posted February 22, 2012 05:23 AM            

Several parts of the chart are contenders for why he makes you weak in the knees . Oh, the pain of it. *Sigh* Moon/Pluto would be the first planetary aspect. Pluto is your primal self. Picture a majestic tiger, stalking his prey. That is Pluto.Pluto deals in primal desires. If you want intellect, look to Mercury.Our man Pluto is a savage beast. The moon is one’s deepest heart.It is the love of the mother for her nursing baby. It is the lover who will wash your hair.That kind of affection is rare and must be a Moon aspect, in my opinion. Hence, Moon/Pluto is passion plus exquisite tenderness. Asteroid wise, Nessus/Deja makes for obsession. Nessus/Deja makes you tear your hair out and howl at the moon. Nessus is abuse that takes no thought for the other. It is rape. Dejanira is the victim who lies down and lets herself be raped. These are powerful archetypes. We have them, every single one of us. After this, I would check the Child asteroid, as it represents our inner child . Falling in love is child to child. Isn’t that beautiful? It is true. You fall in love,his inner child to yours. Other “weak in the knees” Asteroids are Eros(erotic love), Sappho( erotic love with the arts), Apollo( pure beauty, inner and outer), Lilith( raw sexuality), Chiron( the wound which never heals), Ceres( the unconditional love of the mother), Juno( the faithful love of a devoted wife) and many others.

Lets not leave out the Seduction Asteroids. When you have a man who knows how to wield his Cupido( the look of love but no heart behind it), Eros(erotic love), Sappho( erotic love using the arts) and Casanova( speaks for itself), you know you have little hope of resistance. Poor you.

How could I have forgotten Uranus? Uranus is the planet of fast relationships. If you have strong Uranus and no compensating tender factors such as moon trine moon, Ceres and Valentine, I think you may land before you get off the runway. Venus conjunct Mars is another attraction aspect that would fall in the category of Uranus. It will give intense attraction, but not staying power.

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posted February 22, 2012 05:24 AM            

So, I changed course. However, for all you intrepid souls, I am teaching this class in the Brown Owl School

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posted February 22, 2012 08:43 AM            

though I would add Black Moon Lilith to the brew. It`s a bit like a female Pluto. Or actually I think it is "the dark side of the Moon" and coming across as a mixture of Moon and Pluto.

posted February 22, 2012 09:48 AM            

Male Pluto and female Venus would be about as close to perfect as you could get
The male does better as the Pluto, imo
That is the natural order of things. He needs her as much as she needs him, but it is expressed differently. He was wants to possess her. She wants to give herself to him. That may be the most perfect aspect out there, for lovers.

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posted February 22, 2012 09:49 AM            

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posted February 22, 2012 09:58 AM            

My Dejanira (Virgo 27’49) square his Valentine (Sag 27’53) (<1degree)
My Dejanira (Virgo 27’49) sextile his Pholus (Pisces 27’35) (<1 degree)
My Dejanira (Virgo 27’49) sextile his Ceres (Cancer 27’2) (<1 degree)
My Dejanira (Virgo 27’49) sextile his Union (Scorpio 26’3) (<2degree)
My Lust (Scorpio 17’10) conjunct his Dejanira (Scorpio 16’15) (<1 degree)
My Mercury (Cancer 17’14) Trine his Dejanira (Scorpio 16’15) (1 degree)
My Chiron (Taurus 17’59) sextile his Dejanira (Scorpio 16’15) (<2 degree)

My Apollo (Virgo 27’53) square his Valentine (Sag 27’53) (Exact)
My Apollo (Virgo 27’53) opposite his Pholus (Pisces 27’35) (<1 degree)
My Apollo (Virgo 27’53) sextile his Ceres (Cancer 27’2) (<1 degree)
My Venus (Gemini 23’58) square his Apollo (Pisces 24’57) (1 degree)

My Eros (Virgo 12’37) sextile his Aphrodite (Scorpio 12’36) (Exact)
My Sun (Leo 6’8) trine his Eros (Sag 6’45) (<1 degree)
My Eros (Virgo 12’37) sextile his Child (Scorpio 12’2) (<1 degree)
My Eros conjunt his eros/psyche midpoint (<1 degree)
My Karma (Libra 7’58) sextile his Eros (Sag 6’45) (<2 degree)

My Ixion (Scorpio 12’36) conjunct his Aphrodite (Scorpio 12’36) (Exact)
My Ascendant (Libra 3’56) conjunct his Jupiter (Libra 3’54) (exact)
My Sun (Leo 6’8) opposite his Amor (Aquarius 6’53) (<1 degree)
My Venusia (Taurus 15’43) conjunct his Chiron (Taurus 15’21) (<1 degree)
My Sappho (Gemini 25’24) conjunct his Lilith (Libra 25’14) (<1 degree)

My Ixion (Scorpio 12’36) conjunct his Child (Scorpio 12’2) (<1 degree)
My Amor (Cap 8’25) sextile his Child (Scorpio 9’2) (<1 degree)

Damn...lol...

posted February 22, 2012 10:21 AM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
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posted February 22, 2012 11:24 AM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Osteoporosis and arthritis? Calcium supplements and acetaminophen work just joking

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posted February 22, 2012 11:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
All of the people I was close to emotionally once and felt like my true self was reflected... we had moon pluto contacts. Not sure about the other asteroids though.

