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Topic: are water signs expert spin doctors?
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aquaguy91 Knowflake Posts: 312 From: zeta reticuli Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 13, 2012 11:49 PM
in my experience with water signs i have noticed that if they hurt you or betray you and when you confront them about it, they will give you a sob story and make it all about them and their pain and how hard their life is,and try to make you out to be the bad guy.this has been my experience with a few atleast,and it just happened tonight with a cancer girl i thought was my friend who has been acting shady. has anyone else noticed this with water signs? IP: Logged |
mintgirl123 Knowflake Posts: 1999 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted February 14, 2012 12:14 AM
hahahaha yeah! They like to act that way and have a tendency to make it out that they're the victim. IP: Logged |
Moonfish Knowflake Posts: 815 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 14, 2012 12:14 AM
LOL well I must be the queen huh?Scorpio sun 8H Pisces moon 12H Pisces ascendant Scorpio mars 8H Scorpio pluto 8H all scorpio placements conjunct, and trine ascendant. To be honest I've never been in that situation. I don't remember the last time I lied/betrayed someone, and if I did I rarely got caught XD But all I can say is if it did happen I probably wouldn't be able to look them in the eyes because I'd be so embarrased... a Scorpio being exposed? That's the biggest shot to our egos. All I know is if I'm caught red handed I'd be an adult and say I'm sorry, but make up a sob story?? LOl No, if somebody is upset with me I figure the last thing they would do is have any sympathy for my problems. So to try to have that person pity me would be a waste of time - Logic IP: Logged |
Libreo Knowflake Posts: 658 From: Australia Registered: Sep 2011
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posted February 14, 2012 12:26 AM
My first instinct was to say "yes totally". But then I thought of my teenage daughter who is Pisces with Scorpio ASC conjunct moon and she is the first to admit her wrong and genuinely apologise. She is no victim either, she has so much inner strength it's scary. Even I'm intimidated. I don't dare do her wrong, (I did the other day and I learnt my lesson, I hacked her fb and 'liked' my status so it looked like she did....thinking she'd never notice, she did. One look from her and I vowed to never do it again, then it was forgotten). She's no sook that's for sure.IP: Logged |
Moonfish Knowflake Posts: 815 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 14, 2012 12:38 AM
quote: Originally posted by Libreo: My first instinct was to say "yes totally". But then I thought of my teenage daughter who is Pisces with Scorpio ASC conjunct moon and she is the first to admit her wrong and genuinely apologise. She is no victim either, she has so much inner strength it's scary. Even I'm intimidated. I don't dare do her wrong, (I did the other day and I learnt my lesson, I hacked her fb and 'liked' my status so it looked like she did....thinking she'd never notice, she did. One look from her and I vowed to never do it again, then it was forgotten). She's no sook that's for sure.
Good for her :] well.. not the part about her intimidating you or anything. lol IP: Logged |
Libreo Knowflake Posts: 658 From: Australia Registered: Sep 2011
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posted February 14, 2012 12:56 AM
Thankyou :-) I'd like to take the credit but no....it's definately her placements. Her sister is nothing like her!IP: Logged |
SaggiMC Knowflake Posts: 1431 From: UK Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 14, 2012 06:02 AM
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: in my experience with water signs i have noticed that if they hurt you or betray you and when you confront them about it, they will give you a sob story and make it all about them and their pain and how hard their life is,and try to make you out to be the bad guy.this has been my experience with a few atleast,and it just happened tonight with a cancer girl i thought was my friend who has been acting shady. has anyone else noticed this with water signs?
All water signs can be sulky and moody and play mind games and scorpio has an A level in it. There are major differences between these three though. Perhaps when you learn more about astrology, you will amend your observations.. Basic astrology forum, Learn the basics + House systems. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000671.html you should also remember, planets are modified by signs, where they express are houses and how they express are *aspects* ------------------ I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.” IP: Logged |
Moonfish Knowflake Posts: 815 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 14, 2012 09:45 AM
quote: Originally posted by SaggiMC: All water signs can be sulky and moody and play mind games and scorpio has an A level in it. There are major differences between these three though. Perhaps when you learn more about astrology, you will amend your observations..Basic astrology forum, Learn the basics + House systems. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000671.html you should also remember, planets are modified by signs, where they express are houses and how they express are *aspects*
Unless you are the signs, or have them dominate your chart then you don't have the right stereotype everyone who happens to be a water sign :/ IP: Logged |
Moonfish Knowflake Posts: 815 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 14, 2012 09:46 AM
quote: Originally posted by Libreo: Thankyou :-) I'd like to take the credit but no....it's definately her placements. Her sister is nothing like her!
