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athenegoddess
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posted January 10, 2012 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Something I have been pondering deeply, that those of us born with birth charts which show challenges that we were born into. For example challenges the child has to face because the parents and what not.. experience the hard stuff when younger, and as you get older you experience the amazing stuff; As long as you overcame the challenges correctly and strongly.

My Placements:
Sun Cancer 8
Moon Capricorn 8
Neptune Capricorn 8
Pluto Scorpio 9


Using myself as an example. I am the black sheep of my family. I am a Cancer Sun so as a child I loved my mother and held the role (i still do) of a mother as an extremely important role. As I started to get older around middle school years, she turned into a very cold woman. A woman that no child should ever have to deal with. I feel this is how my Moon/Neptune conjunction in Capricorn played out. having to deal with someone who should never be called a 'mother'. Okay I'm being a little dramatic. But she did abuse me emotionally. I always wondered why I had to born with a mother like that. My soul is kind and I know that in my previous incarnations I never dealt with this type of abuse before. I know because of my reaction to my mother. I was so disturbed by her and I remember telling her that she wasn't a very good mother and I would proceed to tell her why. We fought a lot and I took care of myself from age 14 by working. I never depended on my parents for money or anything. I grew into an extremely strong, persistent, and dedicated individual. I couldn't let myself be dragged down by my family dynamics. And the pressure was very difficult to deal with because all my friends had such amazing parents and I never brought my friends around my mother thats how bad she was. I ended up leaving my parents house at age 16.

So I noticed, that I dealt with Moon/Neptune conjunction in Capricorn. The Sabian is: 'An Angel Carrying a harp', when I was younger and most vulnerable. When children are young, they are most dependent on their parents unconditional love, and this was denied to me. So I had to make up for it by loving and valuing myself without the luxury most people have today. This was a difficult thing to do. I mean, how many people could have dealt with what I did? how many people would go on to make something of themselves when nothing was handed to them so freely? I didn't fall into a depression. I didn't feel sorry for myself. And now As an adult, I am finding that as I forgive my mother, my Moon/Neptune conjunction is extremely valuable. I am finding that the pain that once resulted from it, is now nothing but the most extreme love and understanding ever. Love because Neptune allows me to understand other dimensions and this results in the most pure and potent love for life and my existence. Understanding because CAPRICORN is the sign of the Dragon. Capricorn is the strongest sign in the zodiac and may deal with negative but ONLY because they were born to be strong and leaders. You cannot achieve any of those without having experience. Capricorn inside of me is a deep and wise being. I am grateful for my mother and my experiences because they were meant for me to grow and become the incredibly strong and wise person I am today.

So you see, the pendulum swings both ways; Good, Bad, high low. has this proved true for you and your badly placed planets as well?

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posted January 10, 2012 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
I mean, how many people could have dealt with what I did? how many people would go on to make something of themselves when nothing was handed to them so freely? I didn't fall into a depression. I didn't feel sorry for myself.

A lot more people than it seems, believe me. o:

That's quite a layout you got there...pendulum opposition and a dose of Pluto to only add to it...I'm just filling up space here, but I like that you overcame what difficulties were thrown at you! C:

How do you feel the Sun-Moon(Neptune) opposition plays out for you, like, personality wise?

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posted January 10, 2012 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice. I could tell there was something wrong from you from the way you interact with people here. You learned the hard way that to deal with the biggest pain you have only to turn to yourself. You are not alone in this experience though and I hope you get to "soften" up a bit and allow Neptune to show you that as well.

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posted January 10, 2012 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Something wrong with me?

I don't see it that way. I don't understand what you are referring to. Most people have difficult charts do they not? Even you have a difficult placement. The question is, did you overcome it yet or are you still learning. I don't like being judged.

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posted January 10, 2012 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for sharing! and I am proud of you, I mean that. Even though your childhood was tough, it is why you are strong today and now you are healing and learning about unconditional love and making it a habit in your life. Inspiring you had the strength to leave that environment early on and made it on your own.

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posted January 10, 2012 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Something wrong with me?

I don't see it that way. I don't understand what you are referring to. Most people have difficult charts do they not? Even you have a difficult placement. The question is, did you overcome it yet or are you still learning. I don't like being judged.



I think she is saying she understands you better now and even though you have come a long way to overcome this challenge she can see that it stills affects you to some extent and believe me is the same with me and my sun and moon squares....I have come a long way but still have some more work to do which makes sense as I am only 28 years old.

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posted January 11, 2012 01:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anglerfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm hoping that one day the Cappy reverse ageing thing comes true, because 5 planets in Cap is really sucky at times.

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posted January 11, 2012 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But, what I was saying..

