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RedScorp
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posted February 18, 2012 03:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
H'okay, so, do people with a Scorpio Venus just know who they could have a future with and who they'd likely eventually break up with...? It might not be healthy to predict the length of a relationship like that, but I know some people with this placement, myself included, who do that - predicting, desire aside.

Perhaps it's their thinking and their assuming that wills the relationship into the outcome...? I dunno. Personally, I suppose I could blame my Saturn in the Seventh House (Whole Signs).

EXAMPLE! My Libra friend (with a Scorpio Venus) said that she didn't think her last relationship would endure very long - a year she guessed. I told her that I had tried not to think of such, ahaha.

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posted February 18, 2012 03:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey RedScorp! Long time no talk, webcam buddy.

(Mars in scorpio here)
With your friend and her boyfriends situation;I think that particular case may have been chance & maybe you could tell the relationship didn't have much of a future.

I do concur that this sign is well known for being able to pick up information with their keenness of their sixth sense. They are known to being able to read their friends like a book. Especially when it is your venus sign! (how you view relationships)

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posted February 18, 2012 04:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
Hey RedScorp! Long time no talk, webcam buddy.

YEAH! Where've you been, foo'!?

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posted February 18, 2012 04:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RedScorp:
H'okay, so, do people with a Scorpio Venus just know who they could have a future with and who they'd likely eventually break up with...? It might not be healthy to predict the length of a relationship like that, but I know some people with this placement, myself included, who do that - predicting, desire aside.

Perhaps it's their thinking and their assuming that wills the relationship into the outcome...? I dunno. Personally, I suppose I could blame Saturn in the Seventh House (Whole Signs).

EXAMPLE! My Libra friend (with a Scorpio Venus) said that she didn't think her last relationship would endure very long - a year she guessed. I told her that I had tried not to think of such, ahaha.


Yes, yes and yes.
Like the previous poster said, we have a well-developed 6th sense.
BUT -and it's a big BUT here- be aware of self-fulfilled prophecy!
It's one thing to "sense" something and a totally different one to tie it as a flag and sail with that as guide. So, don't become too preoccupied with your 6th sense to the point of bringing on what you fear. Focus on the positive. Say, you want a relationship to work but you can see it's volatile; well, instead of expecting its demise, focus on how to make it stronger.
Not easy but better in terms of peace of mind.

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posted February 18, 2012 05:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I experience this all the time, but I assumed it was Neptune conj Sun in Sag (clairvoyance). If a partner, job, event, etc. feels like a fantasy when I think about it, it won't happen or last. Sometimes I can figure out what will happen by thinking about other possibilities. If I find a possibility that feels like a scheduled appointment, it tends to be the lasting outcome.

It's sort of annoying because the feeling isn't some grand foreboding wave, it just makes the object feel like a story someone told me. I still ignore the feeling if I want something badly enough and it's a pretty easy feeling to overlook. It usually becomes noticeable when I start thinking about how much I like or want the object, then Wah Waaaah the feeling appears.

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posted February 18, 2012 05:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anongrl10:
BUT -and it's a big BUT here- be aware of self-fulfilled prophecy!

THAT'S THE PHRASE I WAS THINKING OF EARLIER.

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posted February 18, 2012 05:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Yup -- I knew that was what you were trying to say.

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I agree with anongirl10,

also its not just venus in scorpio that does this kind of thing, as another member mentioned sun conj neptune. there are lots of things that can suggest clairvoyance, mediumship and/or 6th sense....

Scorpio sun, moon Asc
Planets in 8th house of scorpio
Neptune in aspects to sun, moon Asc

Now venus in scorpio doesn't act alone, it usally has asepcts within a chart. so just remember planets are modified by signs, where they express are houses and how they express are *aspects*

for example venus in scorpio (or any signs) in hard aspect to saturn for example, would have a hard time expressing anything. same for Uranus and neptune.

now considering venus can only be upto two signs away from your sun sign. A venus in scorpio with sun in capricorn and mercury in aquarius will not bother so much with 6th sense mattters due to capricorn being earth and ambitious and workaholic most times.Mercury in Aquarius won't even trust venus in scorpio because it's not logical and the inner conflict would be freedom and independence (at all costs) while venus in scorpio will have problems letting go, both would be fixed therefore stubborn...

so there are a multitude of expressions, combinations I could think of that would amend the expressions of venus in scorpio, as this planet doesn't act or express alone, it's just a *facet of our personality*

so talking about generics such as a planet is a sign is ONLY taking into account 1/3 of what you should be talking about,the other 2/3 are house and aspects. Personally I would prefer to SEE a chart where planents are posited and how they are aspected for a more full picture rathter than seeing just 1/3 of a picture.!!!!

