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Topic: Do Pisces Ascendants females attract unwanted attention?
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mintgirl123 Knowflake Posts: 1764 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted January 21, 2012 05:04 PM
Do people actually find getting hit on flattering? I mean when I get cat called I feel kinda dirty and think they're sleazebags. And even if somebody hits on me, it makes me feel real uncomfortable.See it's only flattering if the person who hits on you is hot and does it in a genuine kind of way. Haha what can I say?
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YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 1411 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted January 21, 2012 05:13 PM
@amelia,In all honesty, I would have given anyone on the street (well within reason) a ride around a couple of blocks as amusement. Its a joy riding in a car of that caliber and I know it attracts attention, but to suggest anything else than a car ride was just ludicrous. Of course, unfortunately, "most men" would have used the car as an extension of their you know what and the deal would have been sealed.... but I'm not "most men." I don't care if whoever cat calls is hot or whatever. Its irritating and unwarranted. IP: Logged |
mintgirl123 Knowflake Posts: 1764 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted January 21, 2012 05:18 PM
I never said sb hot that cat calls is flattering to me. I said somebody who hits on me in a genuine kind of way (ya know, sb who approaches me with a genuine smile and confidence 'hey, how's it going? My name's ____' and you know makes ok convo after is acceptable if they're hot lol.I don't consider cat calling being 'hit on' I consider that idiot behaviour. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 1411 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted January 21, 2012 05:29 PM
@mintgirlYes I understand. Incidently, my comments weren't in response to you post, so sorry if you got that impression  IP: Logged |
Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 2388 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 21, 2012 05:39 PM
quote: If you are female and have a pulse, you have probably attracted unwanted attention at some point in your life.
quote: This is what most women deal with. Nothing out of the ordinary really.
quote: Pretty sure any woman gets unwanted attention regardless of ascendant.
quote: It happens to most (if not all) women at one point or another, and to many it happens repeatedly. Not all of em have Pisces rising.
I agree to all of the above posts. The only exceptions might be women who have a serious disability (e.g. using a wheelchair) and women who are elderly (70+). But this is not set in stone either.... as I could also see it happening to those groups of women.
quote: I get people smiling and waving at me on the bus or train.
I thought this was pretty common as well? People smile at each other all the time. Waving is a bit stranger but maybe they had you confused with someone.
quote: It isn't just women that get unwarranted gawking.
It happens much less frequently to men, so it’s kind of trivial. Also - the discrepancy ^ is most likely due to hormonal differences. quote: I think they just do it for a laugh..it also doesn't have the worst success ratio, iygwim.
I agree in general... I usually ignore it and I don't particularly care. I only get frustrated, if they are blatantly rude. For example I had a group of guys yell out that I have a nice rack.. and after I ignored them one of them said: "What's the matter? Don't you have a voice box?" When it starts to seem like harassment - rather than simply doing it for a 'laugh' - then I take issue with it.
quote: Some women take it as a compliment, and that's their prerogative; but a lot of women really don't.
Some women don’t take it as either a compliment or an insult. As far as I'm concerned they could be a blank wall.
quote: There are correlations between sexual attractiveness/youth and catcalls. Young women will get them more than old ones. A girl wearing tight clothes will get more hollas than one in sweatpants. And the environment matters too: certain cultures find catcalls more acceptable, they are unacceptable in others.
Hmmmm Yes and No… I think these factors are relevant in ‘frequency’.. A girl who is young and particularly attractive and who also happens to dress in a way that would be considered ‘slutty’ in her culture/society - would get hollas very frequently. BUT ^ basically all women out there of all ages and appearances get hollas anyway – as far as I’ve noticed… It's just that it doesn't happen as often. quote: You need to be a somewhat attractive female to incite that degree of attention.
I have to disagree – simply because attractiveness can be subjective. Some guys have a fetish for overweight women for example.. so they would holla even though those girls might not be considered a standard of attractiveness.. or they might like women who are older than them and holla at 40 yr olds. As I said it is less frequent ^ but it really happens across the board – in my opinion. Amowls – I don’t dress provocatively either. I have a Cappy Mars so I usually wear business-y clothing. I like suits and business dresses. As I was just saying --- it can happen regardless of what you are wearing. The only difference is that if you were wearing very revealing clothes – it would happen every 5 minutes.
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amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 1933 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted January 21, 2012 05:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by mintgirl123: Do people actually find getting hit on flattering? I mean when I get cat called I feel kinda dirty and think they're sleazebags. And even if somebody hits on me, it makes me feel real uncomfortable.See it's only flattering if the person who hits on you is hot and does it in a genuine kind of way. Haha what can I say?
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amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 1933 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted January 21, 2012 05:51 PM
quote: Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways: @amelia,In all honesty, I would have given anyone on the street (well within reason) a ride around a couple of blocks as amusement. Its a joy riding in a car of that caliber and I know it attracts attention, but to suggest anything else than a car ride was just ludicrous. Of course, unfortunately, "most men" would have used the car as an extension of their you know what and the deal would have been sealed.... but I'm not "most men." I don't care if whoever cat calls is hot or whatever. Its irritating and unwarranted.
