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KingTaurus2104
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posted January 22, 2012 01:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KingTaurus2104     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm heavily interested in natal astrology, some of the things I might be discussing can be very heavy going and potentially upsetting for some people- if this is the case I'll warn you now. I also hope I don't break any rules.

I've read a lot of things about the eighth houses influence on us humans. I've came across a quote about the moon in the eighth house- 'watch over children with this placement carefully.' People with planets like the moon in the eighth can apparently have traumatic experiences such as rape and other kinds of sexual abuse. Also a quote about boys with eight house moons, 'he may inherit something from woman', can anyone interpret this?

A lot of the information I've mentioned is very serious. I will ask you, if you feel comfortable enough, to discuss some of these things with me. I'll trust that people here will be tactful and sensitive towards others too.

I myself have a stellium in the eighth house including the Moon (20 Capricorn), Uranus (0 Aquarius) and Neptune (25 Capricorn.) I was sexually abused when I was younger a few times by my female baby sitter (mid-late teens I believe)and as far as I know my parents are unaware.

As a child, I was strange...I was quite naughty but also quite 'cute'. I always preferred adult company from very young and even could talk about very adult subjects. People always found me to be extremely intelligent for my age, so much so they were shocked. Although aggressive and intense minded sometimes, I'm apparently 'wise beyond my years'. I'm fairly introverted, I do have friends and people enjoy my company. I'm not like a lot of teenagers, I'm not into getting drunk and I've never done drugs. I feel quite disconnected from other people and I like it that way.

I'd love to hear about people's experiences with the eighth house and I'd be most comfortable with answering any questions anyone might have!

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posted January 22, 2012 01:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
'he may inherit something from woman'

Moon rules the mother or women so he may inherit money from grandmother, mother, wife....etc...

8th house rules join finances and inheritance in addition to sex for bonding.

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posted January 22, 2012 01:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tautomer4314     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My childhood was very interesting. For starts, I have an 8th house stellium. Sun, mercury, venus, and jupiter strung together. Sun being in tarus, the rest gemini. My 8th stellium is highly signifigant since I also have pluto in the first house, and it's conjunct my moon in scorpio. Meaning, anything related to scorpio, or my 8th is going to be a major player in me.

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As a child, I was strange...I was quite naughty but also quite 'cute'. I always preferred adult company from very young and even could talk about very adult subjects. People always found me to be extremely intelligent for my age, so much so they were shocked. Although aggressive and intense minded sometimes, I'm apparently 'wise beyond my years'.

I could have written this quoted word for word. I was a very bizzare child and stood out like a sore thumb. My mercury being in gemini would try so hard to outwardly express myself but it was far too strange for most of my peers to understand. As a consequence, I was teased and pushed aside for years. Until 7th grade when it got so bad I changed school districts. I got along with adults very well as a child, and was very well respected. I got the wise beyond my years comment ALL the time. My family respected that, but I was also troublesome. I would cause problems without trying. Usually in the fashion of breaking something.

I never had any sexual conflicts as a child, which I am greatful for. The major two factors growing up for me was school problems (social and academic), and father problems. My father was psycholgically abusive to me, although he was not aware of what he was doing really.

I'd be happy to answer any questions you might have.

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posted January 22, 2012 01:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for L0veLess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yu know what i always had a feeling that my little cousin would have some problem like that attracting unwanted sexual attention. She's really cute and like sneaky. The kinda kid a pedophile would kidnap. Her attitude reminds me of a teenager but she's only 5. I never made her chart but i had her info, so when i read this i wondered about her chart and yu know what she has her moon in the 8th house o.o. That creeped me out.

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posted January 22, 2012 01:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KingTaurus2104     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by tautomer4314:
My childhood was very interesting. For starts, I have an 8th house stellium. Sun, mercury, venus, and jupiter strung together. Sun being in tarus, the rest gemini. My 8th stellium is highly signifigant since I also have pluto in the first house, and it's conjunct my moon in scorpio. Meaning, anything related to scorpio, or my 8th is going to be a major player in me.

I could have written this quoted word for word. I was a very bizzare child and stood out like a sore thumb. My mercury being in gemini would try so hard to outwardly express myself but it was far too strange for most of my peers to understand. As a consequence, I was teased and pushed aside for years. Until 7th grade when it got so bad I changed school districts. I got along with adults very well as a child, and was very well respected. I got the wise beyond my years comment ALL the time. My family respected that, but I was also troublesome. I would cause problems without trying. Usually in the fashion of breaking something.

