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Topic: Pluto's Charisma
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Geminisquared
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From: nyc
Registered: Nov 2011
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posted January 31, 2012 08:40 PM
  
My dad had venus conjunct pluto and mars. Hes the most charismatic person I have ever seen. He used his charms to get through life. top it all of its in leo. Its all superficial thouIP: Logged |
alaz7200
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Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 01, 2012 01:43 AM
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Originally posted by Geminisquared:
My dad had venus conjunct pluto and mars. Hes the most charismatic person I have ever seen. He used his charms to get through life. top it all of its in leo. Its all superficial thou
Wow, all that Pluto/Leo energy sounds exceedingly charismatic. Care to elaborate? What makes him so?? IP: Logged |
DayandNight21
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posted February 01, 2012 02:39 AM
Lonake,
I agree that Oprah is a very charismatic lady, I would put it down to her venus cazimi, and venus in aquarius, the cazimi is so rare and in her case so powerful. I agree that a strong sun = charisma, by sign or by house, for instance sun in 5th house.
and that pluto can go both ways, like a magnet, attraction and repulusion, more obsessive. Neptune STRONG would be having a powerful aura which is sometimes confused with charisma. So yes POWERFUL SUN = CHARISMA. IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero
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From: Storybrooke, Mr. Gold's Shop
Registered: Sep 2011
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posted February 01, 2012 04:29 AM
I have Pluto in the 12th, in Scorpio, conjunct Venus. I also have a grand trine in water.I don't feel like I am charismatic or 'sexy' or appealing to people. I have a Libra sun/Mercury and a fire sign ascendant, and that doesn't help either. At best, I feel invisible a lot of the time, and at worst, creepy perverts bother me. I don't really feel like people see me as 'special' or that I have some kind of special charm, like I'm supposed to have. IP: Logged |
Venus
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posted February 01, 2012 04:43 AM
i have prominant pluto also prominant saturn so i dunno wich shows more..(i have stellums in both capricorn and scorpio also have saturn in cap and pluto in scorp) all i do know is i almost always give a good first impression.. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted February 01, 2012 05:06 AM
Bill Clinton is said to be very charismatic.
Which isn't surprising: loaded 1st, strong outer planet influnces, strong Fire, etc.Edit: I can't post his chart.. Anyway, I agree with the people who said that strong Pluto doesn't necessarily make someone charismatic, that's more the domain of fire signs/houses, and Neptune. IP: Logged |
sand
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Registered: May 2011
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posted February 01, 2012 12:01 PM
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Originally posted by Chironrising:
Personally I think Charm comes from hypnotizing someone...and if that's the case then it's the asteroid hypnos....of course there are a million ways and places to be charming...we can't simply say it's the first house because there are millions of people with first house placements that are anything but charming...It depends what we view as charming too, as for a majority of youth at a time though marilyn manson was charming...so here we are again full circle...we can't make blanket statements about one planet or aspect.
what should hypnos be doing in their chart? conjunct sun or moon or on an angle? IP: Logged |
Chironrising
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From: Chicago, IL, USA
Registered: Dec 2011
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posted February 01, 2012 01:31 PM
I would go by the house and sign....if the person speaks hypnotically but is dramatic check out the leo sign on the third house with hypnos...or if the person is hypnotic when they are operating from a level check that level by sign and house...is it intense - scorpio....is it only at work? Sixth house...etc..aspects move this energy about...like piplines.... IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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From: Surfing Kite. Seriously.
Registered: Aug 2010
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posted February 01, 2012 01:57 PM
Hypnos is god of sleep...IP: Logged |
alaz7200
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Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 01, 2012 02:04 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Chironrising:
I would go by the house and sign....if the person speaks hypnotically but is dramatic check out the leo sign on the third house with hypnos...or if the person is hypnotic when they are operating from a level check that level by sign and house...is it intense - scorpio....is it only at work? Sixth house...etc..aspects move this energy about...like piplines....
Thanks for the information on Hypnos! That's always my intention in initiating Topics: to find missing pieces to the puzzle.
Question for you- I've got Moon conjunct Hypnos in the 8th House, both in Gemini. What could this mean? IP: Logged |
sand
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posted February 01, 2012 02:06 PM
ahh i have hypnos in cancer h9 sextile sun..IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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From: Surfing Kite. Seriously.
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posted February 01, 2012 02:33 PM
For the love of sanity,you can't just interpret asteroid in way that best suits you.Yes,word hypnotic has its root in Hypnos,but it has passed the meaning connection long time ago!!! IP: Logged |
Geminisquared
Knowflake Posts: 630
From: nyc
Registered: Nov 2011
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posted February 01, 2012 07:11 PM
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Originally posted by alaz7200:
Wow, all that Pluto/Leo energy sounds exceedingly charismatic. Care to elaborate? What makes him so??
Its amazing seeing him socialize with people. People genuinely like him and just are drawn to him. He has uranus and sun in the first house. also he has his moon in libra which conjuncts neptune. Hes is certainly the center of attention. I'm a bit jealous of that, he out shines everyone around him... :P IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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Registered: Aug 2010
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posted February 01, 2012 07:23 PM
^ That's Leo thing,only backed by indomitable Pluto.(cuz Pluto doesn't shine )IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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From: Surfing Kite. Seriously.
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posted February 01, 2012 07:23 PM
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