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Geminisquared
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posted January 22, 2012 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminisquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do any of you have a hard time getting getting along or understanding the same gender.

I usually do not get along with other guys. Regardless if they have masculine or effeminate qualities. its just that they feel uncomfortable around me or hostile towards me, and if they get to know me they usually will like me. At parties they usually are not sure how to approach me. The few male friends I have are VERY mature, that one thing I noticed. Far more mature then I am lol

I like both genders equally, I do not have a preference of who I like be around. Its just that women only befriend me. So being friends with mostly girls I understand them more then men, so its really weird now.
I do not behave feminine or masculine, I'm neutral. I think thats because of all the mercury energy.

When I was kid I did not have this problem, actually most of my friends were boys.

I do have moon in the 11th house in taurus, I think that explains getting along with the opposite sex.

I'm a wee bit tipsy so excuse the typos

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted January 22, 2012 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Absolutely. I find it impossible to remain friends with men, and infact find no inclination on making friends with men.

I usually have nothing much in common in the first place. But even if I were to share common interests or viewpoints, it usually ends up in some power struggle or downright confrontation.

All my best friends are women, and almost all my good friends in general are women.

This has been life long for me. When I was a kid, I played only with girls. I had no problems playing with dolls, playing house, dressing up or kitchen sets, and I also had no problems with finding girls willing to play race tracks, ride bikes, climb trees or catch insects. The upside was that I was surrounded with girls. Of course, that made me the butt of all jokes with the boys.

Mars and Mercury in the 11th House in Capricorn. Venus in Aquarius in 12th House. Sun in the 10th House in Capricorn. Moon in the 3rd House in Gemini. Pisces ASC and Cancer North Node in 5th House.

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posted January 22, 2012 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tautomer4314     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can't say that I do.

Around 75% of my friends are women, but I can get along with either gender just fine They get along with me just fine as well. In recent years I have noticed a tendency of men to want to befriend me more often and quickly then women do, thus I have been making more male friends. I tend to befriend women faster then men due to the fact that I feel more comfortable expressing myself around them. That, and I am a lot more sensitive then I let other know, and women (generally) are more accommodating for that. Which, is key for me opening up fully and forming friendships.

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Geminisquared
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posted January 22, 2012 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminisquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thats interesting. You also have 11th house placements. Is it awkward when you do have socialize with them?

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Geminisquared
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posted January 22, 2012 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminisquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by tautomer4314:
Can't say that I do.

Around 75% of my friends are women, but I can get along with either gender just fine They get along with me just fine as well. In recent years I have noticed a tendency of men to want to befriend me more often and quickly then women do, thus I have been making more male friends. I tend to befriend women faster then men due to the fact that I feel more comfortable expressing myself around them. That, and I am a lot more sensitive then I let other know, and women (generally) are more accommodating for that. Which, is key for me opening up fully and forming friendships.


I remember you had a beard... everyone loves beards . haha. Yeah I think its normal for men find it easy to talk to women just because they are usually sensitive and understanding.. Basically you have a normal social life .

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted January 22, 2012 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not very sociable in the first place and never really made overt efforts to be friends with men.

I have people who find me interesting approach me before I approach them, and it is seldom men who find me interesting.

Growing up, I was lucky in the sense that I never lacked girlfriends, but don't getme wrong. Girls viewed me as one of the girls. Most didn't view me as a sex partner, although I had enough of that too.

I presented myself as a super clean cut guy, and girls tend not to like that for a sex partner but seek me for humor and intelligent conversation. I don't blame them. They like to fantasize sex with Brad Pitt and Jon Bon Jovi, and not Donald Trump.

Even then, as a 20-something, I sometimes went on dates every day of the week. I certainly pursued some girls aggressively, but many dates were girls asking me out.

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posted January 22, 2012 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminisquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Its usually the nice guys who end up getting married and having a stable marriage and make good fathers Some girls are attracted to bad boys, but they learn over time that they really do not care about them.
I'm bisexual so usually if guys are interested in me its usually for a romantic relationship. Now this would be understandable that only straight men would feel uncomfortable around me, but its also gay men too. I wouldn't say its jealously either because guys are usually are chill enough and don't really care about what other people are doing etc.

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posted January 22, 2012 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SmilingHeart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also have the moon in the 11th house but I get along really well with my own gender.
I think Moon in 11th makes you usually more popular with women in general.

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posted January 22, 2012 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And you are absolutely correct. The failings lie in me for sure and my general personality.

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posted January 22, 2012 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminisquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ That really interesting. I wonder if 11th house also have a reverse effect with the same gender. I guess if were speaking psychologically guys would see us easily socializing with women and either think we have betrayed our own gender or competition maybe?

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posted January 22, 2012 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I generally get along with geeky guys and relatively "butch" girls.
Most stereotypically feminine activities bore me to frikkin' tears.

Sun: Pisces, Moon: Aqua, Asc: Scorp, Venus: Taurus, Mars: Leo...and Saturn in the 11th.

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Geminisquared
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posted January 22, 2012 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminisquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
those are a lot of planets in the 11th house wow

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posted January 22, 2012 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SmilingHeart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Geminisquared:
^ That really interesting. I wonder if 11th house also have a reverse effect with the same gender. I guess if were speaking psychologically guys would see us easily socializing with women and either think we have betrayed our own gender or competition maybe?

