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Geminisquared
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posted February 03, 2012 03:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminisquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know with this postion venus can be prone to secret affairs.

Okay so try not to judge me to much,

I'm currently having this problem. Honestly I really do not care what you call this, I'm just caught up in this romance and its in the moment. I've been brought down to reality, and I am the "other" person right now. I know its unfair to his girlfriend, and thats why I'm going to end it. I feel so bad about it too, because I never thought I would ever do something like that. I don't think they were dating to long....

I've totally been neglecting everything for this, like skipping classes and coming back to the dorm late at night. This has been only happening for about 2 WEEKS. I'm not sure what time he was born. We use to be friends before this.
Oh I just transfered at the beginning of this quarter to a 4 year college, and my life has changed radically. Especially in these three weeks.

My friends and room mate asked me about what was going on with me and brought me down to reality. I think neptune and uranus in the 7th house does not help. It just sorta of happened out of nowhere.

My problem is, I love romance but I just hate the feeling of being tied down. I love the spontaneity of it. Reality was sort of blurred.
Serious relationships never appealed to me anyways, I'm sure if I even want to date this person..
I'm scared this is going to be a pattern for me. I don't ever want to be the other person.

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TrueTaurus
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posted February 03, 2012 03:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TrueTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This has nothing to do with the 12th house..I have a 12th house stellium, venus in gemini, and never in my life would I think of doing that. Tempting, yes, but I wouldn't act on it. I think Neptune makes one have fantasies and has difficulty coming to terms with reality, but to know whether or not someone acts on it, you'd have to see the stability of their entire chart. I have stellium in Taurus too, so earth grounds me, even though I have Neptune in 7th, too.
My Mars is in Aquarius, and I hear you on how you feel about relationships, but it doesn't mean I'm any less serious about committment. I just get a little bored spending too much time with one person, but it doens't mean I want to be with someone else. I just want my alone time. Do your own thing, be single, but don't get yourself involved in someone's else's relationship, if anything, Piscean empathy should help you feel this out. That kind of pain is just unbearable.

Taurus/Scorpio/Cancer

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Geminisquared
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posted February 03, 2012 03:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminisquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a 12th house stellium too and moon in taurus. Well the back story is we've been friends way before they were even dating. I'm just a little disturbed because this is not like me. Also the fact that this romance progressed and started while they were dating.

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RegardesPlatero
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posted February 03, 2012 06:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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FireWire
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posted February 03, 2012 08:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireWire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:

Whatever your chart says, you ALWAYS have free will, and the power is yours to rise above anything and everything that you do not wish to be. You always have that choice.


Ah, I love this! Beautifully stated!!!

And GeminiSquared, don't be hard on yourself. You've recognized 'what is wrong,' so now you can decide what you will do. What matters is what we do after the recognition and I think you are moving in a positive direction.

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Geminisquared
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posted February 09, 2012 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminisquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Idk I have all this freedom now. When I lived with my parents I tried to be this golden child. Who was perfect in every way possible. If I did do inappropriate things it was carefully planed out. I can do whatever I want right now. I guess I'm going through this rebellious stage. I'm just trying to enjoy myself.

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted February 09, 2012 11:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Geminisquared:
I know with this postion venus can be prone to secret affairs.


I take serious exception to that statement. I speak only for myself, and that is not true for me.

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I think neptune and uranus in the 7th house does not help.

I have Uranus in the 7th House as well, and once again, I voice my strenuous objections.

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Geminisquared
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posted February 10, 2012 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminisquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone can be the exception. A placement in persons chart can effect them in a different way from someone else. Its not so black and white.
Do you have some saturn influencing venus or the seventh house?

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Tofu addict
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posted February 10, 2012 02:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tofu addict     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Geminisquared:
[B]I know with this postion venus can be prone to secret affairs.

