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Ami Anne
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posted February 07, 2012 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think this is a real category. I see this when I do charts. This opens up the "unaspected planet" category to more people. It seems to be real, in my humble opinion.

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posted February 07, 2012 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
“Semi” Unaspected Planets
By amiann | Published: February 5, 2012 |

Astrology is a living science. It allows one to put forth theories based on doing charts. This is how I see it, anyway. In that light, I would like to talk about planets which are almost unaspected. They may have one or two aspects. If it is one aspect, it may be a close orb.If it is two, they may be wider orbs. Of course, this is not a doctrine, just what I see by doing charts. An unaspected planet is a distinct animal, such as a zebra. It has certain defining traits. The semi unaspected planet is like a mini version of it. It has the same traits, but in less intense form. The unaspected moon is a stark placement. You will see if you read my article. The native is very, very sensitive to life, in a Micheal Jackson fashion. Obviously, this is very painful to the person. A semi unaspected moon would have the same traits, but the intensity would be dialed down a notch. The same could be said for the semi unaspected Venus. The native may not have to dig up his Venus with the intensity of the true unaspected Venus. However, the process would mirror the unaspected Venus’ journey with similar results. The native with semi unaspected planet would look very much like the native with the truly unaspected planet. By outward appearances,there is little difference. This has been my experience, to date.

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posted February 07, 2012 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please come and share, if you have a planet with one close aspect or two wide ones, or something like that

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posted February 07, 2012 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
interesting.

okay i guess i only have mars in aspect to the sun when orbs are reduced to 85%. 2 if the 8+ degree conjunct to saturn counts.

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Ami Anne
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posted February 07, 2012 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, 8 degree is too large, imo

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posted February 07, 2012 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, Sand, do you have an almost unaspected Mars?

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posted February 07, 2012 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i guess so.. semi-unaspected mars in scorpio in house 1? but it's retro and so is my uranus (speaking for the other thread) kinda hard to piece together all this contradicting interpretations lol! doesn't help that my chart is opposition-y.

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posted February 07, 2012 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 07, 2012 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes Retro is it's own thing. I am gonna write about that, as it is a unique quality, seemingly similar to 12th house, but very different.

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posted February 07, 2012 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 07, 2012 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm about unaspected Mars. It is hard for me to feel out that one. Can you relate?

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posted February 07, 2012 03:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
No, 8 degree is too large, imo

this orb is quite normal for hard aspects like conj, squares and oppositions. then luminaries get 10' orb

Trines and sextiles I use 6' orbs
Quincunx max 3'

I'm sorry either a planet is Unaspected or it's NOT. just because a chart may have one aspect or even two is normal, not special or worth making a new category of it..

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posted February 07, 2012 03:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sand, you mars is not unaspected.
Mars retro has problems *taking actions*

mars in scorpio is domicile. So first we look where Aries rules ..

Ruler of the Sixth House in the First House

"The work you do affects your outlook on life and your vitality in general. You could be highly sensitive to weather changes so that they actually influence your mood and your motivation. You tend to worry too much about the impression you make on others." http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm#hr6

Mars Retrograde
* reconsiders before expressing anger
* finds competitive situations hard to handle
* tends to repress and so ....
* can become depressed http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/retrogradeplanets.htm#neprx

"Retrograde Mars: Work in its more conventional, mundane sense can be very painful for these people. Work best when it has some sort of “cause” associated with it. Less competitive than usual Mars energy— often in competition with themselves. Mars retrograde women are often attracted to men who are dependent, irresponsible, handicapped in some way, or social misfits." http://www.north-node.com/astrology-tutorials/retrogrades

"Mars Retrograde- Mars retrograde in a persons birth chart causes the person to be very frigid or to go to the extremes. Some have sex aversions" http://astrology.findyourfate.com/astrology-retrograde.htm

So Sand, do you identify with your mars retro??

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posted February 07, 2012 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If anyone wants to discuss a NEW category of semi unaspected planet, you may do so, with me, as I am interested. Thank you!

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posted February 07, 2012 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saggi MC
I have asked the people that care to discuss this concept to do so. If you think it is foolish, that is your right, but I want to hear from the people who don't. I hope you can respect that. Thank you.

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posted February 07, 2012 03:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sand, now this mars opp sun will not express as if it were direct, obviously. So to start with let's look at the direct version and perhaps you can comment on how YOU find your *actions, ego, pride, self* responds??

Sun opposition Mars
"The opposition of the Sun and Mars shows that you are a fighter who never backs away from a challenge or from competition. Dissension is a constant problem for you. You are very assertive, and you attract people who are also strong-willed. Perhaps your attitude just brings out these traits in those around you. It's hard for you to look at yourself realistically and understand that many battles you fight are not necessary. They may make little contribution to your success. As you mature and learn to control aggressiveness, you can do a much because your strong drive serves you in reaching whatever goal is set." http://www.skyscript.co.uk/sunaspects.html#suoma

So, how much do you assert yourself?