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Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 2388 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 21, 2012 05:51 PM
quote: when I get cat called I feel kinda dirty and think they're sleazebags.
quote: agreee 100% with you
WHY do you feel dirty or uncomfortable? It's their f-ing problem if they don't know how to behave properly in public. It is NOT your problem!!!
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mintgirl123 Knowflake Posts: 1764 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted January 21, 2012 05:55 PM
Yeah I know, can't help it. Makes me feel like a piece of meat. I remember it started when I was like 11. Sometimes nowadays I feel like picking up a rock and throwing it in their face. I think men do it to make us feel uneasy. They can't possibly think we'll be feeling all warm and fuzzy inside do they? Grr lol.IP: Logged |
amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 1933 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted January 21, 2012 05:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by mintgirl123: Yeah I know, can't help it. Makes me feel like a piece of meat. I remember it started when I was like 11. Sometimes nowadays I feel like picking up a rock and throwing it in their face. I think men do it to make us feel uneasy. They can't possibly think we'll be feeling all warm and fuzzy inside do they? Grr lol.
LMAO.....yeah sometimes I give them a mean look but usually I just ignore and sometimes have a mad look on my face but here in colorado I don't come accross this in the mountains, I did in the dominican republic A LOT and in miami often. IP: Logged |
Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 2388 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 21, 2012 06:01 PM
quote: They can't possibly think we'll be feeling all warm and fuzzy inside do they?
I think most guys doing that - would imagine that you would take it as a compliment. But I have to say - I doubt that they are thinking much about female psychology at *all*. They simply want that girl's attention. They want her to look back.. or smile.. or yell at them - or something! They want her to *notice* them. Also - if they are in a group of men... sometimes it's not even that they want the girl's attention. They might simply want to show off in front of the other guys - asserting their masculinity - like "OH Lookit me! I am such a confident stud muffin!" IP: Logged |
mintgirl123 Knowflake Posts: 1764 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted January 21, 2012 06:02 PM
I actually wonder how their reaction would be if I went up to them with a flirtatious smile and acted coy.They'll probably drop their pants straight away -_-. Effing pigs. That is why numbers for the species of gentlemen are diminishing at an astounding rate nowadays. Gotta catch one before I'm left with one of THOSE. Urgh lol.
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mintgirl123 Knowflake Posts: 1764 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted January 21, 2012 06:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by Betty Boop: I think most guys doing that - would imagine that you would take it as a compliment. But I have to say - I doubt that they are thinking much about female psychology at *all*. They simply want that girl's attention. They want her to look back.. or smile.. or yell at them - or something! They want her to *notice* them. Also - if they are in a group of men... sometimes it's not even that they want the girl's attention. They might simply want to show off in front of the other guys - asserting their masculinity - like "OH Lookit me! I am such a confident stud muffin!"
LOL!! Haha yeahh...Confident stud muffin they will never be. But one can dream aye. Some of them are delusional enough. =) I hate those weird smiles they give you. It's like I feel myself covered with filth just with a glance. IP: Logged |
Lonake Moderator Posts: 6532 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 21, 2012 10:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by Malena: Yes, I can.
You're really giving it more attn than it's worth. IP: Logged |
Lonake Moderator Posts: 6532 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 21, 2012 10:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by Betty Boop: I think most guys doing that - would imagine that you would take it as a compliment. But I have to say - I doubt that they are thinking much about female psychology at *all*. They simply want that girl's attention. They want her to look back.. or smile.. or yell at them - or something! They want her to *notice* them. Also - if they are in a group of men... sometimes it's not even that they want the girl's attention. They might simply want to show off in front of the other guys - asserting their masculinity - like "OH Lookit me! I am such a confident stud muffin!"
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Lonake Moderator Posts: 6532 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 21, 2012 10:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by mintgirl123: I actually wonder how their reaction would be if I went up to them with a flirtatious smile and acted coy.
I've done this, shouted back at them really sweet and flirty. It's an absolute riot to see their reaction. Then I just smile and walk off. IP: Logged |
Malena Knowflake Posts: 173 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted January 21, 2012 11:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lonake: You're really giving it more attn than it's worth.
I'll give it whatever attention I want. Your experiences are not mine. If you have had harmless experiences, good for you. I (and friends) have had catcalling experiences that ended in verbal abuse, rape threats, the guy following me, and physical aggression. Even if the majority of catcalls are just yelling, I really hate that you never know which ones are going to take it farther than that. So yes, I do pay attention to potential threats to my safety. Call me crazy. IP: Logged |
missange Newflake Posts: 6 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 22, 2012 12:11 AM
quote: Originally posted by Betty Boop: I think most guys doing that - would imagine that you would take it as a compliment. But I have to say - I doubt that they are thinking much about female psychology at *all*. They simply want that girl's attention. They want her to look back.. or smile.. or yell at them - or something! They want her to *notice* them. Also - if they are in a group of men... sometimes it's not even that they want the girl's attention. They might simply want to show off in front of the other guys - asserting their masculinity - like "OH Lookit me! I am such a confident stud muffin!"
