posted February 13, 2012 01:59 AM            

I have a Cancer rising Pisces friend, with her moon in Libra and although she seems pretty accurate I know other Pisces placed people (say that three times fast, lol) who are completely off in their own world.

I know aspects and houses factor in when you're getting to the nitty gritty, but in general what has been your experience when it comes to their accuracy?

posted February 13, 2012 02:11 AM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
I think all water sun sign people can read people incredibly well despite moon sign. I think cancer is probably the best placement at reading people. I know the famous one is scorpio, but i know way too many cancer moon, sun and rising people who are great at reading people and way too many scorpio sun, moon, and rising people who either seem to be oblivious or look too deep into things looking for a fly in the ointment where there is none. I think pisces are good at it too but not as good as cancers. Pisces tends to trust everyone though and see the best of everyone

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I agree about Pisces and seeing the best in everyone. Pisces love to trust people, and even when they get hurt they are optimistic it's for a purpose. And THANK YOU about the oblivious thing and Scorpios. My BFF is like that, or can be, and I have to sit there and spell it out ... and then she gets offended lol. She acts somewhat Piscean trying to see the best in everyone instead of the truth.

posted February 13, 2012 02:45 AM            

Cancer is the first water sign on the zodiac wheel. Least advanced of the water signs, subjective, defensive. Ruled by the Moon, which revolves around us (I.e. dependant).

posted February 13, 2012 02:57 AM            

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Anyway, so if my friend has Cancer rising then she's probalby better than most Pisces at reading people and being RIGHT, right?

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Lol yeah...I guess that's an exception to my "theory"
ha.. But yeah I think so for sure. I mean all the cancer rising people i know are fabulous at reading people. I think it's more of whether someone is "trustworthy" or not though or i guess another way of putting it is that it's a more superficial reading into people. I think cancer sun people are great at seeing someone's "true" nature and the reasons behind why they act they way they do. Almost like being able to know someone pretty well after only talking to them a few times. That's bc cancer suns are very complex themselves, so they easily understand and see the conplexity in others and understanding others is where they get all their
compassion from. Or rather, they have so much compassion, because they innately understand others.

posted February 13, 2012 03:08 AM            

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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
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Cancer is the first water sign on the zodiac wheel. Least advanced of the water signs, subjective, defensive. Ruled by the Moon, which revolves around us (I.e. dependant).

Scorpio and Pisces are ruled by powerful IMPERSONAL planets.

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Actually, I would say the moon, because it rules emotions itself, would be the one to understand others' emotions the best. And by the way, Saturn, the MOST impersonal planet, makes Capricorns terrible judges of character simply because Capricorn is the worst at understanding its own and, as a result, others' emotions. Conversely, that's what it needs to learn from it's opposite, Cancer, who happens to understand it's own emotions really well, and as a result can understand others' really well, too.

And, by the way, it's dependent, not dependant. It's like confident and confidant. Dependant is a noun. And actually, wouldn't you say the moon has pretty strong power over the earth, as it rules everybodys' emotional states? Doesn't seem very "dependent" to me.

It bothers me that you would rank on Cancer suns so much in one post, so I had to. Sorry. And just to add a final touch .........

posted February 13, 2012 03:13 AM            

Fire reads through sensation, the energy that radiates off people is translated to fire signs through feelings in the body (similar to how heat outside your body can cause feelings of cozy and contentment inside the body). It is the reason Aries can react so quickly when they sense danger. Leo rules drama, because they are master manipulators of the "flavor" of the energy that radiates from their being. Sag is capable of changing the mood of a room and inspiring others to join them in general mayhem.

