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sand
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posted January 29, 2012 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 29, 2012 01:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm confused as to what it is you're asking!

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posted January 29, 2012 01:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^oh sorry hehe! basically if it is seen in the chart whether one is competitive with siblings/ close relatives..

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posted January 29, 2012 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neptune'sDaughter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would think that Cap there on your third house (which rules siblings) would make your relationship with siblings somewhat business like and having to with status and career, although I would also think the relationship would entail some responsibility on at least one side of the relationship. Also that house's traditional ruler mercury, is in Aries: competition. It is also in your sixth house: work/job. Leo in your tenth would color your dramatic and grandiose in needing career attention anyways lol. What aspects does your mercury make to saturn? (trad 3rd ruler with natal 3rd ruler) what aspects do these two make to your sixth and tenth houses? Oh yeah! Merc is also the trad ruler of sixth too! So maybe cross check aspects to merc and mars (natal sixth ruler) and saturn and mars too. Leo on tenth would touch your sun which is who you are and your moon there is your emotions so you definitely tie in how you feel about yourself and your career together. I would think that the moon there would signify a need to make your mom proud through career too which is another cause for rivalry. Also your sun in yoyr seventh but leo in tenth would tie yoyr career to one on one relationships. So I'd check your sun and moon against the merc and saturn too.

Let me see what else..

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posted January 29, 2012 01:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neptune'sDaughter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ooo I see your MC is actually cancer but I think that would just enforce the home/family/mother case more because there is so much leo there still that needs that cancerian attention.

Also, all of your work related houses 2,6,10 are in fire signs: they don't like being behind competition. Your relationship house 3,7,11 for siblings, partners, friends are all in earth signs which will lend the earth sign habit of a bit of status, security, and affluence wanting to color those areas.

Are you the eldest? With Cap on the third but merc in Aries I would think being younger might be difficult for you because with Aries merc you are not going to want to take a backseat to your siblings although the responsibility and acclaim quite traditionally falls ob the eldest. If you are the eldest then all of these things would be heightened as it is what is traditionally expected and what you'd probably want. Cap ob the third def wants respect from siblings I think.

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posted January 29, 2012 01:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neptune'sDaughter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ooo ooo oo I gotta nother one! Lol You have saturn in scorpio which rules eighth house: other peoples money traditionally -in your chart it rules your third:siblings. So you may be concerned with your siblings dollas yo. ALSOOO, your natal eighth is in Gemini that rules the third traditionally which is siblings. So I see this as a mutual receotion of sorts. Maybe you feel this push of needing to excel forward in regards to family and money/career because your NN is here in eighth and Gemi? It wikk be a sore spot too because you have chiron in gemini which ties your wounds to communication/siblings/ writing voice..

It seems that your job and career are very interrelated with your family and how you feel about yourself and your relationships. I also see a strong tie to communication, activity (fire signs) and creativity (moon/leo/cancer). Maybe utilizing creativity and communication will help you excek in career and family at same time? Thus gaining respect you need? I would think NN in Gemi would say there is something of your siblings you need to grow into this lifetime?

I just remembered your mars is in your first. This is tied to your merc (siblings) your sixth (work) but in scorp it is tied traditionally to eighth -again other people's money and where you natally have Gemini. I need to check where your Saturn's at.

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posted January 29, 2012 02:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neptune'sDaughter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok yeah Saturn in the first and yet the natal ruler of your third. Mars in the first and also the natal ruler of your merc sign. This makes me think that a large part of your outer shell/way you want others to see you has a lot to do with your siblings. May you really want people to see you as more responsible and of a bit of a higher status (Capricorn) then your siblings? Also as more of a 'go-getter' and initiator then they are? In the reverse this would also seem to mean that you think the way your siblings are reflects on you and so maybe you need them to be successful career-wise so that it looks good on you? Like, you want to be the winner and hate to lose but you don't want them to be total losers either because that would inevitably ruin some of your 'shiny' status you worked for? Lol

Also your SN opposing the sign of siblings and in your secind house your 'own' money I guess could add some tension -esp. With your kuh-RAY-zee uranus singleton there lol You probably prefer or find it easier to live life finding ways to make your own money versus trying to communicate to siblings how to share money? Lol

Ok let me see what you say first before I find anything else lol

Ya know- ya kinda seem like an only child, Sand!

