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Topic: sigh.. Conflicting Interpretations - in Love...
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SaggiMC Knowflake Posts: 595 From: UK Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 27, 2012 05:30 PM
quote: I have Mars conj Neptune - I'm wondering if it is similar in some ways?
this can be a toughie and sap your energy levels. I currently have prog mars square neptune and my energy levels have plumeted and nothing but ill health for months ....Mars square Neptune Mars Neptune Square Mars Neptune Opposition Painful things either ignored ie self deception, or hypochondriac type, imaginary things (Neptune) Deceive or be deceived http://www.astrologyindepth.com/Mars_square_Neptune http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13104&page=2 http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11521 http://astrology.astrozoom.com/index.php?title=NEPTUNE_PARALLEL% 2C_CONJUNCTION%2C_SQUARE_OR_OPPOSITION_TO_MARS quote: He also has Venus opp Uranus which I've been reading interpretations for.. but they don't really suit him. I can see him falling in love with a friend.. I can see him having an unconventional relationship (FWB or long distance or something else)... But he really doesn't seem to shun romantic relationships. He is not adverse to the idea. Some interpretations say that Uranus will cause havoc and the person will never be able to have a relationship. It's not true for him! His longest relationship has been 5 years.. which is twice as long as MY longest. He is 32 and I'm 25.
why would venus opp uranus shun relationships. opp are easier than squares and can be seen as *others* and be projected. they simply want bit excitement and freedom within relationships. You never can tell with Uranus, plus his is retrograde inanyevent.. In Equal house system, saturn would be 11th house, which doesn't give lots of friends or acquaintences, perhaps older generation type friends...Jupiter would be 10th Angular Saturn's sign indicates what you find uncomfortable and must learn to manage. Where and how you feel a lack of confidence -- the house position of Saturn defines where you need to establish your skills, an issue you worry about and wish you could depend on ! Saturn in the 11th house Hard to obtain goals and objectives but they can be attained if the person will be patient and willing to work. Have to earn everything with this position of Saturn. If it is done the rewards are great, and life gets better as it advances.Many acquaintances, but few intimates. An unrecognised fear of the demands made due to friendship. Attracted to older people. Saturn may delay but does not deny objectives.You will have a strong sense of responsibility towards friendships, groups and team work. You will seek to know important people in order to advance your status and self ¬confidence by taking notice of their wise advise. You will be cautious concerning your own principles. Social standing very important. These people either keep themselves to themselves or overcome their shyness by joining societies in which social life is centred around a purpose, sometimes political. Friends are often older and more experienced. ------------------ I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.”
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SaggiMC Knowflake Posts: 595 From: UK Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 27, 2012 05:37 PM
quote: This is how I've noticed his chart plays out... His Sun square Saturn is a biggie.. Sometimes he criticises himself too much. But I can understand this having a Capricorn Moon and Sun trine Saturn! He really wants to be responsible and Saturnian in his career, but he doesn't always get there. That being said - he has achieved some interesting things that I'm pretty impressed by, and that required time and commitment - so I guess that shows he is stable in some areas at least!
yes, this is a lack of rapport with father aspect.. sun square saturn http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35609&highlight=saturn+square http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?p=318847#post318847 quote: How else would you interpret Mars/Chiron? I know a guy who has Mercury conjunct Chiron and his sister died tragically when she was young.. I know that Merc rules siblings... so could Chiron conj a planet mean that a person in your life who represents that planet might die?
