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Xiiro
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posted February 03, 2012 12:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here seems to be more scientific evidence of astrology having an effect on humans. Additionally the technique is pretty awesome!

Enjoy
http://astrologynewsservice.com/articles/unique-study-links-venus-to-romantic-choices-people-make/

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posted February 03, 2012 12:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for birdy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How weird. I found that randomly yesterday and was going to post it. Thanks for posting it. Good article.

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posted February 03, 2012 12:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by birdy:
How weird. I found that randomly yesterday and was going to post it. Thanks for posting it. Good article.

I stumbled upon this article fairly soon after the story was posted. I admit I was hoarding it while I played around with secondary progressions. I decided tonight I would put my selfish ways aside and share. Thank you for not posting it, so I could feel a bit of absolution for withholding from my fellow astrophiles. =D

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posted February 03, 2012 01:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I LOVE Paul Westran`s study.
I have read his book "when stars collide" some years ago, and it was so illuminating. I did not pay much attention to sec. progr. before, but have been testing his theory since then, and it has never failed even ONCE (though I must admit that I added the ASC and DESC as Mars- and Venus-points - but with this addition, no fail so far!)

We have had some discussions about this going on here a few years ago. maybe I will find the links, for the interested.

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posted February 03, 2012 01:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my own observations - and I do not particularly like that- also lead me to believe more and more, that no matter how wonderful a natal synastry looks, the relationship will not get off the ground, unless there is fitting progressed synastry or - though I still have to reasearch this- unless the attraction-points in the natal synastry are being illuminated by strong transits.

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posted February 03, 2012 07:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ I tend to agree.

For my own synastry tho I see patterns, they all have a Sun/Saturn aspect, and a Venus or Mars to Pluto. And their Venus is usually in aspect to more than one outer planet, same for their Moon.
I might have good synastry with someone but if their natal doesn't have somewhat similar chart dynamics as my own, no matter how much 'attraction' it's a no-go.

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posted February 03, 2012 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls**     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I already subscribe to this theory It also works for Venus/Mars (my current relationship has progressed Venus/Mars).

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posted February 03, 2012 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Terrific, thanks for posting this, Xiiro.

Any chance for an almost beginner like me (who understands the basics of astrology) to be able to learn how to do progressions? Would this article be sufficient? Any other sites?

Thanks. I'd appreciate any tips, guidance.

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posted February 03, 2012 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Linda Jones, go to astro.com, select Horoscope Drawings & Calculations, Extended Chart Selection and scroll down to "Progressions" in the bar. You can draw a chart just with progressed planets for any day you want or combined with the natal chart and transits.

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posted February 03, 2012 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Linda Jones:
Terrific, thanks for posting this, Xiiro.

Any chance for an almost beginner like me (who understands the basics of astrology) to be able to learn how to do progressions? Would this article be sufficient? Any other sites?

Thanks. I'd appreciate any tips, guidance.


Here are some good resources:
http://www.cafeastrology.com/secondaryprogressions.html

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/010692.html

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/202062.html

SaggiMC also shared the following links on this thread - http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/211950.html :
http://cafeastrology.com/secondaryprogressions.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_progression http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/progressions.html http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=67 http://www.khaldea.com/rudhyar/astroarticles/progressionsinastrology.php http://astrolmass.com/progressions.htm http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_transits_e.htm http://skywriter.wordpress.com/2011/01/27/the-progressed-moon-through-the-12-houses/

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posted February 03, 2012 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Doux Rêve!!!!

And Xiro!!!!

I love LL for all the helpful people and assistance yoall give!!

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posted February 03, 2012 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreamy_AriesGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
[B]my own observations - and I do not particularly like that- also lead me to believe more and more, that no matter how wonderful a natal synastry looks, the relationship will not get off the ground, unless there is fitting progressed synastry or - though I still have to reasearch this- unless the attraction-points in the natal synastry are being illuminated by strong transits.

I agree, it's my observation too.

Also, I realized that composite charts are extremely important too and they do tell a LOT about a relationship. It's almost scary how much. And not just the chart itself, but also the aspects that the composite planets makes with the natal planets/angles.


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posted February 03, 2012 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Linda Jones, go to astro.com, select Horoscope Drawings & Calculations, Extended Chart Selection and scroll down to "Progressions" in the bar. You can draw a chart just with progressed planets for any day you want or combined with the natal chart and transits.

is it possible to do a sinastry of th eprogressed chart in astro.com? i mean, can i do directly without having to create a file with the progressed file for each one and then create the sinastry?

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posted February 04, 2012 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read this about the *squares* in prog. synastry;

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Squares are evident in two ways in progressed synastry - first they prevent relationships from properly forming by keeping people apart and secondly they arrive in established relationships and drive couples apart. This article examines both phenomena by looking at romances which failed and were then rekindled and by looking at relationships which failed.

http://www.positiveastrology.com/Articles/Squares_in_action.asp


I want to say something positive about the progressed Sun/Venus (etc.) squares.

I think for some 'people/couples' it can be sort of a blessing to have the squares in their progressed synastry. Let's say if they're both not capable (by circumstances, past hurt etc.) to form a proper relationship and also both AWARE of that, but... with the big appreciation to see each other once in a while (the attraction-reality of the squares) and so to feel truly at peace with this form of unconventional connection. It can mean the WORLD to some people is what I mean

ps;

About my own case:
Lifelong (from the moment we met) we're burdened with Sun/venus squares and venus/mars squares.. not one positive nor opp. aspect between the biggies. Great!


another ps (later);

I just see that when I wrote the above I got a textmessage from him (we rarely do that) .. that's really funny and likely no coincidence because I believe we pick up these (positive) energy vibrations in a way... such a sweet message and even sweeter than ever

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posted February 04, 2012 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Linda Jones:
Terrific, thanks for posting this, Xiiro.

