posted January 31, 2012 06:02 PM            

12th house Moon in Pisces (conjunct Ascendant): singleton, bucket handle
Aspects: Moon conjunct Asc. from 12H (orb of 6)
Moon sesquisquare singleton Sun (orb of 1)
Moon square Saturn (orb of 1.2)
Moon trine singleton Neptune (orb of 9)

5th house Sun in Cancer: singleton, only planet in personal sign
Aspects: Sun sesquisquare singleton Moon (orb of 1)
Sun sextile singleton Jupiter (orb of 3)
Sun sesquisquare Saturn (exact)

7th house Jupiter in Virgo: Two times singleton—by element (only earth), and by house (only Angular)
Aspect: Jupiter sextile singleton Sun (orb of 3)

8th house Neptune in Libra (critical degree-29 Libra): singleton by element (only air)
8th house begins at 29 Libra 42’, Neptune is at 29 Libra 50’
Aspects: Neptune trine bucket handle Moon (orb of 9—I know it’s a bit wide but I included it ‘cause of Moon which is also a singleton-see above)
Neptune sextile Pluto (orb of less than 1)
Neptune square singleton Sun (orb of 6-7). Is this too wide to matter?

Thank you.

posted January 31, 2012 10:23 PM            

I am puzzled by the multiple singletons in one chart and would like to understand how they impact...

So, here's hoping it doesn't get moved...

posted February 01, 2012 08:41 AM            

I don't know how either the sun or moon could be singleton if they are trine. Or should I say, very *significantly* singelton.

posted February 01, 2012 10:02 AM              

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I think Neptune square Mercury/Uranus (orb of 7) and Pluto square Saturn (orb of >9) don't really have much effect, so I'm not considering these wide orbs as impactful. I hope that is right.

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posted February 01, 2012 10:11 AM              

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Originally posted by Faith:
Hi there!

I don't know how either the sun or moon could be singleton if they are trine. Or should I say, very *significantly* singelton.

But I would guess that the moon will be dominant as the bucket handle and ruler of your sun on top of that.

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singletons are not defined by aspects, perhaps you are confusing 'unaspected' with singletons maybe?

You have two singletons Neptune and Jupiter...
quite often singletons lack an element and in yours it's AIR and EARTH, but then we have to look see how YOU compensate or over compensate. We see mars,venus and pluto in earth house 6th and air we only see jupiter in 7th air house. So yes the lacking element would be air in this case. I have lack of air (just mars/gemini) but I have 4planets in air houses plus air Asc. So this lack tends towards (on occasions) to sweeping statements without enough thougth behind speech patterns...

I also have Neptune singleton, so will delinate mine, see if you can identify

As my Neptune singleton to ,will comment as follows---
now my neptune (0' critical degree) is 9th conj 10th cusp (not MC) in Equal house system. I feel (singletons) suggests this planet has 'more importance' and acts bit like the handle on a bucket chart or funnel for other energies. I have Neptune in Scorpio conj 10th house cusp opp sun/moon and as we know scorpio always wants deep and meaningful and is great for research, digging and delving into 'spiritual matters' (in my case) and working with spirit but always wanting more, or wanting things quicker(communications,symbols,messages), but never getting it, which has been a major frustration disillusionment -- typical Neptune rose tinted glasses.

We all think we can do better and push for better, but when the control (scorpio) is not in our hands ie: others then my theory/idea is 'serve or suffer' give in without reservation and accept you cannot limit, change or expect how others (spirit) want to or will work with me. Hope this makes sense

So think of the sign Scorpio - how this modifies Neptune, where is house (mine was 9th house of religion higher learning) and aspects is how neptune functions as in my case opposition to sun and moon, trine mars and generational square to Uranus. My Neptune opp sun/moon are also parts of *cradle* configuration

"When Neptune is a singleton (or angular, highly aspected, or at a critical degree, 29 or 0), there is a likelihood that the person will have an extraordinary degree of sensitivity. They may be so highly intuitive that they believe they have “psychic powers.” The sensitivity operates on all levels. In the physical, it can correlate with such maladies as “environmental sensitivity,” allergies of all kinds as well as a variety of autoimmune diseases. Narcolepsy (a sleep disorder), and vision problems are Neptunian afflictions. On the mental/emotional level, a person may be sensitive to “higher realms,” and experience mystical inspiration or insane delusions." http://www.astrologyclub.org/

Additionally, your moon is handle for bucket chart, which acts bit like a funnel for all emotions within your chart. similar to singleton, but being in 12th the MOST cadent/hidden you may find it a little hard to get at this..