Did anything happen age 12 please? just looking at your Asc and solar arc. did something happen to knock your confidence? did a parent come down hard, become strict, aloof, distant?

did you move house age 2.5 solar arc MC onto moon,
Do you have any sleep problems?

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posted February 07, 2012 03:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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^i also can't tell the difference mch between unaspected mars and mars in opposition to the sun.

i like this interp for unaspected mars if i do indeed have it..

Unaspected Mars

Either you are over-committed, or not committed at all. That is, on the one hand you might have many strongly-held convictions; on the other hand, you might have none! You waver between passionately pursuing an abundance of causes, and not being motivated by any of them. This is a very strange state of affairs indeed! Now, why should this be? At the root of it is that, on an instinctive level, you are open to almost anything that might arouse your passions and sympathies; but, by being so open, you can fail to be touched by any of them, as they can all fall short of what you consider to be the essential convincing ingredient. Thus, you can end up being either indifferent to your inner life, or swamped by it. Most people have a level of passion for life which hums at a steady pitch; they achieve and fulfill their desires relative to this level. With you it’s more like an on off switch and sometimes like a dimmer switch. What fires you up this week can seem almost boring a matter of days later.
http://www.astrotext.co.uk/blog/?p=701



why do you keep indentifying with unaspected when you SHOULD be researching your retro mars....??

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posted February 07, 2012 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^i was entertaining a possibility. iv looked at retro mars and in one of the threads here i think you can switch to sidereal to see how it operates (not sure bout specifics but something like that) and i get mars in libra there. and the unaspected mars reading does sounda abit mars in libra-ish to me. it does make sense to me that a retro mars would function like a mars in det/fall..

i don't connect with everything about mars retro but i connect with enough to acknowledge i have and feel it in my chart.

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posted February 08, 2012 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tautomer4314     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My sun is my most unaspected planet in my chart. All it has is a conjunction to my mercury. Which is a pretty strong aspect mind you, but that's it. To me it's always explained why I don't act much like a taurus.

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posted February 08, 2012 01:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by tautomer4314:
My sun is my most unaspected planet in my chart. All it has is a conjunction to my mercury. Which is a pretty strong aspect mind you, but that's it. To me it's always explained why I don't act much like a taurus.


Yep, I also think my Sun is the most unaspected planet in my chart. I dun feel like my sun sign for that reason.. the closest is my sun sextile my mars (4 degrees) and that's about it - but it do make aspects to my asteroids :

Sun square sedan (exact)
Sun square Angel (1 degree)
Sun sextile karma (1 degree)

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posted February 08, 2012 04:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Please come and share, if you have a planet with one close aspect or two wide ones, or something like that


My Pluto is conjunct Jupiter and out-of-sign square Saturn. My Venus is wide conjunct my Sun and closely trines Saturn.

Are either of those semi-unaspected? Those two planets are the least aspected planets in my chart.

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posted February 08, 2012 04:28 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sand:
^i was entertaining a possibility. iv looked at retro mars and in one of the threads here i think you can switch to sidereal to see how it operates (not sure bout specifics but something like that) and i get mars in libra there. and the unaspected mars reading does sounda abit mars in libra-ish to me. it does make sense to me that a retro mars would function like a mars in det/fall..

i don't connect with everything about mars retro but i connect with enough to acknowledge i have and feel it in my chart.


Be careful not to mix tropical with sidereal, just because you like the sound of mars in libra. These two modalities don't mix

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Originally posted by RedScorp:
My Pluto is conjunct Jupiter and out-of-sign square Saturn. My Venus is wide conjunct my Sun and closely trines Saturn.

Are either of those semi-unaspected? Those two planets are the least aspected planets in my chart.


not in my opinion....... that TWO aspects each if I'm not mistaken

Natal chart aspects http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planets_in_astrology http://www.astrologyweekly.com/learn-astrology/astrology-glyphs.php http://www.skyscript.co.uk/sunaspects.html http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/planetsaspectsastrology.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_aspect http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_aspect_e.htm http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/aspectsreference.htm http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/aspectssun.htm http://astrologynotes.org/wiki/Sun_aspects http://www.astrologyindepth.com/Special:Prefixindex/category: http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/TOClessons.htm http://www.theastrologicalaspects.com/ http://www.strangehouse.com/natal-aspects/index.php


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posted February 08, 2012 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MY experience, for anyone who is interested, and cares to talk about it, is that a semi unaspected planet has traits of the fully unaspected one, but not as intense.

I base this on my experience and would love to talk with any of you that would like to discuss your charts, in this vein. Thanks!

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posted February 08, 2012 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To SaggiMC:

There is room in LL for all sorts of astrology research and views and opinions. The OP has the right to ask what she deems is an interesting astrology question for research purposes and as far as I can see she has defined her topic quite accurately. Perhaps showing a little respect to other astrologers would go a long way in making your contributions respected by LL members.

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