I never had any sexual conflicts as a child, which I am greatful for. The major two factors growing up for me was school problems (social and academic), and father problems. My father was psycholgically abusive to me, although he was not aware of what he was doing really.

I'd be happy to answer any questions you might have.



I completely understand where you're coming from! I always was told by my mum that I needed to try and use language more suitable for people my age to understand. She said that sometimes I come across as a bit pretentious, and although there's nothing wrong with being intelligent, I just need to tone it down because I can upset other children...as weird as that sounds!

I also seem to have something about me, and a lot of adults I've only just met say they think I'm very mature for my age...even know they don't know me at all! I guess it's true though.

I was always treated as if I was older than I was which I kind of resented.

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posted January 22, 2012 02:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tautomer4314     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KingTaurus2104:
I completely understand where you're coming from! I always was told by my mum that I needed to try and use language more suitable for people my age to understand. She said that sometimes I come across as a bit pretentious, and although there's nothing wrong with being intelligent, I just need to tone it down because I can upset other children...as weird as that sounds!

I also seem to have something about me, and a lot of adults I've only just met say they think I'm very mature for my age...even know they don't know me at all! I guess it's true though.

I was always treated as if I was older than I was which I kind of resented.


I was told similar things when I was little, that I was hard to relate to because I was not communicating in a "normal" regard. I was not about to stop being me though (I fiercely guarded my identity as a child and no one could change it, only I could). I learned the hard way and through high school I learned to balance things. Then through college I refined things down. I'm at a point now that I can pretty much fit into any situation I want and not appear so odd that I can't be related to.

I'm 22 now so that has obviously left me at this point. It honestly depends on who meets me on how they see me. Some people will see me as highly mature, or very immature. That's largely because of my gemini energy though, I can appear differently depending on the circumstances.

I never resented being treated as older. I just wanted to be treated like I was on the same level as everyone else. Fairness is/was very very important to me.

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posted January 22, 2012 02:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmm.. i have my node there, chiron, juno and a lot more asteroids. i don't really have a dominant house or anything like that.

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There is a need to transform totally your personality - possibly through unexpected events and sudden changes. Aggressive, secretive, anti-social or adventurous sex traits are to be slowly outgrown, and eventually, a new birth of purpose leads you to a more constructive view of the world and society. Powers of self-control and discipline are used to change life circumstances. Success is achieved through a fully transformed, individual and self-motivated personality.


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posted January 22, 2012 02:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KingTaurus2104     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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yu know what i always had a feeling that my little cousin would have some problem like that attracting unwanted sexual attention. She's really cute and like sneaky. The kinda kid a pedophile would kidnap. Her attitude reminds me of a teenager but she's only 5. I never made her chart but i had her info, so when i read this i wondered about her chart and yu know what she has her moon in the 8th house o.o. That creeped me out.


Mmm, indeed. I never really believed that I'm an attractive person however I'm frequently told I am! In fact when I was in year 4 (8/9 years old) I had this teacher...and she was so odd towards me! It made me uncomfortable and she didn't appear to treat anyone else that way...I know it sounds absurd...maybe it's my imagination but deep down I don't think it was really. Maybe she was overly-friendly but if she was...it was only it me! Once I was upset in a lesson and she asked if I was okay and I wasn't, she went to the staff room and made me a cup of tea! (she knew I liked tea, lol) But yeah, she gave me a cup of tea to drink whilst I did my work and the whole class were aware...she never did anything like that for anyone else as far as I knew! :/ I still disturbs me a bit as weird as it sounds.

I have a slightly charming way about me...

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posted January 22, 2012 02:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KingTaurus2104     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I was told similar things when I was little, that I was hard to relate to because I was not communicating in a "normal" regard. I was not about to stop being me though (I fiercely guarded my identity as a child and no one could change it, only I could). I learned the hard way and through high school I learned to balance things. Then through college I refined things down. I'm at a point now that I can pretty much fit into any situation I want and not appear so odd that I can't be related to.

I'm 22 now so that has obviously left me at this point. It honestly depends on who meets me on how they see me. Some people will see me as highly mature, or very immature. That's largely because of my gemini energy though, I can appear differently depending on the circumstances.