Quite often moon in 12th suggests some form of resentment towards mother, for whatever reason. Could be smother loved OR emotionally neglected or anything inbetween. We need to look how moon is aspected to see how it functions...Here you have a tight square to saturn, this shows financial hardships that mother (and prob you) in early childhood and learning to be cautious about expressing emotions.

Basic astrology forum, retrogrades,Unaspected & Singletons http://www.linda-goodman.com/cgi-bin/ubb/forumdisplay.cgi?action=topics&forum=Basic+Astrology&number=12&DaysPrune=

Basic astrology forum, Aspect Patterns http://www.linda-goodman.com/cgi-bin/ubb/forumdisplay.cgi?action=topics&forum=Basic+Astrology&number=12&DaysPrune=

posted February 01, 2012 10:15 AM            

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singletons are not defined by aspects, perhaps you are confusing 'unaspected' with singletons maybe?

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posted February 01, 2012 10:20 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
When they are trine, they are in the same element, so...not to bicker with you too much but... reconsider that.

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posted February 01, 2012 10:26 AM            

My sun feels very singleton to me because it's the only earth sign. Straightforward.

posted February 01, 2012 12:06 PM            

Faith,

"I don't know how either the sun or moon could be singleton if they are trine."

Moon at 9 Pisces 37' and Sun at 23 Cancer 19 are actually sesisquare (135 degrees w/ orb of 1) instead of trine. My apologies for the chart pic. This is the clearest is could make it.

So, according to what I've read, this would make Sun a singleton since it is the only planet in a personal sign (personal signs being 1 thro'4--Aries thro' Cancer).

"But I would guess that the moon will be dominant as the bucket handle and ruler of your sun on top of that. "

posted February 01, 2012 12:17 PM            

"This goes back to the debate about what signifies a "singleton." Being the only planet in a specific element is one part of it, but another interpretation/aspect of it is when one planet is alone in one hemisphere or side of the chart. The moon in this case isn't the only water, but is the only planet occupying the left half of the chart, so can be considered a singleton. It depends on how you define "singleton" though."

Here's what I came across in my readings on several sites (am listing only one here)-- http://www.astrologyclub.org/articles/singletons/intro/singleton_intro.htm

Singleton planet consideration is based on the following-
"* Polarity: (Positive/Negative or Yang/Yin)
* Modality: (Cardinal, Fixed, Mutable)
* Element: (Fire, Air, Water, Earth)
* Orientation by Sign: Personal, Social and Universal
* Orientation by House: Personal, Social and Universal"

"The first three are the most familiar and commonly used categories for the signs and their corresponding houses (i. e. Aries, first house)"

In addition to this, several sites claim that if a planet is the only one in one half of the chart, it is also a singleton, or behaves like one.

posted February 01, 2012 12:38 PM            

Since I know the chart owner fairly well I should be able to answer your question on relating.

But before I do that , based on the additional info I've provided in my posts (and editing)do you still think it is only Jupiter and Neptune as singletons?

"Additionally, your moon is handle for bucket chart, which acts bit like a funnel for all emotions within your chart. similar to singleton, but being in 12th the MOST cadent/hidden you may find it a little hard to get at this.."

posted February 01, 2012 01:10 PM            

Questions wrt the chart above:

1) Does Jupiter in detriment (Virgo) get a boost, become more effective ‘cause it’s a singleton two times over?

2) Does Neptune become a singleton twice ‘cause it’s the only air AS WELL AS it is at a critical degree (29 Libra)?

3) Since Neptune is a singleton, do aspects to it (other than w/ Sun and Moon) matter if the orbs are between 6-7 degrees? i.e., do wider orbs take on a greater importance simply because Neptune is a singleton?

4) Is the paucity of earth in this chart overcome by 5 planets in a fixed sign, almost all of which (except Pluto) trine Saturn?

5) Is the paucity of air in this chart overcome by Mercury conjunct Uranus (exact) and both trine Saturn (orb of 2)?

6) Most Importantly: Is the effect of singleton Moon square Saturn (1.2 orb) reduced by any of the other singletons?

7) Lastly, in considering a chart, how important are singletons? Do they come before or after planet signs, planet houses, planet aspects. What should be the order?

posted February 01, 2012 02:43 PM            

"My vote goes to Neptune!"

posted February 01, 2012 02:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Linda Jones:
Thanks, VenusDiSirius,

"My vote goes to Neptune!"

