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L0veLess
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posted February 13, 2012 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for L0veLess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So I keep hearing that i should be reducing the orb to 40% which is a max of 3 degrees apart i think. But it makes the birth charts look so barren. How necessary is it to have it at 40% and not the default that astro.com gives? What are yur opinions? I miss all the aspects my chart has when it's not on 40%! D:

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alaz7200
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posted February 13, 2012 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alaz7200     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's all relative to what each individual feels, but personally, I have found the following to be accurate:

Conjunction: 8'
Opposition: 6'
Square: 5'
Trine & Sextile: 4'
Quintile & BiQuintile - 3'

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Moonfish
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posted February 13, 2012 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read that 3 degs is max in Synastry. For me personally I think 5-7 degs is good for natal, but I could be wrong.

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L0veLess
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posted February 14, 2012 03:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for L0veLess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ahhh its all so subjective i hate this @_@ i think that makes more sense to have 40% for synastry only and have a little more wiggle room in natal charts.

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RedScorp
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posted February 14, 2012 03:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by L0veLess:
But it makes the birth charts look so barren.

LOL. I use 90% and it works fine for me!

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L0veLess
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posted February 14, 2012 03:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for L0veLess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
! yay okay ill just use what they give me then. SaggiMC had me all stressin' sayin i needed to use 40% cos its what 'modern' astrologists use etc... phew -_-

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yuting
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posted February 14, 2012 04:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yuting     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by L0veLess:
! yay okay ill just use what they give me then. SaggiMC had me all stressin' sayin i needed to use 40% cos its what 'modern' astrologists use etc... phew -_-

I like to use about 65% (if 100% default they show aspects with orbs up to 10' which is really too wide). But astrology is no rocket science. Sometimes I vary the orbs. For example, when 2 people have heavily aspected charts (esp when at least 1 personal planet/luminary/angle is involved), I will reduce the orb to help see the strongest themes. When 2 charts have few aspects, I widen the orb to at least get a feel where there is more energy flow.

However, for asteroids (as they are small and weak), keep the orbs tight. Even our asteroid expert Iq is not looking at anything more than 3' orb (for conjunction, less for other aspects).

In any case, dont kid yourself by widening the orb if there are really few aspects. Sometimes, 2 persons just do not interact as closely and affect each other as much as maybe another 2 persons with more aspects(ie lack of aspects indicates indifference). This is esp true in synastry where there are few aspects and those involved personal planets/angles/luminaries are lope-sided to one person only. This is when you see one person feeling strongly towards/infatuated by another person, while the other person is not even aware of the first person.

One more note: for astro.com, the orb shown in the aspect grid is rounded down (ie 5'45" will be 5'), so if you want to use a within 8' orb, you should only count up to 7' in astro.com aspect grid

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yuting
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posted February 14, 2012 04:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yuting     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by L0veLess:
ahhh its all so subjective i hate this @_@ i think that makes more sense to have 40% for synastry only and have a little more wiggle room in natal charts.

I use wider orbs for natal and less for synastry/composite too, cos in most cases, we are more self-aware as an individual, so that we are likely to feel more subtle natal aspect energy, while we might be less sensitive to relationship aspect energy.

I like using 70-75% for natal and 55-65% for relationships.

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Ceridwen
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posted February 14, 2012 04:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
6° and 3° as a rough guideline.

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SaggiMC
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posted February 14, 2012 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by L0veLess:
So I keep hearing that i should be reducing the orb to 40% which is a max of 3 degrees apart i think. But it makes the birth charts look so barren. How necessary is it to have it at 40% and not the default that astro.com gives? What are yur opinions? I miss all the aspects my chart has when it's not on 40%! D:

you ONLY do this for synstry bi wheels

Basic astrology forum, How to approach Synastry http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000667.html
when you get this chart, please also post the *pdf file*, above left should be *view additional tables (PDF)* This will bring up the aspect grid –at a glance planet to planet. Post the whole PDF file, what we are looking for if scroll down to ‘partner comparison’ aspect grid

Please remember to reduce the orb ratio down to 40% as the max orb between planets is 3'

Basic astrology forum, Learn the basics, Free courses + House systems. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000671.html

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SaggiMC
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posted February 14, 2012 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RedScorp:
LOL. I use 90% and it works fine for me!

actually I reduce the orb ratio down to 85% for natal charts as this brings it in line with mainstream views..

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SaggiMC
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posted February 14, 2012 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by L0veLess:
! yay okay ill just use what they give me then. SaggiMC had me all stressin' sayin i needed to use 40% cos its what 'modern' astrologists use etc... phew -_-

yes I WOULD say this for SYNASTRY BI WHEELS

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posted February 14, 2012 08:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
6° and 3° as a rough guideline.

orbs http://www.astrologyweekly.com/dictionary/orbs.php http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/aspects.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horoscope http://www.myastrologybook.com/aspects-and-orbs.htm http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_aspect_e.htm http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7107&highlight=orbs http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7867&highlight=orbs

I use---
+ or - 8' for conj, square and oppositions
luminaries get 10'
sextiles and trines get + or - 6'
quincunxs + or - 3'

THESE are mainstream views...

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L0veLess
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posted February 14, 2012 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for L0veLess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks guys!

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lu_pirate
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posted February 14, 2012 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lu_pirate     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by alaz7200:
It's all relative to what each individual feels, but personally, I have found the following to be accurate:

Conjunction: 8'
Opposition: 6'
Square: 5'
Trine & Sextile: 4'
Quintile & BiQuintile - 3'


But trine and sextile are the same? I would put trines the same as squares, and with 6 degrees.

Also, there are differences if the sun is aspecting or other planet is!

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Ceridwen
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posted February 14, 2012 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SaggiMC:
orbs http://www.astrologyweekly.com/dictionary/orbs.php http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/aspects.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horoscope http://www.myastrologybook.com/aspects-and-orbs.htm http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_aspect_e.htm http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7107&highlight=orbs http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7867&highlight=orbs

I use---
+ or - 8' for conj, square and oppositions
luminaries get 10'
sextiles and trines get + or - 6'
quincunxs + or - 3'

THESE are mainstream views...


Thank you for the information,b ut I am not really interested in mainstream views.
I have my reasons for the orbs I am using.

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athenegoddess
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posted February 14, 2012 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Exact orbs are the best and what I always look for. Orbs widen if there are multiple planets and themes.

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SaggiMC
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posted February 15, 2012 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Thank you for the information,b ut I am not really interested in mainstream views.
I have my reasons for the orbs I am using.


yep, no problem, I was just giving a *starting point* for newbies

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