who has it in a mutable sign would be even more passive. IP: Logged |
ScorpSag Knowflake Posts: 30 From: New York, NY USA Registered: Nov 2010
|
posted January 02, 2012 09:43 PM
ah sounds about right. thanks.wish i could change the tone of this relationship. Ive tried not contacting him at all a few times but THREE WEEKS could go by and he wont call. Ill give up and call him and he'll be all "I'll be over in 10 minutes". hahah. And since this happens a lot, we've really only gotten together about 10 times total in these almost 4 mos. We havent slept together and he doesnt really try. The times we've been close, there have been reasons (ehem) why I couldnt so I know he *wants* to. So it cant be that he just sticks around for the sex. lol lazy is right. if its in his inherent nature, i guess i wont have much luck turning the tables so that he chases me, huh? IP: Logged |
woah cakes Knowflake Posts: 705 From: Registered: Oct 2010
|
posted January 02, 2012 09:47 PM
i've been seeing a cap moon for about a year. his venus is also in the 12th. i think these two placements alone make a man quite reserved with showing feelings, even to the point of taking initiative. there's a cap moon thread somewhere on this page. it might help. i also dated a scorpio with libra rising and i had to initiate most things, or, at least, he always deferred to me. always. i found it confusing but some people might like that. good luck! IP: Logged |
ScorpSag Knowflake Posts: 30 From: New York, NY USA Registered: Nov 2010
|
posted January 02, 2012 09:47 PM
I like his chart too. Such a sweet guy and such a gentleman. Loves his momma too Heres MY chart. I know a little bit about synastry, but not much. What the HELL is going on with us? lol IP: Logged |
ScorpSag Knowflake Posts: 30 From: New York, NY USA Registered: Nov 2010
|
posted January 02, 2012 09:52 PM
quote: Originally posted by woah cakes: i've been seeing a cap moon for about a year. his venus is also in the 12th. i think these two placements alone make a man quite reserved with showing feelings, even to the point of taking initiative. there's a cap moon thread somewhere on this page. it might help. i also dated a scorpio with libra rising and i had to initiate most things, or, at least, he always deferred to me. always. i found it confusing but some people might like that. good luck!
I went through a Libra phase in my late teens/early 20's. For some reason that's all I attracted! They were all SO charming!. Will say whatever it takes to "get" you. So good with words and very romantic. I expected a Libra rising to at least have that "mask", ya know? IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 2038 From: Saturn-free H12 ;) Registered: Aug 2010
|
posted January 02, 2012 09:58 PM
Mask? Don't associate mask with rising sign!IP: Logged |
woah cakes Knowflake Posts: 705 From: Registered: Oct 2010
|
posted January 02, 2012 10:02 PM
yeah, i don't quite 'get' libras although they always seem to really like me and we usually get along well. maybe cuz i'm an air sign? anyway, my scorpio libra rising ex was not really charming (he also had a 7th house moon). i mean he was funny as hell and well liked but he was the OPPOSITE of flattering for the sake of being liked. it manifested more as a sort of indecisiveness and codependency tendency, and i always had to take the lead with everything and he always cared so much about my feelings but i basically never knew his, or he was afraid to state them because he was always concerned with how i would react. he is like this with everyone and i think it's cuz he was sort of a mediator for a lot of intense personalities while growing up. IP: Logged |
ScorpSag Knowflake Posts: 30 From: New York, NY USA Registered: Nov 2010
|
posted January 02, 2012 10:08 PM
he doesnt strike me as the "slutty" type. Though I do wonder if we havent slept together, hes gotta be gettin it somewhere else, right? lol I also dont get that hes the type that is in it for the chase, though I did think that the Libra rising would make him a little bit like that..IP: Logged |
ScorpSag Knowflake Posts: 30 From: New York, NY USA Registered: Nov 2010
|
posted January 02, 2012 10:16 PM
anyone have any insight on our synastry?IP: Logged |
starmoon Knowflake Posts: 44 From: Registered: Sep 2011
|
posted January 02, 2012 11:16 PM