Chiron is not a 'death' signature and no one can predict death anyways..why not put in a few asteriods Juno, vertex, POF Love Asteroids Eros 433 Pysche 16 Valentine 447 Union 1585 Aphoridte 1388 Lust 4386 Amor 1221 Cupido 763 Karma 3811 Child 4580 am only still learning about these myself.. ------------------ I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.” IP: Logged |
enchantress299 Knowflake Posts: 408 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted January 27, 2012 07:22 PM
Hmm... As much as I have a love/hate relationship with Geminis, I would have to say, it would probably be best if you just keep your eyes wide open. If the guy doesn't have any major red flags going on and you like him, then trust him. Trust him until you have a reason not to (provided you are aware of what's going on). That's always my policy. I think it's silly to let a sun sign or synastry ruin a possibly good relationship. Beware of self-fulfilling prophecies ya know? By the way, the Chiron in the 7th doesn't always mean that relationships are impossible for the person. I have that placement, and though I've had a rough time in relationships, that has mostly been because I keep picking the hard luck cases. It has been a mistake in my own judgement more than anything. Luckily I'm finally starting to learn from my mistakes... The only thing I can say about dating a Gemini is not good, unfortunately. However, I do not think ALL Geminis are like this just because he was. It has been my experience with air signs in general that if they only have one or two placements in air, and the rest is in something like earth or fire, it grounds them quite a bit and they often don't even seem like traditional air signs to me. IP: Logged |
Nine Knowflake Posts: 857 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted January 28, 2012 04:37 PM
Here's a stab in the dark...The pSynastry looks fabulous. There are favorable Sun-Venus conjunctions both ways as well as a Venus-Mars conjunction and trine. With so many fixed personal planets if he likes you he will stay committed. The only thing I don't like about the pSynastry is closest aspect being pVenus conj pMars in Gemini. To me this is the source of the attraction, and I'm no fan of Venus/Mars. As an Aries yourself I'm sure Mars combinations is the spice of life for you. IP: Logged |
tautomer4314 Knowflake Posts: 262 From: Oregon Registered: Dec 2011
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posted January 28, 2012 04:58 PM
I have mercury in gemini conjunct my sun (taurus). I assure you, I am not fickle in my relationships .------------------ It's All Elemental ----- My Chart if relevant IP: Logged |
nordicsoul Knowflake Posts: 543 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted January 29, 2012 06:11 AM
quote: Originally posted by Betty Boop: So what's a girl to do? LOL I've been into astrology for a long time. My gut feeling says he is more like Taurus in relationships. Also, I have an Aries Sun sign - but I am nothing like Aries in romance.. I'm much more earthy like my Taurus Venus and Cappy Mars. I wanted to hear more opinions on this though! Do you guys think your Venus/Mars and possibly Moon have a stronger impact on your romantic personality?
I has moon in gemini but i idenfity more with my venus-mars-sun in cancer. in his case he also has sun in gemini. what is the ruler of his 7th and the aspects in which sign. that may be even more important that the sign of his venus IP: Logged |
nordicsoul Knowflake Posts: 543 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted January 29, 2012 06:13 AM
quote: Originally posted by Betty Boop: I'm concerned because he doesn't only have his Sun in Gemini, but also Mercury!I guess the equivalent of that would be me having Sun *and* Mars conjunct in Aries. So I'm assuming he is still more Geminian than I am Aries-like.. if that makes sense? I don't know why that creeps me out so much ^... but it does. To be fair though - he has not actually done anything yet to give me the impression that he would be fickle.
i have moon/mercury and although i change my mind 100 times when i am in love it tends to be rather cancerian (venus-mars-sun in cancer) ruler of 7 is pluto-mars (pluto in virgo, mars in cancer) IP: Logged |
AscTaurus Knowflake Posts: 316 From: Pretoria, Gauteng,South Africa Registered: May 2009
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posted January 29, 2012 09:18 AM
I have known venus in Taurians and I don't know them to have been the "serious settle down" type.I think at times, the descriptions are merely "switched" from the sign sun as to make the position a little more affiliated with the planet. We all know/understand that Taurus sun and Taurus moon(though very similar) express themselves differently: One is more passive(moon) than the other(sun). So I wouldn't take his Venus as a sure sign of his stability(or lack thereof) as, in my experience, no matter how old the Gemini gets, he/she can still suprise you with a few tricks up their sleeves. Aries may be too intense for Gemini and often their arguments may be because Gemini refuses to grow up and, on the other hand, Aries is being way too demanding! If you get involved with a Gemini, Aries, you'll have to tone down your intensity a lot. I have my Scorpio in Venus and since Scorpio is known for being highly sexed and "serious", I am supposed to be more stable than the average Sag right? Wrong!!! I fear relationships that are too serious and intense and my sex drive is not that great. I also prefer a lot more space and aloneness than suggested by the Venus in Scorpio descriptions. In the end, my Sun sign wins -as far as at he romantic nature is concerned.