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posted January 29, 2012 02:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neptune'sDaughter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ooo ooo oo I gotta nother one! Lol You have saturn in scorpio which rules eighth house: other peoples money traditionally -in your chart it rules your third:siblings. So you may be concerned with your siblings dollas yo. ALSOOO, your natal eighth is in Gemini that rules the third traditionally which is siblings. So I see this as a mutual receotion of sorts. Maybe you feel this push of needing to excel forward in regards to family and money/career because your NN is here in eighth and Gemi? It wikk be a sore spot too because you have chiron in gemini which ties your wounds to communication/siblings/ writing voice..

It seems that your job and career are very interrelated with your family and how you feel about yourself and your relationships. I also see a strong tie to communication, activity (fire signs) and creativity (moon/leo/cancer). Maybe utilizing creativity and communication will help you excek in career and family at same time? Thus gaining respect you need? I would think NN in Gemi would say there is something of your siblings you need to grow into this lifetime?

I just remembered your mars is in your first. This is tied to your merc (siblings) your sixth (work) but in scorp it is tied traditionally to eighth -again other people's money and where you natally have Gemini. I need to check where your Saturn's at.

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posted January 29, 2012 02:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 29, 2012 02:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neptune'sDaughter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Then why'd you say siblings?! Half siblings can count you spoilt only child lmbo I don't have any full blood siblings but we NEVER thought that way growing up. Actually, lol, we almost jumped a neighbor kid who was the first to point out we were half siblings lol. We were all raised together though.

Yeah I do readings by feeling -why I kept feeling you were an only kid kinda lol! Oy. You, Sand... If they feel like siblings to you in your life, I say they count -just like guardians who take the place of parents sometimes in readings. It actually can make the yearning toward a Gemi NN make more sense in a way to me..


EDIT: Ahh Cap on the third, Saturn being restriction: restriction on siblings/no siblings (Cap being the opp of fertile Cancer). got it.
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posted January 29, 2012 03:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 29, 2012 04:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neptune'sDaughter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So did any of that resonate, or am not connecting with that aries merc?

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posted January 29, 2012 06:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 29, 2012 06:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Neptune'sDaughter:
Ooo ooo oo I gotta nother one! Lol You have saturn in scorpio which rules eighth house: other peoples money traditionally -in your chart it rules your third:siblings. So you may be concerned with your siblings dollas yo. ALSOOO, your natal eighth is in Gemini that rules the third traditionally which is siblings. So I see this as a mutual receotion of sorts. Maybe you feel this push of needing to excel forward in regards to family and money/career because your NN is here in eighth and Gemi? It wikk be a sore spot too because you have chiron in gemini which ties your wounds to communication/siblings/ writing voice..

It seems that your job and career are very interrelated with your family and how you feel about yourself and your relationships. I also see a strong tie to communication, activity (fire signs) and creativity (moon/leo/cancer). Maybe utilizing creativity and communication will help you excek in career and family at same time? Thus gaining respect you need? I would think NN in Gemi would say there is something of your siblings you need to grow into this lifetime?


if i didn't have any siblings, how would you read the 3rd-8th house thingy?

i currently do not work for family (if that is what you mean). communication/ creativity are indeed big players in my field so yep!

really? that's what the north node in gemini in my chart says to you? well i really may not accomplish my north node this lifetime lol! just kidding! i could make an effort but iz not the natural way of things with me. inneresting my dad's stellium would fall in my 2nd house and some personal planets may for sure conjunct my south node.

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posted January 29, 2012 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would attribute wanting to be #1 in the family to -

Leo Moon conjunct MC Cancer/opposed IC Capricorn.
with Capricorn planets in the 3rd

Leo Moon H10 - Can cause the person to feel most comfortable when they are on top or the center of attention.

conjunct

Cancer MC - Can relate personal achievement to the past, memories, relationship with mother, or home and family.

opposed

Capricorn IC - Emotional and psychological foundations can be based on having felt a need to accomplish something or be worthy of acceptance through personal works. Childhood may have been an environment where the native was forced to grow up quickly or expected to take on a higher level of responsibility than most people their age. This could also indicate a childhood environment which required the native to be resourceful in order to gain praise or attention.

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Capricorn rules your 3rd house (and even if Sagittarius ruled your 3rd House, both its ruling planets are found in your 3rd) and draws its energy from your 10th, which contains that Leo Moon. The 3rd House rules how we communicate and the family or groups of people who helped us develop our style of communication. Having Neptune and Jupiter in the 3rd can seem like a struggle for volume. The native can be seen as either too quiet or too overbearing and may need serious practice to find the right intensity at which to communicate their self. If one felt muted by family members in childhood and needed to be "Big" or "Loud" in order to be recognized, this could also cause competition when family situations arise in later life.

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