just my 2 cents... when in love the moon sign can mean more than the sun sign in terms of showing affection. i am a cap moon and we are S-L-O-W, very very slow. we won't show affection or take initiative until we are 100% sure and ready. but he will make the moves eventually if he likes you, and cap moons are really good at showing affection in other ways before we show it emotionally or with overt moves - look for other signs of affection, like doing things for you, talking with you exclusively, etc. it can often take me over 6 months to just kiss on the cheek, and many months after that before i will even consider sleeping with someone. friends first is a real benefit with this moon/sun placement.IP: Logged |
ScorpSag Knowflake Posts: 30 From: New York, NY USA Registered: Nov 2010
|
posted January 02, 2012 11:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by starmoon: just my 2 cents... when in love the moon sign can mean more than the sun sign in terms of showing affection. i am a cap moon and we are S-L-O-W, very very slow. we won't show affection or take initiative until we are 100% sure and ready. but he will make the moves eventually if he likes you, and cap moons are really good at showing affection in other ways before we show it emotionally or with overt moves - look for other signs of affection, like doing things for you, talking with you exclusively, etc. it can often take me over 6 months to just kiss on the cheek, and many months after that before i will even consider sleeping with someone. friends first is a real benefit with this moon/sun placement.
he's very affectionate, just not in a hot sexual way. He has been but he doesnt initiate it. He's just very cuddly, holds my hands a lot, strokes my face and hair.....he doesnt try to take it further. He definitely gets aroused, though. He's done a lot of stuff for me around my apartment and seems to take pride in it. He cooked for me on our second date. He just doesnt seem like he ever wants to see me. When we;re together its wonderful but when apart, i get insecure. He has NEVER called me on his own. If I tell him, "call me later", he will do so...but after a date/sleepover he says hell call and like i said, three weeks will go by and he wont. Then as soon as i reach out, hes responsive and will come over or meet me at the drop of a hat. How do you not want to see the person youre dating?! IP: Logged |
mintgirl123 Knowflake Posts: 1525 From: Registered: Nov 2009
|
posted January 02, 2012 11:29 PM
Wow he sounds much too passive for me. I would have moved on. 3 weeks? If somebody is into you, you would expect them to make the effort to see you. IP: Logged |
ScorpSag Knowflake Posts: 30 From: New York, NY USA Registered: Nov 2010
|
posted January 02, 2012 11:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by mintgirl123: Wow he sounds much too passive for me. I would have moved on. 3 weeks? If somebody is into you, you would expect them to make the effort to see you.
lol no 3 months! yea, thats what i think, but i also wonder why someone would stick around if he didnt like me. Like I said, its very obvious that this guy has feelings for me when we're together. Thats why i dont get why he doesnt reach out on his own. maybe because he knows i will and hes lazy? i guess thats what im trying to figure out here. id also love to see how we go together based on our charts.. IP: Logged |
Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 2277 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
|
posted January 02, 2012 11:40 PM
quote: hes gotta be gettin it somewhere else
Actually he doesn't have to be! Not with Mars/Neptune in his chart. I have Cap Moon + Mars/Nept conjunct and as I said on another thread.. the earliest I've ever had sex with a man was my ex - 8 months into knowing him. I don't find 3 months long at all actually. If you feel like he is not for you - then it's your call to leave. I'm very particular anyway - so if someone doesn't seem like they are my type.. and especially if they are impatient or try to make things sexual sooner than I am interested in going there - this really bothers me.. & it doesn't usually work out. But I am female after all ^ so he could be different. IP: Logged |
ScorpSag Knowflake Posts: 30 From: New York, NY USA Registered: Nov 2010
|
posted January 02, 2012 11:49 PM
interesting BettyBoop. Ive been very afraid to push things sexually. Careful not to throw myself at him...Ive never had to lol. It feels weird to me. We came close once but I had my monthly visitor. TMI. sorry. Can you explain the Neptune/Mars thing? What does that mean, that they are not as inclined to make sure they get a healthy serving of sex frequently? Not as prone to play the field or roam? IP: Logged |
Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 2277 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
|
posted January 03, 2012 12:32 AM
quote: they are not as inclined to make sure they get a healthy serving of sex frequently
Exactly! Their sexual feelings (Mars) are completely tangled with their spiritual feelings (Neptune). It's all very intertwined... so they are not really all that physically raw. It's a bit like a Pisces Mars. I just noticed that actually you have Venus conjunct Neptune in natal - and this is conjunct his own Mars/Neptune. This is an interesting aspect to say the least. In synastry Mars/Venus can point to a strong sexual attraction, but in my experience it can also be a bit love/hate and prone to arguments. However - because your mutual Neptunes are involved.... on the one hand this is a good thing - since it will bring out the best in both of you and you'll likely treat each other with affection and sensitivity (so the Venus/Mars won't be as argumentative as it can normally get)... but on the other other hand... Neptune also dilutes the sexuality of Venus/Mars and makes your relationship more of a spiritual experience, rather than a physical one. It's even possible that you will never have sex. I have a question: Are you absolutely 100% sure that if he did want to make things physical - and he literally initiated sex tomorrow... you wouldn't back out? Basically, are you sure that he is the only one who is reluctant? Sometimes when Neptune is involved the dream feels better than the reality and there is a reluctance in both people to burst the dream bubble. IP: Logged |
Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 2277 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
|
posted January 03, 2012 12:40 AM
About not wanting to see you and not taking the initiative.. My only explanation would be that he is extremely insecure and that he thinks *everything* is a rejection. When Moon in Capricorn is badly aspected - like his... it can be a very insecure placement .. thinking "nobody likes me" and prone to depression.So even if you call him 20 times... He will still imagine that when you didn't call the 21st time - it means you don't like him anymore and you've got someone else. When 3 weeks went by and he didn't call.. I have a feeling he freaked out and thought you were with someone else. (very much a defeatist attitude... not the kind of guy who will 'fight' for you... much more likely to victimize himself like - 'she left me boo hoo for me') They have this weird thing about bothering people.. "Oh I couldn't call you... because I thought I might be bothering you... because why would you want to hang out with me - when you are waaaaay up there on your perfect pedestal and I'm waaaaay down here... " My ex had a Capricorn Moon - Mine is in Cap as well (but mine is nicely aspected for the most part).... My ex sometimes got it into his head that he shouldn't come and hang out with me and my friends - because he is obviously 'bothering' us... which was completely untrue... I was very surprised he felt this way. IP: Logged |
ScorpSag Knowflake Posts: 30 From: New York, NY USA Registered: Nov 2010
|
posted January 03, 2012 01:06 PM
Wow this is all so interesting and hits the nail right on the head. It also upsets me because it's just what I've been worried about. The not having sex and may never have sex thing seems to happen to me a lot with guys. Like theyre so sexually into me and then we bond and I think everything is heavenly and then they all of a sudden start to see me like a sister out of nowhere and lose attraction for me. Is this what could be going on? this is why I haven't slept with anyone for years! It needs to stop! this is why I'm afraid that he has someone else that he IS having sex with and just keeping me around for the spiritual fulfillment. Does this spiritual aspect apply to those who are not spiritual? He is NOT at all! I was reluctant to sleep with him the one time we came close but I think I stopped because I felt it was too early and didn't want to seem easy. He seemed o really like me so I took it slow, telling myself I wouldn't do anything until he initiates...and he hasnt. I I totally see what you mean about his inferiority complex in a sense. I sometimes feel that I am that way so I never consider that the other person could be feeling that way IP: Logged |