Earth reads through intuition (oddly enough), It is one of the reasons Virgo rules the gut. Earth signs utilize all their physical senses to collect data, but their final decision is based on how that data feels. Taurus only participates with things that their senses feel are best quality, Virgo analyzes their environment and tests the data against their gut to determine the appropriate approach to each situation, and Capricorn uses an intuitive impression of their environment to determine what actions and materials can be used to yield the most beneficial results.

posted February 13, 2012 03:14 AM            

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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
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Cancer is the first water sign on the zodiac wheel. Least advanced of the water signs, subjective, defensive. Ruled by the Moon, which revolves around us (I.e. dependant).

Scorpio and Pisces are ruled by powerful IMPERSONAL planets.

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posted February 13, 2012 03:19 AM            

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Pisces love to trust people, and even when they get hurt they are optimistic it's for a purpose.

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Yeah...Neptune and their love of seeing the beauty and idealism in everything. Neptune definitely equals oblivion. But, even so, I still think pisces are pretty perceptive into people's true nature AT TIMES. Then they go back to being all idealistic. It's like they can't ever stay thinking badly of anyone.

posted February 13, 2012 03:28 AM            

I have Mercury conjunct Jupiter in Pisces (in the 5th).

Other than that I have very little water in my chart. Nothing in Scorpio, only MC in Cancer and Neptune in Sag in the 3rd. I also have nothing in Earth but my POF and IC.

I trust nobody and I am pessimistic in a hopeful way if that makes sense.

posted February 13, 2012 03:31 AM            

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Cancers I have met, have a tendency to fly off into selfish land (AKA okay enough about you, how do I feel and how can you make me feel better?)

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What does that have to do with Cancers' ability to read people? Huh? But, by the way, that is true about Cancers. You don't understand the reason for the behavior at all and seem to be putting it in a negative light. But that is true. Cancers do that to connect on a deeper level with people.

posted February 13, 2012 03:50 AM            

I have an airy friend who lacks water for the most part. I have Cancer AC and Pisces stuff. We had a conversation way back in September last yr when she asked me what I thought about a particular guy. The truth is I thought he was creepy.. and not just slightly creepy - I mean I got really bad vibes from him. I had a strong feeling that he was a mysoginist but the feeling went further - I could actually see him being physically abusive towards a woman. At the time I didn't get to tell her these things. Having a Pisces Merc I can also intuit people's reactions to what I might say and I knew that my friend would not hear me out and that she'd completely take it the wrong way. So all I said was "I'm not sure. He doesn't really seem like my kind of person. Something about him makes me think he might be a womanizer, but obviously I don't know him." I toned it down basically. But even so she instantly overreacted to what I said: "What? Him? No! He's a really nice guy. I'm sure you must've just misinterpreted something." So I backed off 100% and said "ya I guess...." and then I went quiet because I don't believe it's ok for me to interfere in someone else's life. I thought that maybe it was really just in my head. I'm positive judging by her reaction at that time and her facial expression that she could've easily written this thread herself if she was into astrology. I'm positive that in that moment she thought "what an exaggerated thing to say" - and had she known about my Pisces placements she might've thought: "Must be typical Pisces behaviour making stuff up etc. not being able to distinguish fact from fiction."

Months later, about two weeks ago we had a conversation about the same guy. She told me that they were at a formal dinner together where she found out he had a gf (this is after he made out with my friend and went on two dates with her and never mentioned being in relationship). At this dinner he was apparently very rude to his gf. He kept flirting with other girls, putting his arm around them and doing really inappropriate things. And this wasn't like a party. It was a more formal work-related event. His gf was upset and crying in the bathroom. Plus he completely ignored my friend all night as though he had never met her. My friend was now very angry with him -and telling me how much of a jerk he is. She didn't seem to remember our convo in September at all nor did I bring it up. I'm pretty sure that if a similar thing happened again she would think I was delusional all over again. People have a way of remembering only those things that go along with their pre-existing beliefs about the world. As a Pisces influenced person I'll never say "I told you so" nor will I try to prove something or explain myself because I don't feel like this would help the person in any way. I don't start arguments when it's basically futile.

