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alaz7200
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posted January 23, 2012 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alaz7200     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by the89freespirit:
Also, there are usually dark familial patterns with 8th house folks (in particular if the Moon is in this house). I've learned that sexual trauma runs in my mom's side of the family. There are lots of secrets and skeletons and, as the 8th house child, I seem to be the vessel for them. And I can either become lost in that darkness or find a way to acknowledge and channel it.


My brother has the Moon in the 8th House. I do, too, but it's very near my 9th House cusp, however, I feel both house placements very potently. And I must say, my mother was molested by her stepfather from ages 5-15 while her mother knew and did nothing to stop it. There have also been 5 other molestations of cousins of mine by family members, blood-related or not. Sadly, your theory is very true.

I was very aware of sex at an early age, say 4 or 5. I would fantasize about my kindergarten teacher nude and in the ocean. I remember imaging "being with her." When I was 6 or 7, I had the same type of feelings, this time, however, they were very irrational sexual feelings for my father; I would want him to "be with me." It was all very wrong, and at the time I knew it, but I couldn't keep myself from physically rubbing up against him in a sexual manner. Things were never taken any further than this kind of "dry-humping" phase, but I often wonder what he made of it and if he was even aware of it. This only lasted about 2 years, and he wasn't even a constant in my life, but in retrospect I can't fathom how I ever felt like that -- skeeves me out!

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posted January 23, 2012 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by tautomer4314:
I was told similar things when I was little, that I was hard to relate to because I was not communicating in a "normal" regard.

I'm 22 now so that has obviously left me at this point. It honestly depends on who meets me on how they see me. Some people will see me as highly mature, or very immature. That's largely because of my gemini energy though, I can appear differently depending on the circumstances.

I never resented being treated as older. I just wanted to be treated like I was on the same level as everyone else. Fairness is/was very very important to me.


KingTaurus and you remind me of myself (probably the Taurus and Gemini placements. )

I have an 8th house stellium as well; Saturn, Uranus, Neptune. I'm an only child who never got along with her mother past age 4, and took way too much advice from her father who's a bit negative after working in the government, and seeing crime for 28 years. I've always been wise beyond my years and found it very hard to relate to my peers in the way naturally social people do. At my core I'm disinterested in drugs, and drinking. I don't care about pop culture and I find it's sad I'll stoop to that sometimes in order to have a 5-minute conversation with my lab partner in class, because for that 5 minutes I actually feel like my age instead of a million times older.


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posted January 23, 2012 07:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KingTaurus2104     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
KingTaurus and you remind me of myself (probably the Taurus and Gemini placements. )

I have an 8th house stellium as well; Saturn, Uranus, Neptune. I'm an only child who never got along with her mother past age 4, and took way too much advice from her father who's a bit negative after working in the government, and seeing crime for 28 years. I've always been wise beyond my years and found it very hard to relate to my peers in the way naturally social people do. At my core I'm disinterested in drugs, and drinking. I don't care about pop culture and I find it's sad I'll stoop to that sometimes in order to have a 5-minute conversation with my lab partner in class, because for that 5 minutes I actually feel like my age instead of a million times older.


:O I myself do get on well with my parents really. But I can talk to people my age okay but with anyone, I like talking about very deep things and recently I've learned that people find it hard to cope with. It's not really just my age , even older people now I guess...I just feel different, special I seem to have a more than normal sense of loyalty and I'm able to help anyone with anything, I most certainly don't drop them because I'm not weak like so many other people.

I sound very arrogant, please forgive me everyone. I just wanted to say the truth of how I feel.

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Originally posted by KingTaurus2104:
I'm heavily interested in natal astrology, some of the things I might be discussing can be very heavy going and potentially upsetting for some people- if this is the case I'll warn you now. I also hope I don't break any rules.

I've read a lot of things about the eighth houses influence on us humans. I've came across a quote about the moon in the eighth house- 'watch over children with this placement carefully.' People with planets like the moon in the eighth can apparently have traumatic experiences such as rape and other kinds of sexual abuse. Also a quote about boys with eight house moons, 'he may inherit something from woman', can anyone interpret this?

A lot of the information I've mentioned is very serious. I will ask you, if you feel comfortable enough, to discuss some of these things with me. I'll trust that people here will be tactful and sensitive towards others too.

I myself have a stellium in the eighth house including the Moon (20 Capricorn), Uranus (0 Aquarius) and Neptune (25 Capricorn.) I was sexually abused when I was younger a few times by my female baby sitter (mid-late teens I believe)and as far as I know my parents are unaware.

As a child, I was strange...I was quite naughty but also quite 'cute'. I always preferred adult company from very young and even could talk about very adult subjects. People always found me to be extremely intelligent for my age, so much so they were shocked. Although aggressive and intense minded sometimes, I'm apparently 'wise beyond my years'. I'm fairly introverted, I do have friends and people enjoy my company. I'm not like a lot of teenagers, I'm not into getting drunk and I've never done drugs. I feel quite disconnected from other people and I like it that way.

I'd love to hear about people's experiences with the eighth house and I'd be most comfortable with answering any questions anyone might have!


can I suggest you STOP reading Traditional astrology sites or books as they wil probably frighten yourself..... try modern we're much more amiable...

