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NickiG
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posted February 07, 2012 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I notice most Aquariuses act like hotter shots than they are. Not sure why when it's so obviously seen through.


i have too...they pretend to be your friend and then turn around and talk about you

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history

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cappy1277
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posted February 07, 2012 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cappy1277     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My sister is a Scorpio with majority of planets in 8th which Scorpio/sag. Manipulative is an understatement...being a liar is one of her worst traits. She has sun conjunct Uranus (gives her a nice aquarian flavor) in 8th house....she may be my family but I truly know she has a part of her that is aligned w/Satan. I don't like her energy & I feel depressed around her. I kind of feel sorry for her at times because I feel like if she would dig into her spirituality & find herself, she may become a better person.

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acousticbob
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posted February 07, 2012 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for acousticbob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
From my perspective a lie is only a negative thing - if it affects others adversely. Otherwise I just don't feel like it's my business whether someone is lying about their past or not.

Who decides whether its a negative thing and affects others adversely?

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ladyvi
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posted February 07, 2012 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ladyvi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NativelyJoan:
@Ladyvi and NickiG,

Thanks for your responses. I've considered planet afflictions to Mercury but ruled them as sub-important because his Mercury is in Aquarius conjunct his Sun not aspecting any other planets. He has Scorpio as a dominant placement (3 planets) with hard aspects to Mars, and as someone with dominant Pluto in their chart I know deception and control are related to this planet in particular. Yes the chart is complex, however I can turn the lens right back to you in regards to narrowing an assumption down to one placement (Afflicted Mercury).

My situation isn't just about what he says (Mercury) but also what he does and how he acts (Mars). That's why I mentioned Mars in Scorpio, because of his actions. I'm sorry if that bothers you but his Mars is directly related to this situation as well as many other placements in his chart.



What about Neptune ? Some people who are Neptunian or have hard aspects to it can live in a fantasy world.

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MoonWitch
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posted February 07, 2012 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonWitch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NativelyJoan:
And has anyone met a Scorpio who didn't believe in the occult, paranormal, metaphysical or spiritual subjects?

Absolutely. My husband is a Scorpio Sun and he has nearly zero belief in the occult, paranormal, metaphysical or spiritual subjects. He's extremely logical.

He also tends to be blatantly honest.

The only other Scorpio he has in his chart is in Neptune, though.


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ladyvi
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posted February 07, 2012 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ladyvi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:
You suggested afflicted mercury but then said yours is not afflicted and you lie bc you feel everyone lies.

I think you are right I think everyone lies probably bc is an adaptive trait evolutionarily speaking. For example, people were executed for practicing witchcraft at some point so been honest about practicing witchcraft will get you kill. I think people intuitively lie to avoid getting in trouble and suffering but some people do it out of insecurity when there is no need for it or lie like is a sport or to seem cool etc...

I have one aspect to mercury and that is mercury opposite moon and I am not liar. I have lied but do it HARDLY ever. I enjoy been blunt and take pride it in and since opposition is the only aspect I have involving mercury I would assume this is means my mercury is afflicted but perhaps the fact that is in virgo and it conjuncts my MC and falls in the 10th helps as well as having a sag rising.


Perhaps mercury square jupiter combined with mercury square/opposition neptune and a mercury that is not exalted.


I never said every single person with an afflicted mercury is a liar but it CAN be an indicator among other aspects. The OP cleared that up when she said his mercury is unafflicted. But that doesn't mean someone with an unafflicted mercury isn't a liar. It depends on what the person lies about.

I dont lie because everyone else lies. I lie to my family ( not friends or others) about the scandalous things I have done because I am ashamed and don't want to be looked down upon in their eyes or disowned. I guess its out of insecurity/selfishness/being a Virgo moon ? If you knew my past you would understand my shame but I'm not here looking for sympathy. I have a very traditional family and I am a very untraditional person. I guess the "honorable thing" would be to follow my parents rules and be a good little girl who sits at home and cooks and cleans but I wanted to experiment. Now I regret it and hide it. One day I'll probably get drunk and tell them everything i'll just make sure they take blood pressure medicine first lol


The witch huntings are a perfect example. Also Jews in the Third Reich who lied about their nationality so their whole families wouldn't be slaughtered by the Gestapo.

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ladyvi
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posted February 07, 2012 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ladyvi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NickiG:
what i said, lol


My bad I only read the OP's post not anyone elses because I was in a bit of a hurry.

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