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Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 2428 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 29, 2012 03:15 PM
Thanks everyone!!!!SaggyMC - Sorry to hear you have been unwell! Sending you lots of positive energy! This might sound like silly advice... but have you tried swimming? I don't know the nature of your health problems.. but personally - with my Mars/Nept conj - swimming has always gotten me out of any pickle. Somehow I feel energized around water - mainly when I'm at near the sea or near the ocean. I will have a look at the asteroids and post his chart again! quote: why would venus opp uranus shun relationships. opp are easier than squares and can be seen as *others* and be projected.
That's interesting. I've definitely projected my Pluto in the past (in my Ven/Pluto opposition) enchantress - quote: It has been my experience with air signs in general that if they only have one or two placements in air, and the rest is in something like earth or fire, it grounds them quite a bit and they often don't even seem like traditional air signs to me.
I completely agree. He's very Taurean-ish in appearance as well. He's kind of sturdy, rather than 'wiry' like Gemini. I like your advice.. You're right that I really shouldn't distrust him unless he gives me a reason Nine - It's soooooooooo nice of you to check our progressed charts (and I didn't even have to ask!). Now that you brought this to my attention - I actually looked it up as well and it's interesting that the Venus/Mars conj becomes exact in composite in 2019/2020. I read on a different thread that it is better to have applying aspects, rather than separating ones in progressed... because the intensity of the aspect gets stronger as it gets closer and then fades gradually. Does this mean that our Venus/Mars will get more and more intense until 2019? lol Tautomer Nordicsoul - I'm the same! I have Cancer AC/Cap Moon/Pisces Merc/Taurus Venus/Cap Mars.. I basically identify with everything more than I do with my Sun - in romance.. There are other areas of my life where I can be competitive like Aries. But I'm so calm and easy-going when I'm in love.
ASCTaurus - It sounds like you had negative experiences with Taurus Venus. Personally - I have Taurus Venus trine Mars.. He has Taurus Venus conjunct Mars... so our Mars is supportive of our *Venus*. Maybe the ones you have known had a negative Venus/Mars aspect or other issues..? My idea of the perfect date is having a picnic by a nice lake, somewhere in nature... I love being outside and I love calm environments. Everything about me is like - cookies and cream - in love lol... so very much unlike Aries energy. I am neither interesting nor dramatic.. Some would find me boring but I'm just comfortable in my own skin and very relaxed. I see him as similar.
Maybe you feel more like Sagittarius due to the rest of your chart. I mean we have several aspects/placements that are "unlike" our Sun Sign.. It's not just Venus. Where are your Moon/Mars by the way? quote: If you get involved with a Gemini, Aries, you'll have to tone down your intensity a lot.
This is funny because I always read this kind of thing... But with my Capricorn Moon + Mars/Nept conj in Cappy.... I think 80% of the population is more intense than I am. I'm actually worried that I'm not intense enough for him... IP: Logged |
Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 2428 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 29, 2012 03:24 PM
Actually being a Sag with Scorpio Venus... do you find it easy to have a fling? To just have sex with anyone for fun? Or do you take sex more seriously?Sagittarius energy is very 'out there' sexually and a Sagittarius Venus might be promiscuous. Usually Scorpio Venus wants an emotional connection - not just sex. quote: fear relationships that are too serious and intense and my sex drive is not that great. I also prefer a lot more space and aloneness than suggested by the Venus in Scorpio descriptions.
Scorpio can be a loner sometimes though... They can shut down. Sagittarius is more extroverted - the party type. IP: Logged |
Nine Knowflake Posts: 857 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted January 30, 2012 05:53 PM
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I read on a different thread that it is better to have applying aspects, rather than separating ones in progressed... because the intensity of the aspect gets stronger as it gets closer and then fades gradually.
Yes, that is true. quote: Does this mean that our Venus/Mars will get more and more intense until 2019? lol
Aha. By that time your Sun-Venus conjunctions (one in Taurus, one in Gemini) should step up to replace the intense sexual stage of you relationship...assuming you survive the heat of Venus & Mars. IP: Logged |