Your welcome :] IP: Logged |
hippichick Moderator Posts: 1021 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted February 14, 2012 09:47 AM
quote: Originally posted by Moonfish: Unless you are the signs, or have them dominate your chart then you don't have the right stereotype everyone who happens to be a water sign :/
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hippichick Moderator Posts: 1021 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted February 14, 2012 09:48 AM
quote: Originally posted by mintgirl123: hahahaha yeah! They like to act that way and have a tendency to make it out that they're the victim.
Often we are the victim, cause we let people walk all over us... IP: Logged |
Moonfish Knowflake Posts: 815 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 14, 2012 09:50 AM
quote: Originally posted by hippichick: Often we are the victim, cause we let people walk all over us...
Thanks for the thumbs up, but NOT this water sign. I grew up in a tough environment and I don't let anyone walk over me IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 27425 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 14, 2012 09:57 AM
Water is emotion, feeling, empathy etc To me, the saddest void is a water void. With all signs are good and bad. However, to me, I love having water, in my chart. Water is kind of the root of warm fuzzies and I love warm fuzzies ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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hippichick Moderator Posts: 1021 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted February 14, 2012 11:10 AM
Moonfish, really me either, but it has taken me almost 5o years to learn this...Instead of being walked on, I had a time of life where I stated my opinion and opened my mouth about everything Which, got me nowhere, but into trouble. So now I just watch, witness what is going on. My 20 year Aqua said a very meaningful thing recently, "Pisces are so sweet, but they have tiny, little delicate backbones.." (like fish) She says out of all the water signs, Pisces needs to develop backbone!
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RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 2293 From: USA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted February 14, 2012 11:29 AM
quote: Originally posted by mintgirl123: hahahaha yeah! They like to act that way and have a tendency to make it out that they're the victim.
Yeah lol, i do do that. We just have the tendency to think that we're the victim in general. We think the world will excuse us because it will want to be sensitive to our feelings IP: Logged |
pandacake Knowflake Posts: 118 From: Europe Registered: May 2011
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posted February 15, 2012 06:14 AM
Lol I recognize your story. I know someone who uses emotional manipulation to get her way. But I don't believe all water signs are like that. You have bad and good of everything and it's up to the individual to choose what values to follow in life. I have also met water signs that are the whole other side of the spectrum. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 291 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 15, 2012 07:24 AM
The water signs I know would give you the shirt off their backs and think nothing of it. They can't understand people who lack empathy. So they expect things to just come to them when they are in need....just like they GIVE, unasked, when others are in need.It aggravates them to ever be in a position where they need help and no one will give it. 'Just seems unfair, since they are always the ones dishing out and making sacrifices for others. I've seen water sign people turn bitter and even vindictive about this, or get very hurt. But most of them have matured into extremely self-reliant people who make it a point to never ask anyone for anything anymore. Some can't even accept gifts comfortably. IP: Logged |
hippichick Moderator Posts: 1021 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted February 15, 2012 10:44 AM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: The water signs I know would give you the shirt off their backs and think nothing of it. They can't understand people who lack empathy. So they expect things to just come to them when they are in need....just like they GIVE, unasked, when others are in need.It aggravates them to ever be in a position where they need help and no one will give it. 'Just seems unfair, since they are always the ones dishing out and making sacrifices for others. I've seen water sign people turn bitter and even vindictive about this, or get very hurt. But most of them have matured into extremely self-reliant people who make it a point to never ask anyone for anything anymore. Some can't even accept gifts comfortably.