Well, that could be the case with guys.
Since I'm a girl I don't have that problem

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posted January 22, 2012 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminisquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SmilingHeart:
Well, that could be the case with guys.
Since I'm a girl I don't have that problem


Opps I did not see that haha

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posted January 22, 2012 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, no, no - sorry, should've been more clear.

Sun: 5th
Moon: 3rd
Venus: 7th
Mars: 10th
Saturn: 11th

I threw the Saturn in there b/c of its position and the conversation. I should probably also add that I've always had a few really good friends at a time. Acquaintances by the boatload, but I've never been comfortable with calling just anyone "friend" (Thus Spake Saturn )

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posted January 22, 2012 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm half out of my head with a sinus infection and was lazy, but am preggers - paranoid about meds.

Plus of the day: Awesome husband who fielded everything else as I was nestled in bed playing Skyrim

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posted January 22, 2012 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neptune'sDaughter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YTA, Is your mars badly afflicted from masculine planets? Mars in the 11th should give you male friends?

I have venus in aqua in the 11th and moon in the 7th and I have I form very deep bonds with my female friends. As I've said in other threads, I do have alot of aspects that garner some craziness from females lol But I've never been one of those girls to hate having female friends because of it. Also, females trust me extremely quickly (although people in general seem to too) and I am not usually the initator. My friends laugh because girls have a way of kind of orbiting me for a bit before trying to initiate friendship. Usually they are quite persistant and want to take me out to eat or to a party, etc and will pay (and here I am speaking of in just a friendship way not those that come on sexually). I will have guy friends too but there always seems to be distance involved I.e. moving, different countries/cities, etc. When I do hang out with guys regularly, I am consistently thrown into the role of 'innocent/naive good girl that we, the man pack, must protect' LOL

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posted January 22, 2012 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neptune'sDaughter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Geminisquared:
^ That really interesting. I wonder if 11th house also have a reverse effect with the same gender. I guess if were speaking psychologically guys would see us easily socializing with women and either think we have betrayed our own gender or competition maybe?

I agree. I love how you always look at situation from the 'other' angle. This theory is true because different aspects of my chart and definitely expressed in my life as how others act toward me and try,to kind of make me be versus how I am myself.

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posted January 22, 2012 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neptune'sDaughter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mockingbird:
I'm half out of my head with a sinus infection and was lazy, but am preggers - paranoid about meds.

Plus of the day: Awesome husband who fielded everything else as I was nestled in bed playing Skyrim


Aww you poor thing! Good idea about the meds -maybe something natural could help you feel more comfortable? I am fighting my coworker's tonsulitus -so nice of her to stop by and chitchat when she's feeling better yet still contagious! Lol ugh

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posted January 22, 2012 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune's Daughter,

It is what it is. It's a lot more of what I have in common with most men besides my anatomy, which is very little.

Yes, I have my very macho hobbies, such as not thinking twice about driving race cars at 140+ mph, and martial arts and shooting military weapons, etc.

But I don't enjoy heavy drinking, I don't like watching sports, I don't like strip clubs, i don't dig hoot and hollering at women, don't shoot pool, I don't drink beer.... I go to a country club and I neither play golf nor tennis. Lol.

But... I like to cook and garden, and I clean, sew, wash, knit, crochet, babysit, give manicures and pedicures, apply make up, shop. I can pick out clothes for my wife and even shop for bridal gowns.

See a problem?

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posted January 22, 2012 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminisquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mockingbird:
I'm half out of my head with a sinus infection and was lazy, but am preggers - paranoid about meds.

Plus of the day: Awesome husband who fielded everything else as I was nestled in bed playing Skyrim


Oh congrats I'm playing skyrim right now hahaha :P

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posted January 22, 2012 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmm.. h11 virgo. no planets there. ruler merc is in h6.

merc squares the moon so i shouldn't get along with women?

it also trines neptune and opposes pluto..

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Geminisquared
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posted January 22, 2012 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminisquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hahah the questions is sand do you get a long with women?

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posted January 22, 2012 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YTA - You sound like my husband. There's not a hobby-for-hobby match, but his consistent problem is finding like-minded guy friends.

Neptune - Thank You! My Neti pot seemed to do the trick for a while, but I've been knocked down pretty hard this weekend. I hope you feel better soon, too.

Gemini - Nothing like those load times for finding other stuff to occupy you (on the PS3, anyway).

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posted January 22, 2012 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Geminisquared:
Do any of you have a hard time getting getting along or understanding the same gender.

No, I have more friends that are women. That's primarily because there's no sexual tension and they're more caring and sensitive to my needs, which is what I want in a friend, also typically they are really open with what they're going through, whereas men seem to be more closed off overall. With men I will associate but not get too close unless there's a romantic/sexual relationship, so I'm pretty traditional in that sense. But if there's no sexual tension between us and he seems nice then I'll just be regular friendly, and he'll be the same, but we won't be close friends as I find the lack of tension uninteresting.
The only men I can think of who relate primarily to women are either gay or are not very naturally confident with the idea of being a 'man', meaning sometimes they feel easily threatened, or defensive, and coming up against another man is equal to competition and they'd rather not deal with that. A naturally confident man is not defensive around other men, he sees masculine qualities in them that he admires in himself, so in that sense there's a natural camaraderie.
The women I can think of who don't relate v.easily to other women, or more easily to men, are those who want to be number one with the men they are with and have a few glaring insecurities about being women, but are not completely lacking in confidence. Also a good number had previous negative experiences with men, such as molestation, rape, etc.

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