What I'm getting at is that - your watery friends probably won't explain themselves to you or try to prove the accuracy of their beliefs.. unless they have other fiestier placements. So if you want to check their accuracy you have to remember what they told you and be patient enough to figure out if they were correct - as time goes on.

posted February 13, 2012 05:01 AM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Xiiro

What does that have to do with Cancers' ability to read people? Huh? But, by the way, that is true about Cancers. You don't understand the reason for the behavior at all and seem to be putting it in a negative light. But that is true. Cancers do that to connect on a deeper level with people.

I think all signs and all people use their intuition, it's just that Water signs have a harder time putting their intuition into words.

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Apparently Cancers are good at reading people, but not so great at reading quotes before they accuse people of not knowing what they are talking about. That sentence you only partially quoted started with, "I agree that Cancer is best at reading people initially" which means I actually agree with you that Cancers are the best out of all water signs at reading people in their day to day lives. You stated that I don't understand the reason for the behavior (though I was raised by a Cancer mother and a Scorpio father, have close relationships with Cancers and my Sun's ruler is in Cancer), yet agree that my comment was true. I admit I'm a bit confused.

To answer your question, that applies to Cancer's ability to read people, because reading a person requires more than a first impression or one's "comfortable idea" of who that person is. The Moon still has astronaut foot prints in it's face, from almost 50 years ago. In the same way Cancer gains an impression and builds the rest of their view around that impression. Regardless of how deeply a Cancer reads someone initially, the lack of ability to maintain that read, renders them only partially informed. If you feel that process in someway connects Cancers to others on a deeper level, then yes I admit to not understanding Cancers deepening process. Being a cardinal sign and built to initiate, (not maintain or transform) is not a "negative light', it is a characteristic Cancer shares with three other zodiac signs.

posted February 13, 2012 05:36 AM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
And by the way, Saturn, the MOST impersonal planet, makes Capricorns terrible judges of character simply because Capricorn is the worst at understanding its own

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In my little astro book it says:
Capricorns are not very good judges of character. If a friendship goes wrong, because of bad judgement in the first place, Capricorn may turn hateful. If a Capricorn suspects a friend of deception, he or she will start to suspect all friends. Sometimes Capricorn tests the trustworthiness of friends several times.

you just reminded me of it haha. I've read it a million times and i never understood it. i think i even got mad at it. Like how is this book telling me I cant make friends! but i think i understand it better now.

posted February 13, 2012 05:44 AM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Actually, I would say the moon, because it rules emotions itself, would be the one to understand others' emotions the best. And by the way, Saturn, the MOST impersonal planet, makes Capricorns terrible judges of character simply because Capricorn is the worst at understanding its own and, as a result, others' emotions. Conversely, that's what it needs to learn from it's opposite, Cancer, who happens to understand it's own emotions really well, and as a result can understand others' really well, too.

And, by the way, it's dependent, not dependant. It's like confident and confidant. Dependant is a noun. And actually, wouldn't you say the moon has pretty strong power over the earth, as it rules everybodys' emotional states? Doesn't seem very "dependent" to me.

It bothers me that you would rank on Cancer suns so much in one post, so I had to. Sorry. And just to add a final touch .........

Lol.

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posted February 13, 2012 09:35 AM            

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Apparently Cancers are good at reading people, but not so great at reading quotes before they accuse people of not knowing what they are talking about.

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Well, gee. You don't need to be so uptight.
I'm not "accusing you of not knowing what you're talking about."

posted February 13, 2012 11:52 AM            

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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
[B]Hannarama - When one of these friends share their thoughts, feelings, hunches and judgements with you - try to check their accuracy. Don't mistrust them and think they are lost in a dream world - based on your gut feelings alone.

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posted February 13, 2012 11:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Moonfish:
I'm Sun Scorpio 8H
Moon Pisces 12H
Pisces ascendant
Scorpio mars 8H
Scorpio pluto 8H

I can read people pretty well... i guess lol

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Haha! I would never try to hoodwink you, ever.