posted February 13, 2012 04:02 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
I can read people really well and I usually am a good judge of character. But sometimes I think I am too trusting of people.. Even bad people.
I have a Cancer sun.

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I think that's a very good point. There's a difference between being able to read people well and being too trusting. I think I doubted some of my friend's hunches because they were too trusting and I confused it with them not being able to read people. I'm not very trusting, I understand people are people but their thoughtlessness and selfishness scares me. Perhaps it's because I haven't come to terms with those traits within myself, but regardless that's where I'm at right now. I suppose Water signs are more understanding of this and with their understanding comes being open and by being relaxed and open in that way they can detect others quite easily.

posted February 13, 2012 04:26 PM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
I'm not "accusing you of not knowing what you're talking about."

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
You don't understand the reason for the behavior at all

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
It's not because we want to leech off people for their advice. That's kind of a negative way of putting it.

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I didn't say Cancers leeched off people, I said the Cancers I have met, " have a tendency to fly off into selfish land (AKA okay enough about you, how do I feel and how can you make me feel better?) once they believe they have figured a person out or paid their emotional dues". Leeching off people and becoming self absorbed after becoming satisfied with your idea of who that person is, are two very different things. Additionally, I never suggested a reason for WHY the Cancers I know do this, I only mentioned it is something I have noticed them do (Which you have now agreed to several times).

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
We do the behavior but it's not because of that. But it's okay. You're a masculine sun, you wouldn't understand our ways. Haha :P

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posted February 13, 2012 04:52 PM            

I am damn good at reading people. I shock people with it all the time . I have learned to control it though because I can take it too far.

I have moon in scorpio conjunct pluto in the first. Both trine my mars. There is a tremedous strength there because of it with seeing the undercurrents of things. Then, I have a gemini 8th house stellium of which mercury is part of. As such, my reading people is just as much mental/analytical as it is intuitive.

posted February 13, 2012 04:58 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Haha! I would never try to hoodwink you, ever.

I also wonder if a Scorpio rising is stronger when it's not coupled with other Scorpio placements. It sounds weird, but I'm baffled as to how my BFF has 4 or 5 Scorpio placements and I wasn't hesitant about approaching her at ALL (whereas girls truly don't like her and think she's a Bish.) And yet my Libra co-worker has Scorpio rising and THAT I can feel. He also has Pluto in the 1st though, so I think I answered my own question but... I'm still posting it lol.

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posted February 13, 2012 05:06 PM            

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I have moon in scorpio conjunct pluto in the first. Both trine my mars. There is a tremedous strength there because of it with seeing the undercurrents of things. Then, I have a gemini 8th house stellium of which mercury is part of. As such, my reading people is just as much mental/analytical as it is intuitive.

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Yikes, this IS a little bit scary!

I have Pluto in the 3rd and really don't like people who are THAT intuitive. I've been known to cover my face or leave the room if stared at with too penetrating a gaze.

posted February 13, 2012 06:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Yikes, this IS a little bit scary!

I have Pluto in the 3rd and really don't like people who are THAT intuitive. I've been known to cover my face or leave the room if stared at with too penetrating a gaze.

Pisces moon...I can tell when I'm under analysis.

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Lol. This happened with a Pisces I was...dealing with once. Seemed so confident and sure of themselves, riiiight until I looked them in the eyes. It was so funny, I had to stop myself from laughing. Only because this person was 'trying' to confront me in a very underhanded, passive aggressive way.

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
How good are double water signs at reading people?
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I'm wondering if Fire/Earth signs see the reailty and truth of a situation faster than a water sign, but water signs are able to see what's going on in THAT precise moment.

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Hmm...I'm not sure about the last statement. And I was reading some of the responses, and I don't know that they all apply to the 'specific' thing you are asking. It is sort of turning into more of a 'water signs' are very good at reading people, are empathic, intuitive and maybe psychic. Which...if we are talking about Sun signs, I disagree. Mainly, because it just isn't true, off Sun alone. I think their are tendencies of water Sun signs (stereotypically speaking) that give the impression of it. But fear/suspicion and intuition are 'not' in the same family--at all.

posted February 13, 2012 07:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Yikes, this IS a little bit scary!

