posted January 17, 2012 12:53 AM            

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I became insane, with long
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If the truth is relative then there's nothing that is really true.

posted January 17, 2012 12:59 AM            

I'm a Taurus, but I am not much like a taurus at all.

posted January 17, 2012 01:02 AM            

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Originally posted by L0veLess:
Everytime i've ever read about capricorn's i never felt connected to it. I dont feel like one at all hardly. I know i get along with other caps pretty smooth though, but personality wise i'm not really like one. So then what am I? Why would i feel that way? And i feel like everyone else i know pretty much fits their sign regardless of other placements, only sometimes do i come across those that don't really match theirs like i don't. Maybe being a capricorn has too much to live up to.

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posted January 17, 2012 01:16 AM            

and yes please xiiro i'd appreciate it

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I became insane, with long
intervals of horrible
sanity.-Poe

If the truth is relative then there's nothing that is really true.

posted January 17, 2012 01:47 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
oh believe me cusps exist,my brother is born on the last degree of leo,and most of his personal planets are in leo but they were also on the cusp,he literally has no planets in virgo,but yet he is a total virgo,he is all about being practical and saving money,he is obsessed with being healthy,he tends to be reserved,and he has that legendary virgo criticism,he has some leo traits to be sure but that is to be expected since he has 5 planets in leo,all on the last couple degrees of leo,but he is a total viro,if cusps dont exist how do you explain that? haha sorry if i sound dogmatic,it just annoys me that 99 percent of astrologers deny cusps when i see them in people i know,you admitted capricorn doesnt match you and you were born on the last day,do you know your time of birth,perhaps the sun was already in aquarius,depending on the year,the sun can enter a new sign at different times,thats why the birthtime is so important

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posted January 17, 2012 01:53 AM            

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Originally posted by frankie2912:
im a Capricorn sun and i can relate..i never felt like i matched the description of a Capricorn.

i've always felt more connected with my Moon & Rising signs (Sag & Scorp)

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posted January 17, 2012 01:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
I'm constantly working on something and not having much "fun" because well.... actually work=fun for me lol - so I definitely fit the description.. I have a Cap Moon.

Maybe it's true that people relate more to their Moon Sign interpretation.

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posted January 17, 2012 02:20 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
haha ok well what houses are the sun and moon in? that can explain alot and what was your ascendant and moon? and what signs are your mercury,venus, and mars? these are all very important

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posted January 17, 2012 02:22 AM            

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Originally posted by L0veLess:
hmm
ya im born the last day of cap, but i don't believe in cusp signs like being both or whatever. I'm not sure which sign i most identify with, I mean i'd have to say cap because according to my date i am one and its what i've known for so long that its ingrained in my head that im a cap haha. I feel like a little bit of everything i suppose.

and yes please xiiro i'd appreciate it
http://i.imgur.com/zpwib.png

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Wow, perhaps I should be taking a stab at helping you locate not-Capricorn energy LOL.

The majority of your chart is in Capricorn, but you are experiencing Capricorn's energy from all possible angles. You actually have a theme in your chart regarding, "seeing things from all perspectives", or getting a 360 degree view of your experiences.

Your ASC in Libra allows you to experience the houses from their opposing signs.

In the 2nd House (Taurus's house), you have Moon (Taurus's planet of exaltation) in Scorpio, conjunct Pluto.

In the 3rd House (Gemini's house), you have Mars in Sagittarius, opposed Jupiter (Sagittarius's ruling planet) in Cancer (Jupiter's sign of exaltation), in the 9th House (Sagittarius's House).

Finally, your Jupiter in Cancer (the "best" planet for Cancer's energy) is conjunct MC and opposing a stellium of the rest of your chart in Capricorn, all in the 4th House (Cancer's House)

Your stellium is made up of:
IC - Your emotional and psychological foundations/your psychological basement
Uranus - Your mode of change, uniqueness, and idealism
Mercury - Your thinking and communicating processes
Neptune - Your mode of facing and comprehending the unconditional
Saturn - Your reality's structuring force
Venus - Your values and mode of appreciation
Sun - Your individuality and mode of identity.

Here is how I would picture your Capricorn energy to manifest:

From a young age you would have been expected to (or would have felt obligated to) "grow up". Perhaps the death or abandonment from a mother figure, quickly brushed over, could have left you with deep internalized feelings and an idealized view of maternal and feminine energy (an energy which may also be difficult to locate in your self). You have an active external projection, but your internal space is like a vast echoing cavern. What seems light on the outside is very deep, serious, and difficult to grasp on the inside. In a sense, you may feel as though what you project externally is a fabrication or at least, can not adequately convey your internal state. Because of this, people grow to rely on your external projections as being "you", without gaining access to the person you are within.

Part of this is because you may feel flawed. climsy, slow, or damaged inside and the task of communicating that externally can seem shameful or difficult to convey with the same intensity it is experienced internally. When you speak from your external persona, you can be witty, wry, warm, and charming, but when you communicate from your core, it takes a long time to compile the data and communicate it in a sufficient or satisfying way. In this way you could reach a point of struggle. On one hand you can see that your projections keep others out, but on the other hand you may not totally be sure how to let someone in, where "in" is, who exactly is the owner of this "in" place, or "perhaps I am just telling my self it is worse than it actually is".

Capricorn energy as an archetype functions like a tank. There is a hard and well engineered external mechanism, and a soft, squishy, internal directing force. Sagittarius discovers that all objects are just the result of the inherent potential at the core of being. Capricorn arises with a highly sensitive and self-aware core potential, who must build a protective mechanism in order to slow down and utilize all the data being experienced. Capricorn then develops the intuitive ability to view their external shell through the eyes of others. More simply put, Capricorn perpetually sees their self through other people's eyes and utilizes this link to refine their output. This is why Capricorn is great at business, they are equipped to know exactly what others want and how to make that happen with the resources available.