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posted February 18, 2012 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SaggiMC:
also its not just venus in scorpio that does this kind of thing, as another member mentioned sun conj neptune. there are lots of things that can suggest clairvoyance, mediumship and/or 6th sense....

Well, I didn't quite mean it being psychic or whatevah - more like this placement gives like, instinct or intuition about the relationship. C:

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Originally posted by RedScorp:
Well, I didn't quite mean it being psychic or whatevah - more like this placement gives like, instinct or intuition about the relationship. C:

AND all I'm saying is those other aspects would do exactly the same thing

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posted February 19, 2012 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for acousticbob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RedScorp:
H'okay, so, do people with a Scorpio Venus just know who they could have a future with and who they'd likely eventually break up with...? It might not be healthy to predict the length of a relationship like that, but I know some people with this placement, myself included, who do that - predicting, desire aside.

Perhaps it's their thinking and their assuming that wills the relationship into the outcome...? I dunno. Personally, I suppose I could blame my Saturn in the Seventh House (Whole Signs).

EXAMPLE! My Libra friend (with a Scorpio Venus) said that she didn't think her last relationship would endure very long - a year she guessed. I told her that I had tried not to think of such, ahaha.


Personally, I think that once a Scorpio venus is involved in a relationship, that 6th sense you talk about is clouded by the signs intensity.

A scorpio venus may 'know' how long a friends relationship will last but only because they are relatively detached.

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posted February 19, 2012 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Personally, I think that once a Scorpio venus is involved in a relationship, that 6th sense you talk about is clouded by the signs intensity.

A scorpio venus may 'know' how long a friends relationship will last but only because they are relatively detached.


Good point, here.

Two, I think Xiiro nailed it about any kind of personal planet making contact with Neptune. I don't have an Scorpio placements in my personal planets but I have Sun and Venus square Neptune and just want to put a big SWAK approval stamp on that statement "feels like a fantasy it means it won't last or happen."

If one is obsessing over something the obsession becomes the focus rather than the object/person being obsessed about (if that makes sense) thus it actually BLOCKS being successful (not always but you get my point). Scorpios tend to be very, uhm, constant? to put it nicely. They fall into a natural rhthym of their own and become so dedicated and involved with the whole inner workings that they develop the condition of not being able to see the forest through the trees, and inevitably the relationship can fail. They can read people and whatnot constantly but the problem is they become obsessed or plagued by their own intuition. No?

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posted February 20, 2012 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
If one is obsessing over something the obsession becomes the focus rather than the object/person being obsessed about (if that makes sense) thus it actually BLOCKS being successful (not always but you get my point). Scorpios tend to be very, uhm, constant? to put it nicely. They fall into a natural rhthym of their own and become so dedicated and involved with the whole inner workings that they develop the condition of not being able to see the forest through the trees, and inevitably the relationship can fail. They can read people and whatnot constantly but the problem is they become obsessed or plagued by their own intuition. No?

That makes perfect sense to me and actually gave me a neat new perspective on my Moon square Neptune... Thanks! I think you described one of the less romantic sides of the Scorpio archetype. Scorpio is emotionally invested in a fixed way; mix that with a person's values and what they find attractive, and that fixed emotional drive surrounds everything/everyone a native finds valuable (God, it scares me to think my dad was a Scorpio who drank coffee... should we not be feeding these people downers? hehe).