I have Pluto in the 3rd and really don't like people who are THAT intuitive. I've been known to cover my face or leave the room if stared at with too penetrating a gaze.

Pisces moon...I can tell when I'm under analysis.

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heh, my mom is a pisces. She will "know" When I am analyzing her and sorting her out in my mind. At times it unnerves her as she will feel "naked". She has actually taught me how to tone it down some and control it. Because I can bore into people to much and bother them.

posted February 13, 2012 08:09 PM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Actually, I would say the moon, because it rules emotions itself, would be the one to understand others' emotions the best. And by the way, Saturn, the MOST impersonal planet, makes Capricorns terrible judges of character simply because Capricorn is the worst at understanding its own and, as a result, others' emotions. Conversely, that's what it needs to learn from it's opposite, Cancer, who happens to understand it's own emotions really well, and as a result can understand others' really well, too.

And, by the way, it's dependent, not dependant. It's like confident and confidant. Dependant is a noun. And actually, wouldn't you say the moon has pretty strong power over the earth, as it rules everybodys' emotional states? Doesn't seem very "dependent" to me.

It bothers me that you would rank on Cancer suns so much in one post, so I had to. Sorry. And just to add a final touch .........

Lol.

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:-) love this.

posted February 13, 2012 08:53 PM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Appleberry, wouldn't not trusting anyone show that you distrust your own ability to read people?

I would think the person who is a good judge of character would trust some and also distrust some, but not just distrust everyone.

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posted February 13, 2012 08:54 PM            

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Originally posted by tautomer4314:
I am an even mix between earth water and air (I have no fire).

I am damn good at reading people. I shock people with it all the time . I have learned to control it though because I can take it too far.

I have moon in scorpio conjunct pluto in the first. Both trine my mars. There is a tremedous strength there because of it with seeing the undercurrents of things. Then, I have a gemini 8th house stellium of which mercury is part of. As such, my reading people is just as much mental/analytical as it is intuitive.

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posted February 13, 2012 08:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Yikes, this IS a little bit scary!

I have Pluto in the 3rd and really don't like people who are THAT intuitive. I've been known to cover my face or leave the room if stared at with too penetrating a gaze.

Pisces moon...I can tell when I'm under analysis.

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posted February 13, 2012 08:58 PM            

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Originally posted by FireWire:
Hmm...I'm not sure about the last statement. And I was reading some of the responses, and I don't know that they all apply to the 'specific' thing you are asking. It is sort of turning into more of a 'water signs' are very good at reading people, are empathic, intuitive and maybe psychic. Which...if we are talking about Sun signs, I disagree. Mainly, because it just isn't true, off Sun alone. I think their are tendencies of water Sun signs (stereotypically speaking) that give the impression of it. But fear/suspicion and intuition are 'not' in the same family--at all.

When you say 'double water signs' what do you mean? Rising and Sun? Sun and Moon? Mercury and Pluto?

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True. My statement is just a theory, there to be molded and prodded as desired lol.

Double water signs with Sun and Moon, Rising and Sun in mind specifically. For some reason or other I have it in my mind that it's a stronger impact or more prevalent the closer they are together. I know that's illogical because of aspects, please don't beat me up for it.

posted February 13, 2012 09:01 PM            

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Originally posted by appleberry:
No, I mean... If I read someone negatively... I might not know what they will do, just what they are capable of doing... So I don't trust them... I don't have esp, just an ability to read energy of some sort. I definitely trust my ability to read people but I can't read minds or the future. I'm never wrong about my first impressions with the neg, I might not see the pos til I drop my guard cuz the neg is so strong for me but I have yet to be wrong about someone's neg side... Ever.... People who have seen me do this trust me 100% with my impressions of people in that regard.

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What are your aspects appleberry?

posted February 13, 2012 09:10 PM            

Xiiro, I tried to be nice to you. Whatever.

posted February 13, 2012 09:23 PM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:

Xiiro, I tried to be nice to you. Whatever.