I agree with this 100%. I think it's totally about attention. It's like those little kids who act naughty around mom or their teacher at school. They know it's wrong, but it gets them what they want. It's probably these kids that grow up into cat callers come to think of it... As for the Pisces ASC thing, no, all it takes to be catcalled is to be human. I know some seriously uncouth women who have done it to men. It's not often, but it happens, and it's obvious the men are just as uncomfortable as we are. IP: Logged |
amowls** Knowflake Posts: 1111 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted January 22, 2012 11:12 AM
quote: Originally posted by Betty Boop: WHY do you feel dirty or uncomfortable? It's their f-ing problem if they don't know how to behave properly in public. It is NOT your problem!!!
The goal of catcalling is to make the victim feel dirty and uncomfortable, so its not exactly surprising if someone feels that way I just get indignant and tell them to f*ck off. Once a man pulled up next to me in his car (I was also in mine) and started making whistling noises and kissy faces. I wasn't in the mood to say anything so I just looked him in the eye, kept eye contact and rolled up my window. That made him fly into a rage. He called me a b*tch and sped off. It was nice but also kind of scary that he would get THAT mad about it. I was afraid he'd follow me so I drove to a friend's house. Catcalling and FLIRTING are not the same thing because they happen in different contexts. Do you honestly think guys assume that women will respond positively to catcalling? Men aren't idiots. The desired reaction is fear/frustration. They want you to feel small and weak. That's the goal. Malena is 100% right. Catcalling is an extension of rape culture. Rapists and catcallers both feel powerful when harassing/threatening women. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 531 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted January 22, 2012 12:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by Betty Boop: WHY do you feel dirty or uncomfortable? It's their f-ing problem if they don't know how to behave properly in public. It is NOT your problem!!!
Amowls already commented on this but I also wanted to add I feel the same way. I feel that way because I know their intent is to objectify me. Their IGNORANCE is what makes me feel dirty, the fact they represent a portion of the male species and to wonder if this is how all men secretly feel but restrain themselves is repulsive. I ignore catcallers (which by the way I think Gemini or Virgo receives the most negative attention.) but their vulgarity certainly leaves an impression. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 1411 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted January 22, 2012 12:54 PM
quote: Originally posted by Malena: So yes, I do pay attention to potential threats to my safety. Call me crazy.
Make sure you carry pepper spray in your purse or bag. Better yet, take some self-defense classes to protect yourself from these idiots. The women on my wife's side pack heat to ensure against such aggression, and make known. I'm not suggesting that, but the better equipped you are against these idiots, the better. IP: Logged |
woah cakes Knowflake Posts: 880 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted January 22, 2012 02:13 PM
amowls, i agree completely. mintgirl, you are frikkin hilarious  IP: Logged |
SmilingHeart Knowflake Posts: 332 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted January 22, 2012 05:20 PM
@Betty Boop " quote:I get people smiling and waving at me on the bus or train.
I thought this was pretty common as well? People smile at each other all the time. Waving is a bit stranger but maybe they had you confused with someone." Not where I live. We don't look at eachother. We don't talk to each other and we certainly don't smile AND wave at each other. If you hear catcalls on the streets it must be someone foreign...
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Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 2388 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 22, 2012 05:50 PM
Animals of all species try to attract sexual attention to themselves in some way. It's not confined to drunken homosapien males. So I guess I expect this kind of behaviour and for that reason I can ignore it - It doesn't bother me either way. I feel like it's just one of those perfectly 'predictable' and boring experiences in life that keep repeating themselves ad nauseum in the exact same pattern (with different 'actors' playing the exact same parts). hannarama - quote: I wonder if this is how all men secretly feel but restrain themselves is repulsive
I always assumed that they do more or less feel this way. I mean - are you asking if ALL men are secretly sexually attracted to women they see walking past? I'm sure this happens frequently! Why do you find this repulsive? Also - Malena - I agree that one should be careful, but it really depends on circumstances. If it is day time and you are in a reasonable neighborhood with others around.. it's unlikely someone will rape you in the middle of the street. So there is no reason to panic or be afraid unless you are in a situation where rape or aggression would actually be 'likely'. IP: Logged |
Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 2388 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 22, 2012 05:52 PM
quote: We don't look at eachother. We don't talk to each other and we certainly don't smile AND wave at each other
OH Ok! That's interesting. Maybe it's a case of cultural differences. I live in a main city, in Australia. People make eye contact and smile all the time.. and often when I walk my dog in the morning - they say "Good Morning" as well. IP: Logged |