If one experiences extreme unhappiness, they will also experience extreme happiness in the same lifetime. And if someone is only just happy, they will only experience just sadness.

What I'm saying is if the pendulum swings that far to the left, it is destined to swing that far to the right to balance things. It's one of the cosmic laws I was pondering; and a very interesting one. Because I am someone who goes by the notion that those who have much lose much. It's interesting to see it with Astrology.

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posted January 11, 2012 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
But, what I was saying..

If one experiences extreme unhappiness, they will also experience extreme happiness in the same lifetime. And if someone is only just happy, they will only experience just sadness.

What I'm saying is if the pendulum swings that far to the left, it is destined to swing that far to the right to balance things. It's one of the cosmic laws I was pondering; and a very interesting one. Because I am someone who goes by the notion that those who have much lose much. It's interesting to see it with Astrology.


Beautiful wonderful point...

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posted January 11, 2012 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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And if someone is only just happy

So,one can be really happy and just happy?
Happiness is an absolute,there are no stages of strengh or quality.

quote:
What I'm saying is if the pendulum swings that far to
the left, it is destined to swing that far to the right to
balance things. It's one of the cosmic laws I was
pondering; and a very interesting one. Because I am
someone who goes by the notion that those who have
much lose much.

Destined? Conditioned,it is law of physics.

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Because I am
someone who goes by the notion that those who have
much lose much.

Moral relativism.

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posted January 11, 2012 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are incorrect. You know hot and cold? There is no absolute hot or absolute cold. Everything is in degree.

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posted January 11, 2012 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hot/cold are qualities that can be measured.
There is an absolute,however it is -273 Celsius for cold,and hot number excapes me,at the moment.

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posted January 11, 2012 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All that she is trying to say I am gathering is that there cannot be good without bad, happiness without sadness, light without darkness, etc....she is referring to polarities when she talks about the pendulum swinging back and forth!

For example I cry monthly but I also laugh A LOOOT. So in this life I have experienced a lot of sorrow but also happiness. She is just expanding this concept to include past lives which not everyone beliefs in but I do and so does she and others.

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posted January 11, 2012 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Hot/cold are qualities that can be measured.
There is an absolute,however it is -273 Celsius for cold,and hot number excapes me,at the moment.

−273.15 celsius for "Absolute Zero" and 1.416785(71)×1032 kelvin for "Planck temperature" or "Absolute Hot"

Both are unable to be achieved so far (though we can create conditions very close to Absolute Zero).

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posted January 12, 2012 03:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks,Xiiro
You know,I am Cappy Moon Virgo Merc,and you are the other way We understand each other well

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posted January 12, 2012 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are no absolutes in life. Everything is constantly moving and changing. Anyone who believes otherwise isn't very wise.

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posted January 12, 2012 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Absolute doesn't exclude changing.

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posted January 12, 2012 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes it does...!
You are saying there is no such thing as just happy, really happy, or extremely happy. In truth nobody experiences the same level of happiness as another does. It depends on their life experiences and what they went through. You can argue with me all day, but I got this teaching from a book about hermes' teachings so you are wasting your time.

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posted January 12, 2012 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No,I am saying one can be happy. Punto. Not really happy or happier. Sentiment in itself is absolute... Of course there are different reasons for being happy,but you can't say one person's happiness is greater than next person.

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posted January 12, 2012 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes there are different levels of happiness and my original post proves why, if you don't believe then carry on.

There are also different levels of suffering. Do your self a favor and think. Most people didn't suffer the way I did, so most wont experience the happiness I do either.

Seems like you are just trying to fight about something.. you seem so sure about. But you aren't.

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posted January 12, 2012 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So,one's suffering is greater than somebody's else...Oh,the moral superiority!

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posted January 12, 2012 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes. There are different levels. You are so annoying. You don't understand what I'm saying so please go find out. I have a very small tolerance level for ignorance. That's my weakness. I hate repeating myself, and constantly trying to make someone understand who doesn't have the capability.

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posted January 12, 2012 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You just don't know how to reply/converse,do you?

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posted January 12, 2012 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I only speak and share things with people who have reached that level of understanding. You have not so it's like talking to a dead person. Frankly I don't have time to speak with people who haven't reached my level of consciousness. I have tried before, but it's a mistake and one thing I have learned is to never cast your pearls before swine. If they want to learn and are ready, then they deserve to be listened to. But you are acting like you know a truth when it is pure nonsense. I don't have time for it and like I said I get mean and inpatient when I deal with people like you.

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posted January 12, 2012 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Student must prove their worth?
Moral superiorty,again.
Level of consciousness? How come there are such gaping holes in that consciousness?

Oh,Saturn,help me...

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