Okay so try not to judge me to much,


Don't worry, i won't, i have the same position venus, in aries in 12, and had a secret affair for 5 years.
I ended it, happier since.
I won't do it again, but venus in 12 has probably more than any other sign the need for secrecy and is able to pull it off.

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Geminisquared
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posted February 10, 2012 04:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminisquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That makes me feel a lot better tofu.. I did not really end mine as yet. My friends think I've ended it, Its completely a secret right now. I'll end it when I just do not feel that chemistry. Honestly I think his relationship is a joke. I don't know why their still together. Oh well..

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SaggiMC
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posted February 10, 2012 09:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
need to SEE the chart please?

How to post your chart… http://www.linda-goodman.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ubbmisc.cgi?action=getannounce&ForumNumber=11&Start=2455736.99&End=2459389&Session=

Need to see how venus is aspected and how neptune and uranus are aspected. just remember planets are modified by signs, where they express are houses and how they express are *aspects*

Basic astrology forum discussing Saturn in houses http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000660.html

Basic astrology forum discussing Neptune in houses http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000661.html

Basic astrology forum discussing Uranus in houses http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000662.html

Basic astrology forum discussing Pluto in houses http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000663.html

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SaggiMC
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posted February 10, 2012 09:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Geminisquared:
I have a 12th house stellium too and moon in taurus. Well the back story is we've been friends way before they were even dating. I'm just a little disturbed because this is not like me. Also the fact that this romance progressed and started while they were dating.

Basic astrology forum, 12th house planets http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000666.html


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I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.”

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SaggiMC
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posted February 10, 2012 09:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by TrueTaurus:
This has nothing to do with the 12th house..I have a 12th house stellium, venus in gemini, and never in my life would I think of doing that. Tempting, yes, but I wouldn't act on it. I think Neptune makes one have fantasies and has difficulty coming to terms with reality, but to know whether or not someone acts on it, you'd have to see the stability of their entire chart. I have stellium in Taurus too, so earth grounds me, even though I have Neptune in 7th, too.
My Mars is in Aquarius, and I hear you on how you feel about relationships, but it doesn't mean I'm any less serious about committment. I just get a little bored spending too much time with one person, but it doens't mean I want to be with someone else. I just want my alone time. Do your own thing, be single, but don't get yourself involved in someone's else's relationship, if anything, Piscean empathy should help you feel this out. That kind of pain is just unbearable.

Taurus/Scorpio/Cancer


hmmmm, that's rather judgemental and YES venus in 12th is CLASSIC secret very private affairs

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SaggiMC
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posted February 10, 2012 09:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
I have Uranus in the 7th House as well, and once again, I voice my strenuous objections.

I have uranus in 7th, challenging both luminaries and have been divorced 3x now. This is classic divorce aspect,BUT you never know with uranus again we need to see how your uranus is aspected

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quote:Originally posted by Geminisquared:
I know with this postion venus can be prone to secret affairs.

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I take serious exception to that statement. I speak only for myself, and that is not true for me.

Well again without SEEEING a chart how can anyone really assess how there venus functions....So how is your venus aspected? conjunct saturn I suspect?

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I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.”

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SaggiMC
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posted February 10, 2012 09:37 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Geminisquared:
That makes me feel a lot better tofu.. I did not really end mine as yet. My friends think I've ended it, Its completely a secret right now. I'll end it when I just do not feel that chemistry. Honestly I think his relationship is a joke. I don't know why their still together. Oh well..

You also really need to look at the ruler of your 7th and 5th houses as this will make the connection. The worst placement is ruler of 7th in 12th as it makes things very hard to define.

research here.. http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm

Also for a successful relationship, look to rulers of 1st & 7th. Mine are urans and sun, and I have a square to relationships can be bit challenging... any aspect is better than none..

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Geminisquared
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posted February 10, 2012 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminisquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey saggi. http://i.imgur.com/qOnn1.gif

Okay well My seventh house is ruled by neptune and uranus. Well I think uranus by its self can be unstable unless they have saturn aspecting it or an aspect/placement which an counter its effect. I don't think people realize that an aspect or placement may not have much negative influence if you positive aspect which can take its place.
Thats why every person has different experiences.