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posted February 13, 2012 10:48 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I'm with you there. I hate knowing I'm being analyzed, it's highly uncomfortable. You'd think whoever is performing such an act would be intuitive enough to be smooth about it.

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LOL! I just laughed aloud!

It depends on how I feel, personally and what you are up to. If you are prodding and trying to 'read me' I turn on the laser beams and will almost 'tell you' I am reading you. If you are just...kind of like...I don't know, being, I'll be nice and smile (Libra rising). That being said, I am double fire!

posted February 13, 2012 11:37 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:

Are you good at reading people because you understand they're inherently all the same? If so, I think that's an earth trait or I could see it being one. It's practical and about the basics. Then again you have air and water to help you out, I think air and water is an excellent combo for reading people. I wish there was a PM system here, you'd be so interesting to talk to!

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Haha, well if we ever end up in tinychat or something similar in the future, I can talk your ear off :-P. You'd be very interesting to speak to as well because you strike me as vastly different from myself. But, in ways I idealize and strive to be more like.

You are correct, most everyone is actually the same to me. When someone asks me why I can read people I will almost always say this (or something similar to this): "people make sense. It's logical that they will be illogical, and therefore their actions are highly logical and easily reasoned". I simply "get" most human behavior. I am near impossible to be shocked with someones behavior. In a sense I have seen it all, and expect it all.

When someone DOES manage to shock and geninuely surprise me though, I become extremely weak. I have had one romatic interest in the past due that with me, and I became absolutely obsessed with him, to the point where I became sick in more ways then one.

posted February 13, 2012 11:51 PM            

Hmm...I think Pisces is the least best at reading people. Cancer is great right away with people (later becomes more self-interested, as Xiiro said), and Scorpio builds over time, as it learns/observes/whatevah.

posted February 14, 2012 12:11 AM            

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Originally posted by tautomer4314:
Haha, well if we ever end up in tinychat or something similar in the future, I can talk your ear off :-P. You'd be very interesting to speak to as well because you strike me as vastly different from myself. But, in ways I idealize and strive to be more like.

You are correct, most everyone is actually the same to me. When someone asks me why I can read people I will almost always say this (or something similar to this): "people make sense. It's logical that they will be illogical, and therefore their actions are highly logical and easily reasoned". I simply "get" most human behavior. I am near impossible to be shocked with someones behavior. In a sense I have seen it all, and expect it all.

When someone DOES manage to shock and geninuely surprise me though, I become extremely weak. I have had one romatic interest in the past due that with me, and I became absolutely obsessed with him, to the point where I became sick in more ways then one.

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You have Taurus in your chart? Me too. I remember working with a Capricorn friend of mine and she told me how people were all the same. It was kind of depressing because I'd rather analyze people and figure out their complexities than face that no one is original and their thoughts are mimicries of each other. But it's true.

About the ex, I had a similar experience! I think it was the Aquarius/Cancer combination of our progressed charts though.

posted February 14, 2012 12:24 AM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
You have Taurus in your chart? Me too. I remember working with a Capricorn friend of mine and she told me how people were all the same. It was kind of depressing because I'd rather analyze people and figure out their complexities than face that no one is original and their thoughts are mimicries of each other. But it's true.

About the ex, I had a similar experience! I think it was the Aquarius/Cancer combination of our progressed charts though.

How am I different? And I'm sure you would. You have impeccable grammar as far as I can tell and I'm a sucker for impeccable grammar.

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Impeccable grammar?! My grammar is atrocious! Well, my spelling mostly. Either way, I've always struggled with language in general. My brain is not wired for it. All of the grammar skills I have, I have learned from mistakes over the years and realizing that the only way for my writing to improve (and writing is super important to me, as it is a form of communication), is to improve grammar with it as well. All of the rules I know for it I have blunt memorized. From a stylistic point of view I sort of just learned what sounds good and appeared well written and just go with it. In a nutshell, I learned in a very backwards way so I do have frequent errors. Although it is not nearly as bad as it used to be.

