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amelia28
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posted January 12, 2012 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I want to change title to 8th house ruler/5th house ruler and pluto:

How are you sexually?? based on house placements only of 8th house ruler planet, 5th house ruler and pluto.

For example:

My 8th house ruler is moon in pisces conjunct IC in the 4th square neptune quintile chiron and my mars is my 5th house ruler and is in the 9th and pluto in the 11th.

I like sex at home in comfy bed (8th ruler in the 4th) but also am open to outdoors, in the car etc I think bc of my mars in the 9th. I need to feel whoever I am with sexually I have a deep connection with and is my friend above all if not I will lose interest quickly and at my age won't even bother to pursue something sexual without feeling like the guy is my friend and cares about me and I have pluto in the 11th.

My mars in leo trine 5th and mars in leo sextile pluto and trine neptune makes me comfortable with raw passionate sex while simultaneously approaching it as way to transcend and open up my chackas bc of moon in pisces square neptune in the first and mars trine neptune.

My sex drive adapts to who I am with but I would consider it healthy, 3 times a week sounds nice but if with someone that likes it every day I am happy with that too. I guess this is a combo of mars in pisces (mutable) with mars in leo (fixed). My mars in leo says 3 times a week at least to keep me very happy and my moon in pisces is like but more is fine too or less but not too much more or too much less bc then I get annoyed feeling the other is not cerebral enough or feeling my needs are not been met.

Tell me how the ruler of your 8th expresses itself and if you want also include mars and pluto in the mix .

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posted January 12, 2012 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminisquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have pluto in the 5th house
Sex is just lovely. My taurus moon makes be bit of a hedonist.
I never realized how many people are uncomfortable with it. Its usually the most difficult part of a relationship for some people. I think it would be interesting to be a sex therapist.
Usually its just natural for me, I go with the flow. In relationships I think sex is very important. I mean its like healing our partner.

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posted January 12, 2012 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sex is just lovely. -geminisquared

LOL

I mean its like healing our partner. -geminisquared

That is beautiful, like how you see it. Very nice. I think that is how it should be approached.

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posted January 12, 2012 09:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tautomer4314     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My 8th house ruler is Taurus. Thus the ruler is venus, which is in my 8th house.

I am still a virgin. In my minds eye though I want sex to me a mindfuck in many ways. One of my strongest sexual fantisies would be for me and my long-term partner (whoever he happens to be) to get lost in the woods, take magic mushrooms, and slowly lose our minds together, and have wild sex in the woods as we go insane together. Of course, it's going to take some time before I can get to the point where I am comfortable to be able to do that.

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posted January 12, 2012 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for downtomars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mercury rules both my 5th and 8th house. Mercury in Leo in the 7th conjunct Sun, Venus and Jupiter, square Uranus and trine Neptune. My Mars is in the 5th (Gemini) trine Pluto in the 8th (Libra).

I am INSATIABLE! At least twice a day is good for me. Early mornings especially (very early, just before daybreak, before the morning breath is in full effect - Saturn in Virgo speaking). Few past boyfriends have completely satisfied me both sexually and sensually - Leo and Cap Suns tend to be the best for me. A Leo ex has Mars in Leo conjunct my Venus in Leo and his Virgo Venus squared my Gemini Mars so that was nice .

That is another thing, the sensual/sexual balance is huge with me. I can't have quickies because they are just so unfulfilling and it doesn't help matters any, I will still just want more after that, and I'll get all antsy and whiny. So no coat checks or bathroom stalls for me, there has to be a lot more going on! Actually, when it comes down to it, I lean slightly more toward the sensual side. Just meaning I'd rather be with a make out artist who is more "low key" during the act than someone who is wildly aggressive but barely kissed me and didn't caress me, gently pull my hair, stroke my face (geez, it's been a while). I guess because of the 5th/8th ruler in the 7th, I'd rather feel loved than ****ed.

