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Topic: I don't understand progressions
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GeminiLover75 unregistered
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posted September 30, 2006 10:46 PM
Can anyone explain a bit? I checked mine and most planets are the same as my natal chart, but my progressed sun and mercury are in Gemini - what does this mean exactly? Does it mean I don't act or feel like a Taurus? Is this a permanent thing, is it something that passes, or what?? IP: Logged |
astro junkie unregistered
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posted October 04, 2006 01:55 AM
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Camino_Real unregistered
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posted October 07, 2006 12:00 AM
This was taken from aquamoonlight.com:Progressing a chart is to take it forward into the present or future. As you progress through life so does your birthchart. There is more than one method of doing this. Planets in progressed charts do not move very fast from their natal position but as they do they make aspects to the natal planets and angles as well as making aspects between themselves. The house cusps, the Ascendant and other angles also progress. It is when these progressions, whether a planet or the Ascendant, change signs that the most marked events in one's life usually occur. Progressions can be used alongside the transits to give more detailed information of the trends due to occur, or what have occurred in some past event chart. A combination of the natal chart, progressions and transits, when blended together can be very informative. Of particular interest for a yearly forecast are the progressions used alongside the Solar Return. Progressions can also be used in attempting to rectify a birth time, although this would only be useful if some idea of the time is already known, such as: afternoon, evening etc. Methods of Progressing a Chart A Day for a Year The day for a year method is otherwise known as Secondary Progressions. This method is the commonest and most logical to use. It takes the day of birth as signifying the first year of life, the next day as the second year of life and so on. It is as simple as looking up the planetary placements in an ephemeris for whatever day will represent the year of life. Each of these progressed days charts uses the original birth time, so that the Ascendant will also progress along with the planets. Naturally the outer, slow moving planets will hardly move within a lifetime. Sometimes the planets will remain stationary for years or turn retrograde or direct during that time. Generally, only the faster moving planets, the Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus and Mars are of interest as the rest hardly move in progressions. The Day for a year progressed chart can also be calculated for any given time, not just for the start of the new year which would occur on the birthday. This requires calculation of converting the months into minutes and the days into seconds to arrive at an appropriate birth time for that chart. However, a simpler way to calculate this is to construct two charts for two successive years and divide the amount of movement by twelve to ascertain the movement per month. From this the exact position for any given month can be calculated. Using these kinds of progressions alongside a Lunar Return chart is very useful in determining in greater detail the trends for a particular month. Using this method, the moon will take approximately two and a half years to move through each sign. Being the fastest moving planet in a progressed chart it will of course make many more aspects than the other planets. By progression in this manner, the moon will conjunct its natal position at the approximate ages of 28, 56 and 84, each marking an important time in the life of the subject. Solar Arc Progressions This technique of progression is also in common use. Only the position of the progressed Sun needs to be calculated. All the other planets and the angles are then progressed by the same amount as the sun has moved since the last progressed chart or the natal chart. This method is also known as moving all planets and angles by 1 degree for each year of life as it is just under one degree that the sun moves within a day. Converse Progressions By this method the day for a year is calculated backwards from the birth date. Although this sounds a peculiar thing to do, Converse Progressions are surprisingly effective. Aspects in Progressions The aspects are interpreted just the same as in a natal chart or indeed any other chart. Minor aspects are used in progressed charts as much as the major aspects. The aspects can be between the natal and progressed chart along with transits, and between themselves within the progressed chart. The orb of aspect generally allowed for progressions is a tight 1 degree. Significant points in a Progressed Chart When the Ascendant progresses to a new sign. When a planet progresses to a new sign. When a planet progresses to a new house. When any other angle (MC, IC, Descendant) progresses to a new sign.
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astro junkie unregistered
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posted October 08, 2006 04:33 PM
GeminiLover75 -Did that help? IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75 unregistered
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posted October 08, 2006 05:29 PM
Very interesting, thanks for the info!So if your birth chart progresses, does that mean you lose anything that was in your (unprogressed) natal chart? Or do new things build themselves into your personality without replacing any of the old things? IP: Logged |
astro junkie unregistered
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posted October 10, 2006 12:21 AM
... good question ... I'm not all that clear on Progressions either. It's still like splitting hairs to me at this point.------------------ ... it's better to light a candle than curse the darkness IP: Logged |
Camino_Real unregistered
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posted October 10, 2006 12:34 AM
While progressions are a new area to me, from what I've gathered they're in a way like your solar returns; they aren't taking away from your natal chart, nor are they building on it. But rather they're just the outlook for that year.IP: Logged |
DayDreamer unregistered
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posted October 10, 2006 12:48 AM
Hey...I've got to learn about this too and try it out on my own chart...and just stop procrastinating.Can never have enough info so... Here's some more info/links on the subject: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/008860.html http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/006119.html http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/008302.html http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/008114.html http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/008909-2.html http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001330.html Please post some more if you find any.