I have my seventh house in capricorn; but I do not have a lot of self restraint thou when it comes to the senses. Taurus moon, and also jupiter squaring sun mercury and venus in 12th house. I have neptune in the 7th too, which can possibly cause me to be delusional when it comes to relationships.

I have pluto in the 5th house, and Chiron is ruling the first. Chiron actual purpose confuses me a little. I've read about it but it seems rather vague and I have not cared enough to investigate that much.

"Saturn in the 8th house
Strong sensuality needs restraining. Lesson to learn where sex attitudes and appetites are concerned. Attitudes to sex are serious and can be inhibited. "

Oh man I did not know that....

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pandacake
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posted February 10, 2012 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pandacake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Geminisquared:
I know with this postion venus can be prone to secret affairs.

I believe I'm also an exception to this; "secret affairs" in the traditional meaning.

There is secrecy in the sense that I'm a private person and uncomfortable sharing too much, even if the relationship is completely legit and there's no one else involved etc. I'm also very loyal and idealistic.

It's good that you know you don't want to be "the other person" ... Like previously stated, free will always triumph, and you can be proud that you follow your beliefs rather than instinct.

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Geminisquared
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posted February 10, 2012 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminisquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I completely agree with you an "affair" isn't just two individuals cheating on their parters with each other. This may be a common form of a secret affair in the western world since everything is usually acceptable. In some parts of the world people have arranged marriages and have to keep it a secret. In my case I knew the guy long before they were dating. I'm not sure what we are, I have to figure what I want. Maybe if it was serious I would of backes out and not encouraged it. For whatever reason its became a secret. It all about what situation you brought in. When people they I'm loyal I would never do that. its like but have you ever been in my personal situation. Romance is not a logical thing, it just happens for no reason. Of course I do feel guilty because its was not fair on the that person. I'm every logical person but when it comes to emotions and feelings sometimes being "logical" is illogical. Sometimes you just follow your heart. It was not just casual sex.

I personally believe you should follow your "instincts" because that's what your heart wants. You want that cake? Eat it, you'll be happier because of it. If not you experienced it, and well never have that what if haunting you. Just don't over indulge yourself and eat 2 cakes. (carnal desires)

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted February 10, 2012 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you really want me to post my chart? I didn't have the intention of crapping up someone else's thread.

Yes, Venus Conjunct Saturn in the 12th House. Uranus conjunct Pluto in the 7th House. I can't relate to anything that has been said.

Secret affairs are not on the agenda and I don't ever intend ever to divorce regardless of circumstances. I have a marriage out of romance and I intend to keep it that way.

Oh well. Here goes:

Ruler of 7th House in 11th House, thus making my wife my best friend.

Ruler of 12th House in 7th House, meaning very close connection and predestined obligation to my wife.

Ruler of 3rd House in 11th House as well.

Ruler of 5th House in 9th House, indicating why I married someone outside of my ethnicity, culture and nationality.

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted February 10, 2012 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lilithpluto had a great explanation after looking at some asteroids.

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Originally posted by lilithpluto:
Okie, my best try at your question.

I did a chart for you on astro with all the love asteroids. You have UNION [1585] and Aphrodite [1388] in your 7th house together with uranus and pluto: your pluto conjunct your aphrodite (<1 degree), pluto conjunct your union (<2 degree) AND most importantly, APHRODITE conjunct UNION exact!! So that probably explains you [b]love being married/in a committed relationship.

Aphrodite is the goddness of love, beauty, pleasure and procreation, areas where you will love. Link to my mini research on Aphrodite

Union, I guessed the name explains itself



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Ami Anne
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posted February 10, 2012 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
I have Uranus in the 7th House as well, and once again, I voice my strenuous objections.


Uranus in the 7th---what happened to all our work

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