Of course a balance is ideal, and I have had that (the Leo!), but I have dated the sensual/sexual extremes (funny enough, The Sensualist is a Taurus and the Sexualist, Scorpio!) and, yeah, sensual over sexual...

Okay, I just noticed that I said or alluded to "balance" a bunch of times too. Packed 7th house, Venus on the DC, Moon conjunct Pluto in Libra...

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posted January 13, 2012 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting downtomars...it sounds like you like sex for bonding and pleasure at the same time but inside a relationship and lots of it with an emphasis on balance in the give and take, stamina and with a big focus on sensuality and taking it slow.

Sounds really nice.

I guess my aries in the 5th likes quickies. I dont like them all the time but I think can be fun sometimes . Is like my aries in the 5th trine mars sometimes builds up excitement quickly so I can come without a very long session.

Do you think your need for a lot of sensuality and taking it slow is a mercury thing? or would you say is an air thing? or specifically a gemini thing or virgo thing? Curious

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posted January 13, 2012 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by tautomer4314:
I want sex to me a mindfuck in many ways. One of my strongest sexual fantisies would be for me and my long-term partner (whoever he happens to be) to get lost in the woods, take magic mushrooms, and slowly lose our minds together, and have wild sex in the woods as we go insane together.


Sounds fun, primal, exciting and romantic at the same time! I hope you find him soon .

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posted January 13, 2012 12:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for frankie2912     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
8th house ruler - Mercury, in Sagittarius, in 2nd house, conjunct Sun & Neptune, square Mars and Jupiter.

5th house ruler - Neptune, in Capricorn, in 2nd house,conjunct Sun and Mercury and sextile Pluto.

Mars in Pisces, in 5th house, square Mercury, Uranus, conjunct Jupiter, trine Venus.

Pluto in Scorpio, in 12th house closely conjunct ASC, sextile Sun.

Ummm....I like the forbidden, taboo, spontaneous sexual experiences. I like the idea of getting caught..so outside is a good place to do it. I am really sexually open when I travel (must be my Sagittarius 2nd house, which is where both my 8th and 5th house rulers are) and I LOOOOOve foreign men..

I don't have to be in a comfy place, it can be on a sandy beach, on the floor, etc..and I like to be submissive and 'taken over' (Mars in Pisces?)

I like sex on drugs (5th house ruler Neptune in Capricorn?), I like risky sexual situations, I hate planning it and I have a thing for being 'the other woman'.

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posted January 13, 2012 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for downtomars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It seems a little odd because when you think Mercury, you think fast, quick. I am guessing that it is because it is in Leo (romantic) and in the 7th (relarionships), that flavors it quite a bit. I was just thinking that is is why I am probably not into the bathroom stall thing, Leos and Libras both like pleasant, if not posh, surroundings. It doesn't have to be in a palace but a big bed is nice.

I like the man to be Mercury-infused though (slim, light hair and eyes, good hands, good with his hands)...

ETA: Sandy beaches and floors can be quite comfortable sometimes though Frankie!

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posted January 13, 2012 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by downtomars:

I like the man to be Mercury-infused though (slim, light hair and eyes, good hands, good with his hands)...




*Sigh* awwwwwwww that sounds so sexy.

I agree that leo and libra like nice surroundings that match the mood for the scene that is going to happen. Candles, organized room, nice smells, pretty comfy bed etc..

but the slow and sensual, taking your time I think is also a libra thing but perhaps is an air thing actually in general.

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posted January 13, 2012 12:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminisquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uranus and neptune are in the 7th house and of course they conjunct. My moon in taurus trines both of them so it makes be a bit romantic, but at the same time I always have crazy sexual fantasies. Like I've done it on my ex's parents bed. I've fooled around in school bathrooms. I like being dominated too, only by men. Usually the guys I'm with are always taller or stronger then me. I'm usually romantic with women. I'm always very respectful with them. Its weird. like I think maybe with most guys were scared to hurt them? This is probably playing into how I was raised too :P I've only ever been in 1 serious relationship... Most of the others were with friends, or idk friends with benefits maybe My venus is in gemini and my mars is in aries. But I'm so envious of other people with their beautiful relationships.