Haha yup, I am a taurus. I don't bring it up much because I don't feel like it is a big part of my identity. Nevertheless, it is a part of me. It is one of the important placements that keeps me grounded. Or at the very least, acts as a tether that will help bring be back down to earth when I get lost (which is somewhat frequent).

Yeah, the guy I was with was actually a horrible astrology match for me. He had a virgo mercury and venus (both of which squared mine). I've since learned that virgo mercury is often bad news for me. I clash with them really bad. He also had a libra moon, which for me is bad; they freak me out. It bridges this world between the mind and emotion in such a way that I can't do and it scares me! haha.

You're different from me in the sense that you're able to just kind of, so something, and it works out without having to consider so many things. There's generally a much more carefree attitude about you as well which is so unlike me, and I try very hard to be that way.

I don't like admitting it much, but I have so much heavy energy that I need to hang around people who are much lighter then I am myself. At least, some of my friends. When it comes to romantic interests though, the guy has to be like that.

posted February 14, 2012 12:32 AM            

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Ahem, arguments aside, I have a Cancer friend with a Scorpio rising and Pluto in da first. She's supah good at reading people, [b]when she really wants.

Hmm...I think Pisces is the least best at reading people. Cancer is great right away with people (later becomes more self-interested, as Xiiro said), and Scorpio builds over time, as it learns/observes/whatevah.

And who said Capricorn is a terrible judge of character!? One Capricorn I know is supah good at it (Moon, and pretty much everything else, in Capricorn) but she'd rather say "whatever, don't care." [/B]

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Capricorns are excellent judges of character in my opinion. Sure, they view me as having the attention span and depth of a gnat but oh well, that's their opinion.

posted February 14, 2012 12:59 AM            

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Impeccable grammar?! My grammar is atrocious! Well, my spelling mostly. Either way, I've always struggled with language in general. My brain is not wired for it. All of the grammar skills I have, I have learned from mistakes over the years and realizing that the only way for my writing to improve (and writing is super important to me, as it is a form of communication), is to improve grammar with it as well. All of the rules I know for it I have blunt memorized. From a stylistic point of view I sort of just learned what sounds good and appeared well written and just go with it. In a nutshell, I learned in a very backwards way so I do have frequent errors. Although it is not nearly as bad as it used to be.

Haha yup, I am a taurus. I don't bring it up much because I don't feel like it is a big part of my identity. Nevertheless, it is a part of me. It is one of the important placements that keeps me grounded. Or at the very least, acts as a tether that will help bring be back down to earth when I get lost (which is somewhat frequent).

Yeah, the guy I was with was actually a horrible astrology match for me. He had a virgo mercury and venus (both of which squared mine). I've since learned that virgo mercury is often bad news for me. I clash with them really bad. He also had a libra moon, which for me is bad; they freak me out. It bridges this world between the mind and emotion in such a way that I can't do and it scares me! haha.

You're different from me in the sense that you're able to just kind of, so something, and it works out without having to consider so many things. There's generally a much more carefree attitude about you as well which is so unlike me, and I try very hard to be that way.

I don't like admitting it much, but I have so much heavy energy that I need to hang around people who are much lighter then I am myself. At least, some of my friends. When it comes to romantic interests though, the guy has to be like that.

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Omg. I'm coming to find out Virgo and Libra anything irritate the hell out of me. I have a Libra friend with Virgo Mercury. Very smart, but horrible at witty banter. Not witty banter, more like subtle banter. Drives me nuts because I can't be blunt and make fun of a customer right as their standing there but he doesn't understand my inferences sometimes.

And sure I might be a writing/Journaslim major but I have no idea about pronouns or whathaveyou. I just know what sounds well-written and what doesn't and I like it lol.

I hate being carefree if you must know. Intense people have such a better handle on maintaining relationships than I do. People come and go throughout my life and I'd like them to stay once in awhile.

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
...Sure, they view me as having the attention span and depth of a gnat but oh well, that's their opinion...

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