One of Capricorn's most noticible "identifying feelings" is a feeling of seperation between the outside and the inside, a delay between what is experienced internally and what is projected externally.

posted January 17, 2012 02:25 AM            

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Originally posted by tautomer4314:
I think there are two factors at work here for why you don't feel completed connected to capricorn. You have a stellium of capricorn. However, it's in the 4th house, which is ruled by cancer, which is the opposite of capricorn. That could create a bit of an odd feeling between that. You also have moon conjunct pluto in scorpio which is a pretty strong aspect and can flavor many things.

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ya i noticed how most of the things in my chart is opposite. like my moon is in scorp in 2nd house but in the house of taurus etc... So does this mean im like a cancer? hm I don't even know many cancers and when i meet them theres like a weirdness haha

posted January 17, 2012 02:27 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
my bad i didnt see where you posted your chart,i just looked,and the first thing i noticed right away is that almost all your planets are clustered in the 4th house which should give alot of cancer characteristics,and moon in scorpio in the 2nd,and libra ascendant,and your sun is conjunct venus giving you another libra like influence,all that is a strange combination cappy,cancer,libra,and scorpio,but the biggest is the cappy influence and the cancer influence,which are polar opposites,no wonder you dont identify with cap,does cancer fit you any? or libra

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posted January 17, 2012 03:00 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
haha your chart is very confusing to interprate,haha not all libras can sing,do you tend to want to be in a relationship? do you avoid conflict?is keeping harmony important to you?do you have any artistic abilities?

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posted January 17, 2012 03:10 AM            

I have only my Sun Sign in Capricorn and I feel very much like a Cap….. But then again Saturn makes some strong aspects in my chart and it conjunct my MC.

But your whole chart is practically one huge Cap stellium, with a bit of Scorpio thrown in… a singleton Mars in Sag, and a Jupiter in Cancer….

Okay I have some theories….

One is what I like to think of as the ’Rebel Against the Stellium’ theory… sometimes when people have soooo much of one sign in their charts…. It’s like they get irritated with it and rebel…. Like they go into a state of denial about that side of themselves and try to be anything but…

I seem to remember one poster whose chart was LOADED with fire signs from a long time back and they claimed to be SHY, and felt that being shy was a big part of them. I remember thinking ’really’?

Now, I don’t believe in cusps….(or do I? More on that below) but one possibility is your Sun at 29 Capricorn… when a planet is at the end of a sign sometimes we can feel as if we are almost ’done’ with that energy, and we’ re ready leap towards the next region of experience….perhaps you feel a bit ‘meh’ about the whole Capricorn thing as far as life purpose (the Sun) is concerned…

Another thing to keep in mind is that the angular diameter of the Sun or the Moon is or just over 1/2 degree, which is 30 minutes of arc. When astrologers calculate the position of the Sun and the Moon….. They do so from the center of point of each body…. Meaning they use the center point of the Sun and the Moon to calculate exactly where to place them by degree, minutes and seconds in the zodiac….

However since the Sun and the Moon both span 30 minutes….that means that in reality they do extend 15 minutes on either side of this center point…

Now this only counts for the luminaries…..The Sun and the Moon…. Because they appear so large from our stand point they are like plates….they have a diameter that is obvious to our eyes…..however the rest of the planets and the fixed stars are more like pin points…. The are so small from our perspective that their zodiacal position from any point of earth is exact to the second.

What this means is that planets and fixed stars don’t have a cusp…. But with the Sun and the Moon potentially the tip of it can be sticking out into the next sign….

L0veLess,

Your Sun is at 29 degrees and 55 minuets of Capricorn….and technically the diameter of your Sun extends 15 minuets on either side of this… from 29’40 Capricorn to 00’10 Aquarius… although the centre of your Sun is still rooted in Capricorn and over half of the Sun’s diameter is in that sign.

So with the Sun and the Moon alone there is some possibility of a cusp influence, if the Sun or the Moon are later than 29’45 in a sign …..(although this is not so with the planets)…. Because part of the diameter of the luminary in question sticks out across the dividing line between the signs…

So tell me do you feel a touch of Aqua in your nature….

Also, I’m curious….how do you define yourself…. You have told us who you feel you are not….. But how would you describe yourself in your own words as person…. What are your outstanding personality characteristics?….

posted January 17, 2012 03:53 AM            

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Originally posted by L0veLess:
hmm
ya im born the last day of cap, but i don't believe in cusp signs like being both or whatever. I'm not sure which sign i most identify with, I mean i'd have to say cap because according to my date i am one and its what i've known for so long that its ingrained in my head that im a cap haha. I feel like a little bit of everything i suppose.

and yes please xiiro i'd appreciate it
http://i.imgur.com/zpwib.png

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I do not believe in cusps, either.

You are either one sign or another. You cannot be two signs. Linda Goodman too was against the notion of cusps.

If one feels "cuspy", it's for other reasons. It's possible to actually be the other sign, to have other planets or points in the other sign, to be raised by/influenced by people of the other sign, or to simply be told about cusps and buy into it. I have known PLENTY of "cuspy" people who act NOTHING like the sign to which they are close to being. So, I don't believe in them, either, and they honestly kind of annoy me at times, but I don't want to be rude, so I will leave it at that.

posted January 17, 2012 04:26 AM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
This is funny, cos you have 6 planets in Capricorn…. Hmmmm…. so do you really feel you are not level headed and responsible? ......

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