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posted January 13, 2012 01:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Frankie

I am thinking pluto in the 12th close to ascendent is what makes you like maybe getting caught and been the other woman, your pluto in the 12th is comfy with secrets and secret affairs and pluto likes excitement .... hahaha....

Then sex and drugs, well ruler of your fifth is neptune and you have mars in pisces in the fifth.

and then sag in second where the ruler of your 5th and 8th fall explain why you love the sex when you travel and foreign men.

Thinking that you are going to get caught does add to the excitement as long as it doesn't actually happen LOL

bc I have been in situations like that twice and is fun but it depends who is going to do the catching...a friend, family member or husband or wife??

If is a friend or family member you are good but if is your husband, he might kill the guy and if is his wife you might get your ass kicked! Snap! so for safety reasons I avoid the latter as much as possible .

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posted January 13, 2012 01:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Geminisquared:
Uranus and neptune are in the 7th house and of course they conjunct. My moon in taurus trines both of them so it makes be a bit romantic, but at the same time I always have crazy sexual fantasies. Like I've done it on my ex's parents bed. I've fooled around in school bathrooms. I like being dominated too, only by men. Usually the guys I'm with are always taller or stronger then me. I'm usually romantic with women. I'm always very respectful with them. Its weird. like I think maybe with most guys were scared to hurt them? This is probably playing into how I was raised too :P I've only ever been in 1 serious relationship... Most of the others were with friends, or idk friends with benefits maybe My venus is in gemini and my mars is in aries. But I'm so envious of other people with their beautiful relationships.

Dont be jealous relationships are hard work and you will find someone and have that..you are super young! enjoy been single and you will meet the right person when you least think! Surpriseee! .

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posted January 13, 2012 01:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
8th House Ruler:
Pluto in Libra 6th House
Conjunct NN
Conjunct DSC
Semi-Sextile Uranus in Scorpio 7th
Sextile Neptune 8th House (also Semi-Sextile Uranus)

I like sex to be intense, passionate (Pluto), beautiful, fair (Libra), conscientiousness, and healthy (6th House). In fact, I feel fulfilled when doing a good job exploring and attending to the needs of my partner (6th House sum'more). When I choose to have sex it is to uncover and exchange a deeper understanding of our unique beauty, and ultimately synthesize those forces into something new(Pluto in Libra conjunct NN/DSC). Sex is a completely psychic experience and if done correctly, will lead to complete loss of identity for me; when done incorrectly leaves me emotionally retarded (Pluto sextile Neptune). Their feelings become my feelings, their thoughts, my thoughts. The synthesis becomes liquid light, churning language-less poetry, chanted until our minds touch that big-sky mind of delicious insanity (Neptune/Pluto/Uranus party). And once filled, we trickle into the smallest of each other's cracks (More of that damned Pluto energy). Ultimately, sex always changes me, because it demands a deep exposure from me. I will even take on my partner's issues and have to spend time processing them as if they were my own, if the sex is casual (Pluto/Neptune). My Mars is not a fan of it, being Leo ind interested in lots of random primal humping, but it's true, in order to enjoy sex I need there to be an emotionally productive connection. Otherwise the aftermath is just not worth it (Pluto conj NN 6th House).