The Mysteries of the 8th House: House of Death & Transformation
by Carmen Turner-Schott http://www.ofspirit.com/carmenturnerschott1.htm http://mysticmedusa.com/2009/03/the-eerie-8th-house/ http://mystarworld.com/content/planets_in_8th_house.asp

I have jupiter virgo retro in 8th which can suggest largish bits and hmmmm pieces. I have also inherited from family while stil alive and benefitted from joint resources..

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I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.”

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posted January 23, 2012 11:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sand:
[B]hmm.. i have my node there, chiron, juno and a lot more asteroids. i don't really have a dominant house or anything like that.


First interpret the SIGN traits, then house position and aspects to...
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houses.htm#house8

It could suggest that you come away from strongly held personal values and beliefs (2nd house) and investigate *other people's values and beliefs* and to learn more about 8th house matters, which could be anything from the above link. Maybe inheritances, you could be called upon to be Trustee or Executor, deal with goods of the deceased again all 8th house matters...


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I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.”

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posted January 23, 2012 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My nearly 20 year old Aqua daughter has a very odd chart, almost every planet packed into the 7th and 8th,

She has Moon, Sun and Merc in Aqua in the 8th.

She was born with a severe heart defect, had first surgery at 7 days, 2nd at 16 mos and her repair at 3, which was open heart surgery. (she may need further surgery in the future.

Her dad killed himself when she was 9, cause I was divorcing him, he was an alcoholic and neither of my daughters grew up in a "normal" home.

She has been to jail for assult (on me), she has gotten herself into many other predicaments that I shudder to remember, she has totaled 3 cars by 19 years old...

However,

She is one of the most intelligent young lady I have ever known, she is very spiritually evolved, has learned from her mistakes of the recent past and is trying to make a better present and future.

She attracts Scorpios frequently and does not like the Scorpio energy...(I have a Scorp asc.) I tell her that when a Scorpio comes into her life, she should stop, analyze and try to learn from the interaction...possibly a mirror for her.

Great thread!

O, and I have always heard that 8th house sunners, loose their dad, physically or emotionally early in their lives.

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posted January 23, 2012 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 23, 2012 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chironrising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
eighth house sun may lose their dad...or he may be around for a very very long time...for me, both my parents will be

my moon is well aspected in jupiter in capricorn...she will be around long after me...

my father is a healer and this goes with sun conjunct neptune in capricorn in the eighth....well aspected to pluto and mars...he was not around much for me for teh sake of healing others...they needed him...but i was always provided for

so he will be around long after me too...

I have had a vision. I will die around thirty - thirty five....like the others with my aspects...and when I pass away I will not be immortalized until 100 years have passed and my remnants are discovered by my nephews ancestors - he is not born yet.

I have chosen this path by my actions to be an artist....and a struggling one...and to do what is hard with dis-ease...but i have done it because I have come to the realization that this earth is only a box...and when I am released I will move on and ascend...for not exacting revenge and loving my enemies....purging my jealousy...and moving forward...>I will be gone but free with a wind or a tussel...doesn't matter...I will be free...they will be done..

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posted January 23, 2012 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KingTaurus2104:
:O I myself do get on well with my parents really. But I can talk to people my age okay but with anyone, I like talking about very deep things and recently I've learned that people find it hard to cope with. It's not really just my age , even older people now I guess...I just feel different, special I seem to have a more than normal sense of loyalty and I'm able to help anyone with anything, I most certainly don't drop them because I'm not weak like so many other people.

I sound very arrogant, please forgive me everyone. I just wanted to say the truth of how I feel.


Well, that was my point in that deep, thought-provoking and even challenging conversations are fun for me. It's hard to find someone my age who likes the same. I hope I didn't imply I drop people who don't live up to my standards because I don't. Also, you sound empathic. Do you ever feel what others feel as though you were experiencing the emotion firsthand?

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posted January 23, 2012 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LilithPowers1025     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know I am a 8th house person!

*I have a stellium in the 8th house with my Sun in Scorpio, Mars, and Mercury in Libra. Also, I
have a hand full of asteroids:Pandora, Isis, Lilith, Admata, Panacea, etc...
*Was born October 25, 1989 in Oakland, California, 8 days after the 89 World Series Earthquake.
*My first name and middle name has 8 letters.
*My Life path number is 8.
*My shoe size is 8.
*The district of the recruiting office in which I joined the Navy is in district number 8.
*I graduated high school at 18 in 2008.
*Attended a party, there was a list everyone had a number and coincidentally I was number 8 and received $8! it was a pole dancing party.
*Again, I was number 8 on a list to see about unemployment benefits.

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posted January 23, 2012 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So you've definitely had coincidences with the number 8 but what does that MEAN? I ask because I see number patterns all the time but nothing extraordinary is happening or happens afterwards, so I'm on the fence about paying attention or not. Leaning more towards not.

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posted January 24, 2012 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KingTaurus2104     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Well, that was my point in that deep, thought-provoking and even challenging conversations are fun for me. It's hard to find someone my age who likes the same. I hope I didn't imply I drop people who don't live up to my standards because I don't. Also, you sound empathic. Do you ever feel what others feel as though you were experiencing the emotion firsthand?

OMG I didn't mean to imply that you would drop people, it wasn't a personal attack towards you! I'm so sorry! I guess I'm empathic, well very compassionate...and maybe I can feel what others feel... :P x

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posted January 24, 2012 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fascinating thread, thank you all for your input.

I've got an 8th house Pisces moon, almost died at birth, and my childhood was painful.

For a long time I felt like I couldn't relate to people who had easy lives.

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