posted January 25, 2012 02:52 AM            

They're either pathological liars, or, very sensitive people with no backbone.

posted January 25, 2012 02:58 AM            

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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
They're either pathological liars, or, very sensitive people with no backbone.

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Whoa now, whoooooa. Don't speak so poorly of my lovely fishies!

posted January 25, 2012 03:32 AM            

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Originally posted by L0veLess:
i would agree with the sensitive part but no backbone? the pisces i know have a sharp tongue and don't have a problem defending themselves. Sure they may get emotional over a situation but they fight back.

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posted January 25, 2012 04:09 AM            

so i see charles barkley is a pisces.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIXPPmzd6Ro

posted January 25, 2012 04:21 AM            

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Originally posted by RedScorp:
[B] Whoa now, whoooooa. Don't speak so poorly of my lovely fishies! /B]

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Redscorp you're going to make an entire zodiac sign fall in love with you talking like that! I like it!

I don't lie. Pisces friends are actually the only ones at the moment that I've never gotten my 'fibbing' radar up on at all. I've passed by some pisces who were horrible liars. I do not think that pisces are liars OR spineless. Usually I find those two go hand in hand. The pisces I know are the buffers of their families, the mediators of their friends, the cousellors of their bosses and the amateur psychologists to everyone. Those sound like characteristics of the backbone of society to me, not the spineless! Yes we tend to get dumped on by the rest of the zodiac and, yes, some pisces love to wallow in it because they feel that is their only acknowledged 'place'. But the truth of the rest of us: we take alot because we can HANDLE it. We are said to be so unreliable and so breakable and not good at coping -and yet we are quick to be called during break ups, marital issues, pregnancies, abuse, financial/health scares and housing problems. We give because we have faith that we can bounce back and, as much as we may hate to admit it, we have a bit of unconditional love for ourselves too that always returns us to trusting, loving and believing in the good of humanity and romance. We take more stick because, in that moment we know that the other person needs their pride or their ego or their money, status, perceived looks more than we do in this world. Yes, we have to learn boundaries and we can and do. But we will probably be the first and last person helping you if things go wrong -even if it's your fault and even if you've bullied us and ruined our reputation beforehand. Things here are temporary but the growth and the evolution of the soul can always happen so we help and hope for the best. I've told people who have hurt me and used me "At least you can't say no one's ever loved you and tried and given you a chance!" I think that's something pisces want to make sure everyone on earth can get at LEAST once! There is a quote I believe from the bottom of my heart: "I think we are who we protect". Attacking people who are forgiving, helping and who do not feel it a NECESSITY to shove their looks or talents down your throat or be overly competitive/ambitious, etc. and to bully them and to protect those who hurt them because it is sociably acceptable is very wrong!

Now as I mentioned before of course there are some toxic Pisces. I'd flat out say stay away from them! When a pisces goes dark they are sooo dark -they're over the edge and all of what is suppose to be good qualities is horrible toxicity. They can be the most emotionally and spiritually manipulative, I think, when gone bad so steeer cleear!

If the pisces are just young and think they must tell white lies to keep a guard up or they are going through a crazy emotional phase, it is up to you if you can handle this or if you don't want it in your life. I know I call people on their stuff and I hate lying and don't tolerate it much. However, I do think it is a openhearted and evolved way of loving to let people go through their own process of learning to self protect and to deal with different emotions. If this is harming you personal space or growth I would say to let it go then. Hopefully, you can let go knowing that people just have to learn in their own ways (even though that sucks sometimes lol)

Last note: pisces is the last of the zodiac, home in the karmic 12th house. I have noticed that people who are condescending, prejudice, or bullying of pisces inevitably reach some karmic point in their life where that same pisces is the only person who can/will help them. Sometimes it is in the very same way they tried to destroy the pisces, I.e. female ruining a pisces' reputation and ostracizing her for a long time finally having it blow up in her face and suddenly needing the pisces' forgiveness before she is let back into social graces. Some are much more drastic and some are more simple -but the point is it's humbling to get fed by the hand you've been trying to cripple! Most of those closer to me who have done me horrid have let me know later that they now understand my wisdom and how strong I am.

I just want to state the obvious (and beautiful!) Truth that we pisces aren't the only ones who sacrifice for others and stand up for people who deserve it -let's call NO ONE gentle 'spineless'! "I think we are who we protect" -I gotta put that in my siggy too!

Fyi I've been writing this thread since there was only one response. I'm tired, finishing up being sick and typing this on my mobile. Anything that has come into play since then I was unknowing of!

posted January 25, 2012 04:27 AM            

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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
Does anyone have this with Pisces?

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posted January 25, 2012 04:29 AM            

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Originally posted by sand:
i'm digging this not very astro related site. sometimes it's hard to dig up who's in what sign on astrotheme.
http://www.biography.com/people/groups/pisces/

so i see charles barkley is a pisces.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIXPPmzd6Ro

i guess shaq's a pisces too lol!

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Hahahahaha sand you're great. I forgot Barkley is a pisces bahaha yes there is a very gruff exterior that some male pisces get that is sooo funny to me. My professor's like that and my libra friend takes him soo seriously and is like 'he doesn't like me!' Lol I keep telling her that that's just his schtick and he's a softy LOL no dice.

posted January 25, 2012 04:32 AM            

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They're either pathological liars, or, very sensitive people
with no backbone.

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I'd sooner look for liar in Mercland.

posted January 25, 2012 08:21 AM            

My best friend, who I've known almost all my life, is a Pisces. And you described her EXACTLY. I'm thrilled!

She lies occasionally out of necessity. She admits to it. When she describes the situations where she feels compelled to lie...to me, it seems like it was the best choice.

posted January 25, 2012 09:36 AM              

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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
Compared to Scorpio and Cancer, yes. You can tell the other water signs are hiding it and beneath that is a very high emotional depth. But with Pisces, it's usually not that much.

They're either pathological liars, or, very sensitive people with no backbone.

Does anyone have this with Pisces?

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OMG this is a terrible *sweeping statements!* Liars can be seen in ANY sun sign, it all depends on the aspects and my bet would be something like mercury/neptune hard aspects.

Scorpio is (in my mind) the worst at playing mind games, emotional manipulations and stubborn control....

Cancer (like virgo) is a worrier. Perhaps if you knew more astrology, at least the basics you would no doubt change your opinions...

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posted January 25, 2012 01:35 PM            

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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
Compared to Scorpio and Cancer, yes. You can tell the other water signs are hiding it and beneath that is a very high emotional depth. But with Pisces, it's usually not that much.

They're either pathological liars, or, very sensitive people with no backbone.

Does anyone have this with Pisces?

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One of my friends is a Pisces and she's nothing short of amazing. She's very intuitive and honest. She's not spineless in the least bit either, but picks her battles wisely. When she feels that someone has insulted her, she'll politely tell them off and won't leave room for them to doubt what's happening.

You really need to look at the aspects in their chart to say that they're spineless or pathological liars. Mercury in harsh aspect to Neptune (a tight orb) could point to the person being a pathological liar. For courage, I think the Sun and Mars are definite factors and their aspects to planets like Pluto, Saturn and to each other can point to how they stand up for themselves.

posted January 25, 2012 03:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Neptune'sDaughter:
Redscorp you're going to make an entire zodiac sign fall in love with you talking like that! I like it!

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Oh, well, why thank you!

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Originally posted by Lonake:
Nah, just with you.
What a ridiculous thread.

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