Very well said~ IP: Logged |
hippichick Moderator Posts: 1021 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted February 15, 2012 10:46 AM
quote: Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming: Yeah lol, i do do that. We just have the tendency to think that we're the victim in general. We think the world will excuse us because it will want to be sensitive to our feelings
Yes! And I have had some hard lessons on thinking the world will be "sensative" to my sensitivity~
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SaggiMC Knowflake Posts: 1431 From: UK Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 15, 2012 12:12 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Water is emotion, feeling, empathy etc To me, the saddest void is a water void. With all signs are good and bad. However, to me, I love having water, in my chart. Water is kind of the root of warm fuzzies and I love warm fuzzies
there are MANY ways a chart can compensate, for example have water Asc, planets in water houses. neptune singleton like myself, many neptune aspects to personal planets..IP: Logged |
SaggiMC Knowflake Posts: 1431 From: UK Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 15, 2012 12:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: The water signs I know would give you the shirt off their backs and think nothing of it. They can't understand people who lack empathy. So they expect things to just come to them when they are in need....just like they GIVE, unasked, when others are in need.It aggravates them to ever be in a position where they need help and no one will give it. 'Just seems unfair, since they are always the ones dishing out and making sacrifices for others. I've seen water sign people turn bitter and even vindictive about this, or get very hurt. But most of them have matured into extremely self-reliant people who make it a point to never ask anyone for anything anymore. Some can't even accept gifts comfortably.
yep, I agree water signs can be sensitive, but oversensitive. I can abide woment who burst into tears and lose control. All the world and it's wife takes their problems to a pisces and can 'put on them' to much, but when they want/need it back don't always get it either...IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 2293 From: USA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted February 15, 2012 02:35 PM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: The water signs I know would give you the shirt off their backs and think nothing of it. They can't understand people who lack empathy. So they expect things to just come to them when they are in need....just like they GIVE, unasked, when others are in need.It aggravates them to ever be in a position where they need help and no one will give it. 'Just seems unfair, since they are always the ones dishing out and making sacrifices for others. I've seen water sign people turn bitter and even vindictive about this, or get very hurt. But most of them have matured into extremely self-reliant people who make it a point to never ask anyone for anything anymore. Some can't even accept gifts comfortably.
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Faith Knowflake Posts: 291 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 16, 2012 09:43 AM
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All the world and it's wife takes their problems to a pisces and can 'put on them' to much, but when they want/need it back don't always get it either...
Right. This is my Pisces best friend. She lived with a guy for ten years, paid his mortgage for him, had a baby with him. When she left, she didn't ask for any money. She refused to take him to court to pay child support, because he's self-employed and gets paid sporadically. She was afraid they'd put a warrant out for his arrest when he was broke. After a year of never asking him for a thing, she was dead broke during the holidays, and asked him to pitch in for something for their daughter. His response? "If you sleep with me." So she wanted to puke for a week and resolved once again- don't ask anyone for anything no matter what.
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hippichick Moderator Posts: 1021 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted February 16, 2012 10:21 AM
quote: Originally posted by SaggiMC:[/b]
yep, I agree water signs can be sensitive, but oversensitive. I can abide woment who burst into tears and lose control. All the world and it's wife takes their problems to a pisces and can 'put on them' to much, but when they want/need it back don't always get it either...Well, once again, one needs to take into consideration the whole chart~with a Scorpio rising, people hesitate to get to know me, but once they do, then they just tell me...everything. And with my huge Aqua influence, I will go to extreams to not ask for help, I hate asking for emotional support, I really dont even do it, I dislike it so much. Most of the men I have dated say I am too independent...but I am what I am! IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 291 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 16, 2012 11:40 AM
Maybe the more water a person has in their chart, and the way its placed and aspected, determines how their empathy functions?I think of it almost like a sixth sense. The other senses vary widely amongst people (and animals)...some people are color blind, some see color imbued with an almost spiritual essence, some have eyes like a hawk... So, too, with empathy and how it functions? Some feel others' pain so keenly that they never want to inflict it, because then they have to partake of whatever unpleasantness they set in motion. Some are more adept at shutting it off or selectively tuning in. IP: Logged |