I never resented being treated as older. I just wanted to be treated like I was on the same level as everyone else. Fairness is/was very very important to me.


Same. I was bullied because I was so different at school. In secondary school I always got called names like poof, queer and bent and things like that. I hated that though, it really upset me...

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posted January 22, 2012 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Mmm, indeed. I never really believed that I'm an attractive person however I'm frequently told I am! In fact when I was in year 4 (8/9 years old) I had this teacher...and she was so odd towards me! It made me uncomfortable and she didn't appear to treat anyone else that way...I know it sounds absurd...maybe it's my imagination but deep down I don't think it was really. Maybe she was overly-friendly but if she was...it was only it me! Once I was upset in a lesson and she asked if I was okay and I wasn't, she went to the staff room and made me a cup of tea! (she knew I liked tea, lol) But yeah, she gave me a cup of tea to drink whilst I did my work and the whole class were aware...she never did anything like that for anyone else as far as I knew! :/ I still disturbs me a bit as weird as it sounds.

I have a slightly charming way about me...


It sounds like she was nicer to you than other kids but she did not touch you inappropriately or said inappropriate things to you so if a teacher was like that to me I would feel flatter and remember her kindness fondly.

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posted January 22, 2012 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KingTaurus2104     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 22, 2012 02:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KingTaurus2104     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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It sounds like she was nicer to you than other kids but she did not touch you inappropriately or said inappropriate things to you so if a teacher was like that to me I would feel flatter and remember her kindness fondly.

I'm so sorry, I know how strange it sounds...but the vibe felt horrible. You are right, maybe it wasn't intentional...but still there was something quite odd.

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posted January 22, 2012 02:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tautomer4314     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Same. I was bullied because I was so different at school. In secondary school I always got called names like poof, queer and bent and things like that. I hated that though, it really upset me...

I got to me too to be made fun of. I was often very upset in elementry and middle school. Nevertheless I found that the only way it was going to stop is if I did something about it. In high school I found friends who liked me for who I was and slowly built a base. On the very rare occasion when someone would poke at me, I would have friends run to my defenses, and I would stick to my convictions. The only time people have power over you, is if you give it to them and let them have it.

It's all about standing your ground and using the power you have. The 8th house IS powerful, you just have to learn how to use that power, and not let it consume you (in more ways then one). It takes a lot of effort to figure out how but, rest assured it can be done.

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posted January 22, 2012 02:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for L0veLess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KingTaurus2104:
Mmm, indeed. I never really believed that I'm an attractive person however I'm frequently told I am! In fact when I was in year 4 (8/9 years old) I had this teacher...and she was so odd towards me! It made me uncomfortable and she didn't appear to treat anyone else that way...I know it sounds absurd...maybe it's my imagination but deep down I don't think it was really. Maybe she was overly-friendly but if she was...it was only it me! Once I was upset in a lesson and she asked if I was okay and I wasn't, she went to the staff room and made me a cup of tea! (she knew I liked tea, lol) But yeah, she gave me a cup of tea to drink whilst I did my work and the whole class were aware...she never did anything like that for anyone else as far as I knew! :/ I still disturbs me a bit as weird as it sounds.

I have a slightly charming way about me...


that is creepy! i know that i got a vibe like that from my soccer coach. I waas in 2nd grade at the time, and it was like the end of the season, and my mom and i saw him at a food place and he walked over to me after sayin bye to my mother in the food line, and he crouched a little and talked low into my ear and was saying how he enjoyed having me on the team and that i was a very pretty girl and he was like rubbing my back i was just weirded out. He Maybe he didn't meean it that way but he was a weird guy and said it all creepy... and he got like fired too from coaching cos of something (not sexual related). I myself don't have any 8th house placements. Just a moon in scorpio conj pluto 2H.

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posted January 22, 2012 02:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KingTaurus2104     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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that is creepy! i know that i got a vibe like that from my soccer coach. I waas in 2nd grade at the time, and it was like the end of the season, and my mom and i saw him at a food place and he walked over to me after sayin bye to my mother in the food line, and he crouched a little and talked low into my ear and was saying how he enjoyed having me on the team and that i was a very pretty girl and he was like rubbing my back i was just weirded out. He Maybe he didn't meean it that way but he was a weird guy and said it all creepy... and he got like fired too from coaching cos of something (not sexual related). I myself don't have any 8th house placements. Just a moon in scorpio conj pluto 2H.