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posted February 22, 2012 11:48 AM            

do you mean: female Venus or female Moon?

Anyway, I have been thinking about some "seduction" asteroids.

I think - being a bit sexistic here- that probably the seduction asteroids of the opposite gender may indicate what we are seeking or seeing in the other.

What I mean is that ADONIS in a female chart may be more indicative of her male ideal (in a seductive sense), than indicating how she seduces someone. But maybe it can be both.

Anyway, I have quite a piling up there:
APOLLO and ADONIS are conjunct on 26 and 27 Libra in 10th house. (and UNION on 29 Libra)
SAPPHO is on 22 Libra conjunct DNA on 20 Libra (and Kassandra. lol).
And APHRODITE is on 13 LIbra widely conjunct Pluto on 9 Libra.

Let me do a little superficial comparision of my "male asteroids".

So there are:
APOLLO and ADONIS in 26 and 27 Libra in 10th house
CUPIDO on 19 Leo in 8th house
EROS on 21 Cancer in 8th house (conj. DESTINN, Saturn, Vertex and Sun/Moon-mp).
AMOR on 2 Sagittarius in 12th house (conj. Mars)
CASANOVA on 12 Scorpio in 11th house

° Apollo and Adonis in Libra:
It shows that I am susceptible for "male beauty" I think. It is a bit embarassing to admit and I feel kinda shallow, but I think I have a thing for handsome men. I like charm and grace and some good manners.
Also, especially with Sappho being there as well, indicates my affinity for artists (and it is certainly no coincidence, that one of the actors that caught my attention has his Moon in EXACT conjunction to my Adonis and also conjunct my Apollo and Union, in his 10th house as well).

Apollo is to me about pure admiration and finding someone / something beautiful, but not necessarily about a deep emotionally felt attraction. It`s like looking at a painting that you find beautiful, and in looking at it, you can find immense joy. Do you know what I mean?

Adonis on the other hand is a bit more, well, spicy.
The epitome of male beauty and even more so seductive temptation, even though quite unaware of it (he tempted both, Aphrodite and Persephone to fall in love with him; he chose Aphrodite though and had a very passionate love affair with her, until Mars had him killed in a fit of jealousy).

Adonis-Aphrodite: well Adonis is about magnetism, feeling like you are under a spell; sultry, misty-eyes, sensual, pleasurable.
It is not that glowing hot passionate fiery spark that Venus-Mars or Aphrodite-Mars or even Eros-Aphrodite has, but irresistible in its sensuality.

So for my chart it shows that I admire / adore/ find beautiful and even more are entranced / bewitched by a male with these Venusian attributes.

(when I was very young, elementary school young and a few years after that, whomever I was having a crush on, turned out to be a LIbra. EVERYTIME. Later then it were ARies, and after that Capricorn, and now it seems I am in my SAg-phase. lol But usually there is a mix of all of these. I once fell for a SCorpio with Sun, Venus and Mars in SCorpio and MOon in Cancer. the spell did not last long luckily. lol Totally against my type. And after that, I was strongly drawnt to an Aries with Libra-Moon. Moth to the flame. He was a real artistic guy, played the piano perfectly, and was probably gay. lol).

I would always look at these three together:
Cupido - Amor - Eros (Eros is the Greek God, and has been split into two in Roman mythology: Cupido and Amor).

Like you stated Cupido is indicative of a shallow kind of "love". Not relaly love at all, but attraction, usually over the sight. What gets our eyes, our attention?
The attraction can be quite hot though, in a playful flirtative way. Playing with fire (and probably getting burned).

So Cupido in Leo
These Leo- Sun-creatures easily get my attention. I like looking at them. I find them attractive, but I ahve never met a Leo I had developed deeper feelings for.
Though I once had the hots for a Leo (okay, I remember, two Leos, they even looked alike and had similiar attitudes). Very attractive, very tempting, in a purely physical way, though without real emotional investment.
Cupido is the latin word for: desire, want.
And that is probably exactly what it is about, but not desire for touching the soul, simply an itch you want to scratch.

So these masculine leo men do get my attention and spark my interest, but what or whom do I really feel passionate about, to the depth of my soul?
That is where Eros comes into play. My true Eros, the true passionmate, seems to be a mix of lunar-saturnian-plutonian energies (Cancer conjunct Saturn, 8th house), and as a matter of fact this is where and how I can find my soulmate (Sun-Moon-mp) or at least someone who complements me well.