5th House Ruler:
Sun Sag 8th House
Conjunct Neptune
Trine Mars in Leo 5th House
Trine SN conjunct Eris in Aries 12th House (opposed Pluto)

I consider my self a sexual being who loves to flirt and play with sexual energy. Part of my mind actually can't understand why it is taboo to just interact sexually when those feelings arise (though the more rational aspects of my mind have those kinds of ideas on lock down). I see very little taboo in sexuality and am not afraid to get into kinky stuff, as long as it is safe and people are having fun. Whatever we are doing though, it should be an adventure which leaves a lasting impression (Sun Sag 8th House). When people are turned on, I can feel it like emotional radiation from a fire. In a sense it is hard for me to hold back from being caught in other people's sexual feelings. When engaged in sex, I feel my partner's feelings inside my self, so I know where to touch, what feels good, what needs more attention, and how far to push or tease (Conjunct Neptune in the 8th). I can have sex for a long time and with little need for breaks, I pride my self on helping my partner achieve memorable orgasms though. I tend to therefor, favor several intense sexual sessions over long drawn out productions of less intense sensations (Trine Mars in Leo 5th and Eris in Aries 12th House). I love energy exchange and "topping from the bottom" or taking on a submissive role while maintaining a psychological or hidden dominance (Eris in the 12th House). In fact sexual prowess is a talent I never learned, I just kind of knew the right things to do, the right way to listen, and the right time to duck (sorry that was crude). Because of that (and a few other indicators), I have suspected one of my past lives to have been that of a prostitute (Trine SN). Sex can bring up deep memories of suffering in me, which are not attributed to any experience I have had in this lifetime. When I was younger, I would use sex as a way to show appreciation or express my depth of affection. Sometimes I would just use it to say thanks, all of which resulted in bad emotional experiences for me (SN/Eris opposed Pluto).

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posted January 13, 2012 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:
but if with someone that likes it every day I am happy with that too.

..and everynight too?

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I guess because of the 5th/8th ruler in the 7th, I'd rather feel loved than ****ed.

+1

i dunno how to do that house rulers with a planet yet. but my 8th and 5th are empty. just asteroids juno, nn, chiron in h8. lilith in h5.

ruler of my gemini 8th is mercury. that's in h6. ruler of my pisces h5 is neptune. they both aspect pluto in h1. mars is there too.

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posted January 13, 2012 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haven't any planets in the 8th house and it is ruled by Aries. My 5th house is ruled by Cap and Lilith resides there. Any ideas on this placements?

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posted January 13, 2012 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
8th house ruler:
Moon in Aquarius in 2nd house:
exactly quinkunx retro Saturn (2nd house ruler) in Cancer in 8th


5th house ruler:
Venus in Capricorn in 1st house
squares Pluto (11th and 12th house ruler) in Libra on the MC


Pluto in Libra in 10th house, ruling 11th and 12th:
squaring Venus in Cappy in 1st (ruler of 5th, 6th and MC)
sextile Mars in Sag in 12th (ruler of IC)
sextile Neptune in Sag in 1st (ruler of 3rd)
quinkunx Jupiter in Pisces in 3rd (ruelr of ASC)

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posted January 13, 2012 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amurr:
I haven't any planets in the 8th house and it is ruled by Aries. My 5th house is ruled by Cap and Lilith resides there. Any ideas on this placements?

you can read lilith in leo to for h5 lilith..

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posted January 13, 2012 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ Sand LOL

Everyday and Everynight works too....what I have noticed is I dont like it when a guy wants to do it more than twice in a row.....is like geez lets wait several hours.....but once in the morning and once at night plenty of hours have passed in between

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posted January 13, 2012 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sand,

Ruler of your fifth is Neptune and Ruler of your 8th is mercury.

Edit to add:
Your 8th house ruler and 5th house ruler Trine.

I see your venus is packed with aspects including to neptune and your mars only has one aspect so I would think that love is very important for you when it comes to sex and so is sensuality and taking your time...you and downtomars would get eachother... LOL I am just kidding

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posted January 13, 2012 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amurr:
I haven't any planets in the 8th house and it is ruled by Aries. My 5th house is ruled by Cap and Lilith resides there. Any ideas on this placements?

You would look at the aspects mars makes and saturn makes....and in what house they fall..