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GeminiLover75 unregistered
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posted October 10, 2006 03:43 AM
Wow, thanks! Lots and lots to learn... !IP: Logged |
chrissymgreen unregistered
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posted October 10, 2006 12:31 PM
There's a great site that has tons of articles on transpersonal astrology, focusing in on the late great Dane Rudhyar's work. There's like a 4 or 5 part article on progressions here: http://www.khaldea.com/rudhyar/astroarticles/progressionsinastrology.php He talks about the concept of progressions, why and how they work, transits vs progressions, the doctrine of correspondences, the lunation cycle (VERY important), converse progressions...and more. In simple terms, a secondary progression takes an actual day per year as movement. In 40 years, count 40 days from birth in an ephemeris and see where you are in actual terms. Inner planets move relatively quickly, outer planets hardly at all. With secondaries you take into consideration the progressed chart in relation to itself and the progressed in relation to the natal. Because of its quick movement, the moon is particularly important. Also, the angles are calculated by a variety of methods, depending on what motion you use to progress the MC, by which the secondary progressed Asc is calculated (which is how it works in most methods of calculating natal charts--an MC is found and then the Asc/horizon calculated from that). Our natal charts are what we come into this world with. Our secondary progressions show the development of that energy--what general themes are prominent at any given time, and why. It is the reflection of the development of our consciousness as it moves in time and space. In essence, it is where we are now. Progressions also reflect the 'why' of transits, which give you 'what' and 'when'. To use a quote from Stephen Arroyo, the progressed Sun is the hour hand and the progressed Moon the minute hand on the clock face of our life. Hope this is helpful. IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 1120 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 10, 2006 05:01 PM
In a nutshell Gem progressions will "time" important events. especially the progressed Moon. Strict rules apply when delineating progressions. First off the orb allowed is never more than a degree, and you should always include the house cusps when delineating. The conjunction and then the opposition will be felt most. With important events there will be more than one aspect applying.Then check the transits. IP: Logged |
carlfloydfan unregistered
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posted October 10, 2006 11:22 PM
is there anywhere i can go to get a progressed chart done? like something similar to your natal chart on astro?IP: Logged |
carlfloydfan unregistered
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posted October 10, 2006 11:26 PM
apparently i am a sag sun and my gf is a gem sun..so we are still opposites even under the progressed charts as opposed to scorp/taurus...hmm my aquarius moon in PC may say a lot too.IP: Logged |
DayDreamer unregistered
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posted October 10, 2006 11:31 PM
Yup it's in astro.comGo under the "extended chart selection" (you have to click on more free horoscopes at the bottom of the home page to see it) And where it says "Please select the type of chart you want."...you select "Progressed Chart" You'd have to interpret the chart yourself though as it doesn't give descriptions...it only gives a chart.
***If anyone knows of a place that gives a free progressed chart readings - Please do post it here*** Thanks IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 1120 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 10, 2006 11:51 PM
Hey carl how's your L VE life? is life wonderful again? IP: Logged |
MUSTANG unregistered
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posted October 11, 2006 12:12 PM
Here is a great site for transits and other reports. http://www.grupovenus.com/main.htm Go to free reports. It is great for a lot of reports and it's free! I did my 2nd progression on here and it gives you descriptions and aspects. Astro.com doesn't do that, and I am unable to do it myself sicne I'm a novice. I'm glad this thread was made because I'm very interested in 2nd progressions, but didn't have a lot of info until this thread. My moon changes in a few months into taurus. That should be a relief, because an aries moon has been difficult for me. IP: Logged |
MUSTANG unregistered
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posted October 11, 2006 12:18 PM
It is also great for synastry charts! IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75 unregistered
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posted October 11, 2006 04:01 PM
Ah, excellent - thanks for the site! I've got so much to read and learn these days. IP: Logged |
heart cakes unregistered
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posted December 23, 2007 11:50 PM
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Unmoved Knowflake Posts: 2196 From: Registered: May 2009
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