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Ceridwen
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posted January 30, 2012 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Amelia,

"Would love to get a chart of my venus-nodes."
You can pick that option here by checking the boxes NNode and SNode on the right side http://www.true-node.com/pos/

Be aware though that the SN and NN of Venus (or any other planet except MOon) will not be exactly opposite each other.
For example my Venusian NN is on 19°23 Capricorn, while my Venusian SN is on 21°54 Sagittarius.

The other nodal charts are surely an intriguing field of study, but I think the lunar nodal chart / Draco will be more significant / more central for at least two reasons:

1. the highlighting of the triad of Sun, Earth and Moon, which is so determinative for life on earth.

2. the SN and NN are exactly opposite so that the same tropical planet will get aspected twice, from the SN Draco and the NN Draco (just in one case it is a conjunction, in the other an opposition).


"bec is a tool to evolving spiritually to our higher self with the help of our soulmates hence why draco-tropical aspects are important."
Yes, to a degree, though the Draconic chart is not the Higher Self chart. It`s a bit tricky when it comes to terminology though, but the Higher Self / spiritual guidance / spiritual overview is being found in the Helio zodiac rather than the Draconic one.
Nevertheless the Draco`s under certain circumstances fuel the spiritual development aiming towards the Higher Self, or being guided by the Higher Self.

In this regard I find these points in a chart most interesting, in which Heliocentric, tropical and Draco planets come together.
Not every chart will have those (those triple conjunctions spanning all three zodiacs will be pretty rare, especially when we only consider personal planets; the outer ones do not move that much, so if a Draco planet conjuncts tropical Pluto, chances are high, Helio Pluto will be close, too); also if we use asteroids the probability increases.


"so what would be the difference between heliocentric charts and nodal charts?"

Heliocentric charts are indicative of a spiritual perspective that is transcending earthly / physical-emotional experiences. Did you ever notice how the transpersonal planets Uranus, Neptune, Pluto do not move that much in helio chart?
Of course there is an astronomical reason - because they are so far away from earth and Sun. But symbolically it indicates that they are like "messengers from the spirit / Higher Self", bringing us these experiences that if we will succeed grwoing with them, we will grow closer to a spiritual perspective, instead of staying focused on everyday-experiences, which are symbolized from the planets closest to earth up to Saturn.

Anyway, the Draconic / nodal chart is still more closely aligned with earth, or the current experience-plane (the physical). The emotional attachment that often comes with Draconic, still influencing the present (tropical).
Often Draco planets will also be indicative of karma and unfinished business between two people, hence the emphasis on past lives, as well as the keyword "soulcontracts" that Blashke used to describe the Draconic zodiac.

From the heliocentric the Earth and the Moon are at the same position, because from the Sun`s perspective they are so close to each other that they appear to be ONE.
Symbolically the emotional and the physical plane are one as well; in the sense that they are interdependent and influencing each other.

The heliocentric is more the perspective from a higher point, like it sees the purpose, to which all these individual physical-emotional (tropical/ Draconic) experiences are necessary.


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posted January 30, 2012 11:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:
Some people here have said that it represents your past incarnation. I have read that it represents soulmates that will help you reach your higher self so people's whose natal aspect your draconic chart help you evolve to your higher self. I THINK I read too somewhere that is your subconscious or higher self.

So which one is it? or what do you think the draconic chart represents??


WHY rely on someone else to help you get the connection to Higher Self. You need to do this yourself. having Reiki or Shamball MDH healing attunement will open up your psychic centres and connection to HS...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5Up6G190LU http://www.facebook.com/#!/worldpujas.haridasbaba

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posted February 02, 2012 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 02, 2012 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
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Many thanks!!!

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posted February 06, 2012 12:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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amelia28
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posted February 06, 2012 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank You Ceridwen!! thanks a lot for ALL the info .

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posted August 06, 2012 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lecheval017     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:

I am virgo sun with moon pisces and venus/mars in leo but my draconic has sun in cancer and moon capricorn and mercury, venus and mars in gemini....

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It would appear that our charts are connected in some strange way.

I'm a cancer sun, capricorn moon, sagittarius ascendant, venus and mars in leo

but draconically, my sun is virgo, my moon is pisces, ascendant in pisces, venus and mars in scorpio.

where are your ascendants placed?

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posted July 24, 2015 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deepseablues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 24, 2015 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, deepseablues.

Ceri, you're a genius.

Great read here ~ thank you.

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posted July 25, 2015 12:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lecheval017:
It would appear that our charts are connected in some strange way.

I'm a cancer sun, capricorn moon, sagittarius ascendant, venus and mars in leo

but draconically, my sun is virgo, my moon is pisces, ascendant in pisces, venus and mars in scorpio.

where are your ascendants placed?


WOW, I just read this message now unfortunately, I am Amelia28.

My tropic ascendant is also Sagittarius but my draconic Ascendant is in Libra at 3 degrees.

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posted July 25, 2015 12:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Amelia,

those are two pretty complimentary conjunctions there. Def. significant stuff.

Wheneer he taps into his Moon, his emotional nature, your "soul-Sun" is being triggered. It is like he activates an energy, that you might not be compeltely conscious about it at all times, but that is a part of your soul nevertheless (I often seen in my own synastries that people see my Draco planets more clearly than I do myself. For example my friend always admired my independence, energy, straightforwardness and so on, which are qualities inherent of my Draco Sun in Aries. I myself would NEVER have described me that way, but through my interaction with her and seeing how she saw me, I discovered, that these qualities INDEED are a part of me).


In this way your husband might be drawn to you emotionally because of these qualities that are inherent in your soul and that you radiate on a subtle, but very real level, even though you might not always understand what he sees in you.

The Draconic placements always remind me of the saying: Become who you are.


Great insight, Become who you are!

Well put, love it.

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posted July 25, 2015 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for UnderworldGlory     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I am going to reply in depth when I have more time today or tomorrow, and I am going to elaborate on the following keywords later on (it`s my own thoughts, and not based on the literature I have read, though it is strongly influenced by what Blashke wrote in "Relationship Analysis").

TROPICAL:
Earth
physical plane / manifestation level
body
present
consciousness


DRACO:
lunar / Moon
emotional plane
soul
past
sub-consciousness

HELIO:
solar / Sun
spiritual plane
spirit
future
supra-consciousness


so ... Would you say that our helio chart is our higher self?

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posted July 27, 2015 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunnya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fantastic insights Ceridwen. Thank you so much.

I am starting to study heliocentric charts now and this is a wonderful starting point.

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