To answer your question now that I understand it a bit better RedScorp, I think Venus in Scorpio definitely has the capacity for relationship intuition, but depending on how it is aspected, there is a lot of room for obsession or abstinence. An obsessed Scorpio Venus will be too emotionally caught up in maintaining a connection. If they had a negative intuitive feeling about the relationship, it was overruled a long time ago when Venus in Scorpio decided they were going to choose the person, like a dysfunctional pokemon trainer. An abstaining Scorpio Venus would likely not be in a relationship at all...cause really...who needs to be in a relationship when most people you date make you want to stab them?

I agree with SaggiMC's earlier comment. It really depends on which way the chart is pulling Venus. Generally speaking however, Venus in Scorpio should have the intuitive capacity to feel out the investment potential of any relationship.

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posted February 28, 2012 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for acousticbob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Good point, here.

Two, I think Xiiro nailed it about any kind of personal planet making contact with Neptune. I don't have an Scorpio placements in my personal planets but I have Sun and Venus square Neptune and just want to put a big SWAK approval stamp on that statement "feels like a fantasy it means it won't last or happen."

If one is obsessing over something the obsession becomes the focus rather than the object/person being obsessed about (if that makes sense) thus it actually BLOCKS being successful (not always but you get my point). Scorpios tend to be very, uhm, constant? to put it nicely. They fall into a natural rhthym of their own and become so dedicated and involved with the whole inner workings that they develop the condition of not being able to see the forest through the trees, and inevitably the relationship can fail. They can read people and whatnot constantly but the problem is they become obsessed or plagued by their own intuition. No?



Yes, that makes sense.
The intense feelings/obession of a scorpio venus once involved in a relationship can cause a loss of perspective i.e. small issues get interpreted as being a hint at a more serious problem but also, a large problem may be overlooked or not deemed significant (I think the latter is more likely if neptune is involved somehow)

The 'all or nothing' attitude of scorpio venus in relationships has amazing power for love, transformation and support but also leads the scorpio to feel insecure (and possibly 'self destruct' the relationship) if a partners actions do not fit in with this philosophy.

Its a curse I tells ya! lol

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posted February 29, 2012 07:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will put up some of my articles on the Scorpio Venus. Down Boys

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posted February 29, 2012 07:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Basic Basic Astrology–What is Venus?
By amiann | Published: February 26, 2012 |

Venus is what you find beautiful. Think of an Art Museum. Some people like water colors and pastels. Some people like somber, ponderous art. Some people love sculpture with it’s exquisite detail. Think of music. Some people like refined classical music. Within classical music, there is the lightness of Mozart, the heaviness of Wagner, the complexity of Bach and the emotive nature of Opera.One is attracted to one’s Venus Sign.

One loves in a Venus Sign way, also. One can love in a heavy emotive way such as a Scorpio Venus. One may pour intensity in to one’s lover, emotionally and sexually.One may love as a Gemini Venus, lightly as a butterfly.One may love as a Virgo Venus, wanting purity in one’s lover.One may love as a Capricorn Venus, wanting quality such that one can respect one’s lover. One may love as a Leo Venus, wanting charisma and glamor in his lover. Study your Venus to see what you love and how you love.

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posted February 29, 2012 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus in its Fall–Scorpio
By amiann | Published: February 16, 2012 |

I did an article on Venus in Scorpio, in a man’s chart. The Fall position of a planet is a planet which does not like it’s home/placement. The home may be too big, too small, too hot or too cold. The planet kind of sticks out, like a sore thumb. As such, the Fall position will, always, bristle. Venus is the planet of love and beauty. Scorpio is the most sensual and passionate sign of the Zodiac. Quite simply, Scorpio is too sultry a sign for Venus. I discussed the male Scorpio Venus, so I will concentrate on the woman with Venus in Scorpio. I am not sure who suffers more from the Fall position of Venus, men or woman. My first thought would be woman, but I don’t think you can discriminate.