Any chance for an almost beginner like me (who understands the basics of astrology) to be able to learn how to do progressions? Would this article be sufficient? Any other sites?

Thanks. I'd appreciate any tips, guidance.



I was going to give you some links but a kind member already gave you my links...


progressed planets/charts are more 'internal' changes, evolvements rather than 'events or external' matters. I don't read prog charts as stand alones it's more important to see where these planets are moving in the natal chart

Your natal chart is like a photograph as unique as your fingerprint, BUT the 10planets in the sky have not stayed where they were in your natal chart, they have all moved. Predictive astrology is mostly maths where those 10planets are now and the mathematical aspects they make to your natal charts ie: 180'=opposition, 90'=square, 60'=sextile and 120'=trine.

So your personality, grows, develops, changes, matures as we get older, this is reflected by your sun sign changing from it's natal position to the next sign along, so does your Asc and MC sign change. In fact from sun to mars especially are important, as the outer planets really don't move much, using a 'day for a year' secondary progressions.

What's the difference between Transits and Progressions?
“Transits are the planets currently orbiting in the sky and the relationships they form to each other and additionally, to your chart. Transits happen for everyone. They're important and effect you personally when they contact a planet or point in your chart. Transits represent outside energy, things happening outside yourself. They describe external events and your responses to them. Progressions, however, move very slowly and are a natural progression of your original birth chart. The events and emotions they describe are part of you, deeply ingrained in your psyche, internal, and psychological. And as they form aspects, these inner feelings start to become more important and central to your life” http://www.artcharts.com/learn_astrology/progressed.html


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posted February 04, 2012 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SaggiMC,

"I was going to give you some links but a kind member already gave you my links..."

Yes, and I've begun to check them out.

Thank you for explaining progressions so simply (coming "down" to my level of astrological info. is probably not easy

And the quote from the website for the diffce. bet. transits and progressions is the easiest to understand so far. They don't all explain it so well (including cafeastrology) So thanks for picking this one out.

"I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.”

Yeah, I love it too, since it's true. So I hope you don't get annoyed w/ me for picking your brain for answers.

Would so appreciate your taking another look at my thread on singletons (if/when you have time) and see if I've missed anything in my understanding.

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posted February 06, 2012 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bumping (to displace porn threads)

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posted February 06, 2012 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Linda Jones:
Terrific, thanks for posting this, Xiiro.

Any chance for an almost beginner like me (who understands the basics of astrology) to be able to learn how to do progressions? Would this article be sufficient? Any other sites?

Thanks. I'd appreciate any tips, guidance.



here you go...

progressed planets/charts are more 'internal' changes, evolvements rather than 'events or external' matters. I don't read prog charts as stand alones it's more important to see where these planets are moving in the natal chart

Your natal chart is like a photograph as unique as your fingerprint, BUT the 10planets in the sky have not stayed where they were in your natal chart, they have all moved. Predictive astrology is mostly maths where those 10planets are now and the mathematical aspects they make to your natal charts ie: 180'=opposition, 90'=square, 60'=sextile and 120'=trine.

So your personality, grows, develops, changes, matures as we get older, this is reflected by your sun sign changing from it's natal position to the next sign along, so does your Asc and MC sign change. In fact from sun to mars especially are important, as the outer planets really don't move much, using a 'day for a year' secondary progressions.

What's the difference between Transits and Progressions?
“Transits are the planets currently orbiting in the sky and the relationships they form to each other and additionally, to your chart. Transits happen for everyone. They're important and effect you personally when they contact a planet or point in your chart. Transits represent outside energy, things happening outside yourself. They describe external events and your responses to them. Progressions, however, move very slowly and are a natural progression of your original birth chart. The events and emotions they describe are part of you, deeply ingrained in your psyche, internal, and psychological. And as they form aspects, these inner feelings start to become more important and central to your life” http://www.artcharts.com/learn_astrology/progressed.html

If you want to research more into Secondary progressions try here http://cafeastrology.com/secondaryprogressions.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_progression http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/progressions.html http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=67 http://www.khaldea.com/rudhyar/astroarticles/progressionsinastrology.php http://astrolmass.com/progressions.htm http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_transits_e.htm http://skywriter.wordpress.com/2011/01/27/the-progressed-moon-through-the-12-houses/

solar arcs & secondary progressions http://www.kepler.edu/videos/0902SolarArc/Stathis_SolarArc_Feb09.pdf

“2) The aspects formed by the progressed MC, ASC, Sun, and the planets (other than the Moon). These will indicate major trends for a year or more surrounding the date on which they become exact.” http://www.astrologymatch.com/progressed-chart.htm

The most important of progressed planets is of course, sun & moon and then upto mars, as the outer planets hardly move by progression. Now like with transits, solar arcs --- it's what these progressed planets are doing NOW by mathematical aspect to your natal planets and Angles that is ultimately important.

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posted February 06, 2012 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, SaggiMC, for the additional info PLUS being so patient.

I've bookmarked this page so I can use it as a reference.

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