Amor is the harsh opposite to Cupido, where Cupido lacks emotional involvement and soulconnection, Amor is drenched in it. So much that this overflowing feeling of compassion and soulconnection may sometimes even dampen the physical and erotic aspect a bit. I guess it depends on the individual chart though.

Casanova in Scorpio in 11th.
I guess I need to watch out for these who can easily glamour me with their passionate humanitarian involvement and fighting for global and idealistic goals. They may totally dazzle me and deprave me of a certain ability to see through them. A guy can be a knight for a good cause, and yet be a jerk in personal relationships.

Just one word on Nessus and Dejanira.
Nessus is in Gemini (in 7th house). Deja is in Aries in 3rd house.

It seems I definitely need to look out for the risk of abuse and victimizing on a mental level.

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True BML has the number h13.

What astro.com gives as Lilith is mean BML. You can try out both. For me the true BML is much more fitting, which makes sense, as mean BML gives simply an average position instead of the true one.
The true BML will appear as osc. (for : oscillating) in the chart.

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posted February 22, 2012 12:56 PM            

Perfect definition--Ceri!!!

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posted February 22, 2012 12:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Apollo is to me about pure admiration and finding someone / something beautiful, but not necessarily about a deep emotionally felt attraction. It`s like looking at a painting that you find beautiful, and in looking at it, you can find immense joy. Do you know what I mean?

Perfect definition--Ceri!!!

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Thank you.

posted February 22, 2012 01:06 PM            

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posted February 22, 2012 03:28 PM            

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Lol... What I found out...

My Dejanira (Virgo 27’49) square his Valentine (Sag 27’53) (<1degree)
My Dejanira (Virgo 27’49) sextile his Pholus (Pisces 27’35) (<1 degree)
My Dejanira (Virgo 27’49) sextile his Ceres (Cancer 27’2) (<1 degree)
My Dejanira (Virgo 27’49) sextile his Union (Scorpio 26’3) (<2degree)
My Lust (Scorpio 17’10) conjunct his Dejanira (Scorpio 16’15) (<1 degree)
My Mercury (Cancer 17’14) Trine his Dejanira (Scorpio 16’15) (1 degree)
My Chiron (Taurus 17’59) sextile his Dejanira (Scorpio 16’15) (<2 degree)

My Apollo (Virgo 27’53) square his Valentine (Sag 27’53) (Exact)
My Apollo (Virgo 27’53) opposite his Pholus (Pisces 27’35) (<1 degree)
My Apollo (Virgo 27’53) sextile his Ceres (Cancer 27’2) (<1 degree)
My Venus (Gemini 23’58) square his Apollo (Pisces 24’57) (1 degree)

My Eros (Virgo 12’37) sextile his Aphrodite (Scorpio 12’36) (Exact)
My Sun (Leo 6’8) trine his Eros (Sag 6’45) (<1 degree)
My Eros (Virgo 12’37) sextile his Child (Scorpio 12’2) (<1 degree)
My Eros conjunt his eros/psyche midpoint (<1 degree)
My Karma (Libra 7’58) sextile his Eros (Sag 6’45) (<2 degree)

My Ixion (Scorpio 12’36) conjunct his Aphrodite (Scorpio 12’36) (Exact)
My Ascendant (Libra 3’56) conjunct his Jupiter (Libra 3’54) (exact)
My Sun (Leo 6’8) opposite his Amor (Aquarius 6’53) (<1 degree)
My Venusia (Taurus 15’43) conjunct his Chiron (Taurus 15’21) (<1 degree)
My Sappho (Gemini 25’24) conjunct his Lilith (Libra 25’14) (<1 degree)

My Ixion (Scorpio 12’36) conjunct his Child (Scorpio 12’2) (<1 degree)
My Amor (Cap 8’25) sextile his Child (Scorpio 9’2) (<1 degree)

Damn...lol...

Conclusion: Yes, he does makes me very weak in the knees..

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posted February 22, 2012 03:29 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Hmm. Haven't checked most of those asteroids in synastry.

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Yep, you can get in to a rut with Asteroids and just have your pet favorites. I try to go out of my rut, periodically. There are so many amazing one's out there.

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posted February 22, 2012 03:30 PM            

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posted February 22, 2012 06:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Male Pluto and female Venus would be about as close to perfect as you could get
The male does better as the Pluto, imo
That is the natural order of things. He needs her as much as she needs him, but it is expressed differently. He was wants to possess her. She wants to give herself to him. That may be the most perfect aspect out there, for lovers.

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posted February 22, 2012 06:51 PM            

Ceri
Did not know this about Amor! Fascinating Thank you.

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