For example ruler of my 5th is aries so I check to see my mars aspects for sex without strings attached and you will find mars conjunct venus and my venus rules the 11th, mars sextile pluto and pluto rules my 12th and mars trine neptune....mars trine neptune still approaches no strings attached sex with love so I dont really do casual sex especially since my mars conjuncts venus which rules my 11th so no strings attached sex would have to be with someone who cares about me as a friend and lover, not a one night stand and my mars sextile pluto which rules the 12th would hint to occasional secret love affairs or at least the potential for it...

My moon rules my 8th so that points out to how I am sexually for bonding purposes and moon is part of two tsquares and is in pisces conjunct IC.....I get really attached...Its hard to separate sex and love for me, I surrender emotionally with sex and my moon in pisces sees it as a way to transcend to another dimension and my moon quintile chiron sees it also as vehicle for healing.

Moon ruler of my 8th is part of two tsquares and the 7th and 1st are mediators for these tsquares as well as venus/mars conjunct in the 9th hahaha

Venus rules my 11th and mars my 5th...so foreign friends and lovers, relationships and myself are all mediators of my tsquares as well as higher learning and travel.

Edit to add:

My mars rules my fifth but co rules my 12th in scorpio conjuncting venus which rules my 11th and 6th house...and my moon/sun midpoint mediator of sun/moon/neptune tsquare conjunct neptune and trine venus and mars.


so my mediators can be directed towards serving others through social causes involving counseling ideally and by having children or one of social causes should involve children and or animals but if not it will be directed towards friend/lovers/affairs.

So I need to get involve in social causes involving children, animals while simultaneously do counseling for general population and then my outlet will be a good productive one. I have been taking care of a sick puppy and that has kept me focused on that proving my mediator theory correct, also this board as helped too as a mediator bc it is tool to help others while also helping myself. Once I can practice counseling that will be a great mediator as well.....so I am on the right track but not nearly were I want to be. But now I know when I get back to Colorado to get involve with helping pets and children. It will be cool if at some point in my life I start an organization of this. My mediators involve been charitable if I dont give I feel empty bc they are my mediators for my tsquares (1st, 7th, 11th, 5th, 6th, 9th, 12th are all involved in my mediators). Well I feel like I have a sense of direction now! This board really helps me brainstorm .

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posted January 13, 2012 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sand:
you can read lilith in leo to for h5 lilith..

Is that because house 5 naural ruler is Leo? I read lilith in Cap, is that wrong?
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posted January 13, 2012 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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@ Sand LOL

Everyday and Everynight works too....what I have noticed is I dont like it when a guy wants to do it more than twice in a row.....is like geez lets wait several hours.....but once in the morning and once at night plenty of hours have passed in between


a lot of musketeers would be happy to hear that!

quote:
Your 8th house ruler and 5th house ruler Trine.

ahh didn't notice that. thanks!

quote:
I see your venus is packed with aspects including to neptune and your mars only has one aspect so I would think that love is very important for you when it comes to sex and so is sensuality and taking your time...you and downtomars would get eachother... LOL I am just kidding

yep that is pretty much my M.O. hehe!


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posted January 13, 2012 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amurr:
Is that because house 5 naural ruler is Leo? I read lilith in Cap, is that wrong?
Thanks


yup! some readings include them together but i the site won't allow me to copy the text, and yeah cap would be wrong.

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posted January 13, 2012 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BeholdAstarte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by tautomer4314:
My 8th house ruler is Taurus. Thus the ruler is venus, which is in my 8th house.

I am still a virgin. In my minds eye though I want sex to me a mindfuck in many ways. One of my strongest sexual fantisies would be for me and my long-term partner (whoever he happens to be) to get lost in the woods, take magic mushrooms, and slowly lose our minds together, and have wild sex in the woods as we go insane together. Of course, it's going to take some time before I can get to the point where I am comfortable to be able to do that.


hahaha hey, i really like your fantasy. if we were lovers i would do that with you.

ive made love on psychedelics and its deffinately an adventure!

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