Would you mind explaining why you excluded the others? Thanks

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posted February 01, 2012 03:17 PM            

"Choice is between Jupiter and Neptune,Jupiter is in element of its exile"

So then my question is--
Does Jupiter in detriment (Virgo) get a boost, become more effective ‘cause it’s a singleton two times over?

Also, how important are singletons? Do they come before or after planet signs, planet houses, planet aspects. What should be the order?

posted February 01, 2012 03:27 PM            

I only use singletons defined by element,but your method,and deductions are not faulty. But the effect may not as strong.

posted February 01, 2012 03:51 PM            

Thanks for explaining.

"I only use singletons defined by element,but your method,and deductions are not faulty. But the effect may not as strong."

I see. Yes, I did wonder about the overall effect.

"Singleton is like potentially wild kid,but with glaring desire for attention. This can fit to any singled planet in chart."

I now understand it better.

"sorry if metaphor doesn't satisfy you,but my mind loves that way,astrology is made of symbols"

posted February 01, 2012 05:50 PM            

Here's another question, if you wouldn't mind answering--

Since Neptune is a singleton, do aspects to it (other than w/ Sun and Moon) matter if the orbs are between 6-7 degrees? i.e., do wider orbs take on a greater importance simply because Neptune is a singleton?

Do you have any other thoughts on any of the other ques. I posted (ques 1 thro' 7)?

posted February 01, 2012 08:20 PM            

"Why do say Moon is singleton?"

Because several sites claim that if a planet is the only one in one half of the chart i.e., alone in one hemisphere, it is also a singleton, or behaves like one. My apologies if my terminology is incorrect.

"In my experience,Sun,Moon,Merc can form wide aspects,but I don't know whether if it would be of any bigger influence,when in aspect to a singleton (that is,I can't remember any good example at the moment )"

Thanks, I understand.

So if the energy of the chart is being "funneled" thro' the moon, and the moon has a tight "cap" on it i.e., square Saturn, does it mean that Neptune's energy and all the other planets' energy will be filtered through the perspective of this "cap"? What do you think?

posted February 01, 2012 10:41 PM            

"Many thanks for posting your chart."

I should be the one thanking you since I'm learning from you. So...right back atya

"I have lack of air (just mars/gemini) but I have 4planets in air houses plus air Asc. So this lack tends towards (on occasions) to sweeping statements without enough thougth behind speech patterns..."

Hugs to you for sharing this, although I don't see you lacking in your thinking at all. You're a store house of information which you always (amazingly) seem to have ready at hand.

Now, at the risk of trying your patience, could I bother you for more information?
Do you mind taking a stab at these questions below (all or as many as you can) and letting me know what you think?

1) Does Jupiter in detriment (Virgo) get a boost, become more effective ‘cause it’s a singleton two times over?

2) Does Neptune become a singleton twice ‘cause it’s the only air AS WELL AS it is at a critical degree (29 Libra)?

3) Since Neptune is a singleton, do aspects to it (other than w/ Sun and Moon) matter if the orbs are between 6-7 degrees? i.e., do wider orbs take on a greater importance simply because Neptune is a singleton?

4) Is the lack of earth in this chart overcome by 5 planets in a fixed sign, almost all of which (except Pluto) trine Saturn?

5) Is the lack of air in this chart overcome by Mercury conjunct Uranus (exact) and both trine Saturn (orb of 2)?

6) Most Importantly: Is the effect of singleton Moon square Saturn (1.2 orb) reduced by any of the other singletons?

7) Lastly, in considering a chart, how important are singletons? Do they come before or after planet signs, planet houses, planet aspects. What should be the order?

Thank you ever so much for your time.

posted February 02, 2012 02:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Linda Jones:
Because several sites claim that if a planet is the only one in one half of the chart i.e., alone in one hemisphere, it is also a singleton, or behaves like one. My apologies if my terminology is incorrect. [QUOTE]

That's only confusing,you just focus on the part Moon does in a configuration,and observe it in that light

[QUOTE]So if the energy of the chart is being "funneled" thro' the moon, and the moon has a tight "cap" on it i.e., square Saturn, does it mean that Neptune's energy and all the other planets' energy will be filtered through the perspective of this "cap"? What do you think?

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Yes,Moon is the star