Across the board, all female Scorpio Venus seem to carry some sort of burden. Do they all admit it? Hardly. Scorpio is a very proud sign. Hence, we can hardly expect them to admit about feeling “oversexed”. However, in private moments, with those whom they trust, I think they will. At any rate, we all have planets in the Detriments and Falls. The planet is different for each person. Hence, each person must deal with one or more energies which do not work well.
The female with Venus in Scorpio may come across as a siren. This Venus may lead with her sexuality. In the same way, other Venus’ lead with what is predominant to them. I will give some examples. Venus in Gemini would lead with her intellect. Sag Venus would lead with her vivacity. Aquarius Venus would lead with her love for humanity. Leo Venus would lead with her glamor. Venus in Scorpio seems as if it tries too hard to be sexy. As such, she may scare men off. Then, wonder what happened. This Venus seems reluctant to take advice from a Venus who may be able to see what is happening, such as a Gemini Venus, with her cool head. The pride of the Scorpio Venus makes her not able to take advice, well. This may be her downfall.Open up, Sisters. Learn that you do not need to excel in all things, in order to be worth something.

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Venus in Scorpio In a Man’s Chart
By amiann | Published: February 9, 2012 |
Thank you, Ashley, for the ear worm: Chris Isaak’s song “Wicked Games”. I will listen to the song a hundred times until I can’t stand it, anymore. This song speaks to Venus in Scorpio. Venus does not like Scorpio. Venus is a delicate planet of refined sensibilities. Smoldering Scorpio may do well in Mars. but it overwhelms Venus. Venus in Scorpio seems to plague it’s natives, male and female. Quite frankly, it makes them feel they are oversexed. This may sound like it should not be a complaint, but it seems to plague this Venus. Back to the song. This man seems like he does not have a strong enough Mars to deal with his sultry Venus. Mars is one’s drive. Mars shows how we will go after what we want. Venus shows what we love.If one’s Venus were in Scorpio and one had a non go -getter Mars, one’s frustrations would increase exponentially. This song feels like a Libra or Cancer Mars. Libra Mars over thinks. Cancer Mars gets frozen in fear and runs for the safety of it’s crab shell. For a Venus in Scorpio, one would do better with a Fire Moon such as Aries or Leo. Those would be go getter moons. The man in the song seems like he has a tender moon such as Cancer or Pisces; altogether an inauspicious trio.

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posted February 29, 2012 08:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 29, 2012 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixFire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I totally agree, it is a waste of my time and energy getting emotionally involved with someone who isnt what Im looking for. I dislike mind games, and like cutting to the chase. I dont see the point in investing in something that isnt bringing joy and growth. Much as I love deeply, if the feeling and emotional investment isnf being returned, I have no problem cutting loose. Sag Sun conj Asc/neptune, Pisces Moon, scorp venus, Mars in Sag.

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No, I don't just know from the get-go. That kind of visceral gut reaction would prob be Scorpio Moon.

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posted February 29, 2012 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PhoenixFire:
I totally agree, it is a waste of my time and energy getting emotionally involved with someone who isnt what Im looking for. I dislike mind games, and like cutting to the chase. I dont see the point in investing in something that isnt bringing joy and growth. Much as I love deeply, if the feeling and emotional investment isnf being returned, I have no problem cutting loose. Sag Sun conj Asc/neptune, Pisces Moon, scorp venus, Mars in Sag.

Same here!
If it's lukewarm or unrequited, forget it.

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posted February 29, 2012 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixFire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Right, like if the person isn't on par then why drag it out longer? Chasing after a person who isn't truly into me, is not my style at all. Life is too beautiful and colorful to waste, going around in circles.

I do tend to feel vibes/connections with people right away, and usually my initial hunches manifest down the road. I don't know if that would be Venus in Scorpio, or my Pisces Moon & Neptune conj Asc/Sun

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""Venus in Scorpio seems as if it tries too hard to be sexy. As such, she may scare men off.""


My moon/sun/venus are all in Scorpio and it is a difficult placement. I come off sexual without even trying, my cappy friend loves to joke about sex but for some reason everyone agrees that I am the horn dog. Sex always complicates a relationship for me things get intense quickly. I have to love someone before giving myself (if its that type of relationship)If its just a casual relationship then I go in knowing that, and wont ever fall in love. Sex does not mean love to me. I can appreciate it just for the pleasure.My ex was uncomfortable hanging out with me as friends because he was convinced that I was trying to seduce him! Wow, I just like dressing up sometimes. I am usually the aggressive one, I do not like someone dominating me all the time.

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