OMG!! Weird...I she did that whispering thing too...but she got so un-naturally close to my ear...and spoke so quietly. It made me feel very uncomfortable :/ it so about something very trivial I can't remember what though, it was nothing inappropriate...I don't think...But yeah, at least you know 'the vibe' thing :/

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posted January 22, 2012 02:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for L0veLess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol the vibe thing. yep bleh

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posted January 22, 2012 03:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 22, 2012 04:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I'm so sorry, I know how strange it sounds...but the vibe felt horrible. You are right, maybe it wasn't intentional...but still there was something quite odd.


well if the vibe felt bad then probably something to it.

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The Mysteries of the 8th House: House of Death & Transformation
by Carmen Turner-Schott http://www.ofspirit.com/carmenturnerschott1.htm http://mysticmedusa.com/2009/03/the-eerie-8th-house/ http://mystarworld.com/content/planets_in_8th_house.asp

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posted January 22, 2012 06:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KingTaurus2104:
I'm so sorry, I know how strange it sounds...but the vibe felt horrible. You are right, maybe it wasn't intentional...but still there was something quite odd.


The problem/blessing with 8th house people is that they do feel the "vibes". So it may not not be physical sexual assault, but they sense a sexual aggression, even if it is just in the other persons mind.
The thing is with Pluto that you are able to "know" people's unconscious motivations and that happens early on. So if one did have an abusive parent, or parents who put up a front but did not love each other, the Pluto child would just know this and suffer consequently.
Blessed are the poor in spirit?

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posted January 22, 2012 06:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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well if the vibe felt bad then probably something to it.

very strongly agree

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I have Mercury, Venus, and Mars in the 8th. I have always seemed to attract a lot of unwanted attention, even as a kid. Then, the attention was very inappropriate because people seemed to find me attractive in almost a romantic or lustful way, which I found very confusing.

I was the victim of molestation, at the age of five, from my second cousin, who was about twelve at the time. We were sleeping in the same bed at our great-grandmother's house. He died about five years ago, but my feelings over it didn't die with him. I am now at the point where I feel like I'm overcoming the trauma, however, and feeling the inner peace to be able to discuss it.

As children, I think 8th house people become aware of sex at a very premature age. After that incident, I was very conscious of sex and that I was a sexual being, but it's hard to know what to do with that awareness before you hit puberty.

I've read Mars in the 8th has to do with sexual trauma of some sort. I also do seem to have a knack for dealing with other people's resources and money. It's almost like I naturally attract it (Venus).

Also, there are usually dark familial patterns with 8th house folks (in particular if the Moon is in this house). I've learned that sexual trauma runs in my mom's side of the family. There are lots of secrets and skeletons and, as the 8th house child, I seem to be the vessel for them. And I can either become lost in that darkness or find a way to acknowledge and channel it.


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posted January 22, 2012 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
great place on FB to talk about 8th house issues...the person who created the group had written a book all on the 8th house

http://www.facebook.com/groups/eighthhousepeopleunite/

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posted January 23, 2012 12:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ladyvi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My moon is in 8th house

I wasn't sexually assaulted but I was bullied mercilessly as a child and teen. And I have been in situations when I can get really strong vibes of someone who is sexually predatory they will come up and dance with me or try to talk to me in a club and all these warning signs pop up in my head! My best friend who has a Scorpio moon and venus has the same problem!! We always get really psycho obsessive guys hitting on us! I've been stalked and followed by one of my ex boyfriends also from a guy who had mars in Scorpio who I hooked up with once he blew up my phone the second I didn't answer and had this really creepy vibe about him. But so far THANK GOD I haven't had any sexual violence against me. And when I was a kid my dad kept me far far away from boys even as a young kid! My dad has a packed 8th house and Scorpio moon so maybe he sensed something about the environment that I didn't understand as a kid and so he would watch me very very carefully.

As far as my mom really no issues with her except shes really flaky and unattentive lol

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posted January 23, 2012 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ladyvi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow going back even farther into my memory, my dad never let me sleep over at peoples houses and barely let me drive with other peoples parents as a kid same with my brother. My brother also has an 8th house moon and for some reason older women always seemed too comfortable around him. After reading some articles about 8th house moons its finally making sense!

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