posted February 22, 2012 04:14 PM            

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posted February 22, 2012 04:19 PM            

It all depends on the overall picture.

And yes I agree with you, Neptune can really "glamour" you, and you can never be sure if it really is a spiritual truth you have access to or if you are deluding yourself.

posted February 22, 2012 04:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
On the other hand, Neptune also can be about a deep true spiritual soulconnection.

It all depends on the overall picture.

And yes I agree with you, Neptune can really "glamour" you, and you can never be sure if it really is a spiritual truth you have access to or if you are deluding yourself.

Though I think if these Neptunian aspects are woven into a chart by harmonious aspects like trine and sextile, it is different than it would be squares and oppositions - these to me are just as strong warning signs as a Pluto square.

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Totally, Ceri.

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posted February 22, 2012 04:42 PM            

In my relationship:

His Asc Capricorn 11
His Neptune Capricorn 7

posted February 22, 2012 04:51 PM            

Over a year ago I was so into this guy that my friend kept telling me was lying to me and leading me on. I defended him all the time and then one day it hit me that I was the only one wanting something out of whatever the hell we were. He didn't, but enjoyed the admiration. I wouldn't call this abuse, but it felt like hell and made me weary of everything in a perfect, pretty package. We didn't have the kind of synastry to write about. Venus square Uranus and Neptune were our most exact aspects and coloured the whole thing. Should have known.

posted February 22, 2012 05:01 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
If he does, then I will eventually "Pluto" him - as someone found out.

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posted February 22, 2012 06:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Delilah:
I usually get the feeling that I'm being lied to about something. When I find out I give the person time to come clean because it's usually about something so small that it's not a deal breaker in the beginning. Other times I'm not so lucky.

Over a year ago I was so into this guy that my friend kept telling me was lying to me and leading me on. I defended him all the time and then one day it hit me that I was the only one wanting something out of whatever the hell we were. He didn't, but enjoyed the admiration. I wouldn't call this abuse, but it felt like hell and made me weary of everything in a perfect, pretty package. We didn't have the kind of synastry to write about. Venus square Uranus and Neptune were our most exact aspects and coloured the whole thing. Should have known.

Edit: I meant with the square. Haven't been fortunate enough to find someone who I have easy aspects with.

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Yep, it does not have to be pure abuse. Neptune fogs!

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posted February 22, 2012 06:24 PM            

NEPTUNE DEFINITION KEYWORDS;

Artistic, emotional, sensitive, mediumistic, wandering, ¬sentimental, subtle, deceptive, subversive, imaginative, rhythmic, spirituality, unstable, sacrifice, head in the clouds.

Rules Drugs of all types , alcohol, tobacco, heroin, ether & anaesthetic, Gas lighting. Anything elusive, water has to be put in pipes.

Wherever your Neptune is, "is where you carry your cross and where you will be called upon to make a sacrifice!" True sacrifices are never usually recognised, or else they could turn into martyrdom!

Ascendant sun and mc in pisces or neptune in the 1st house
rules pituitary gland, feet, and sleeping rhythms. bad aspects may cause sleep disorders, such as insomnia.

Neptune in lst House – angular house
Should try to avoid alcohol and drugs. Often have an air of mystery about you. Indicates a sensitive intuitive awareness of yourself and your environment. Highly impressionable. Certainly artistic and a great appreciation of music. Dreamy innocent look drift off when talking! Dissatisfied with appearance in some way ie; manner, looks. Sometime appear to live in world of own. Idealist. Physical appearance probably something you don't care for. People may often say to you look at me when I'm talking to you! Can daydream with eyes wide open. Neptunian illnesses movements affected will walk funny at least with one foot. (twine toed as small child or when first walking ) Mysterious allergies on skin or where obvious, and suddenly disappear.

Neptune in 2nd House = succeedent house
Idealistic about money and the use of material resources. Will generally donate generously to charitable, spiritual, and ¬humanitarian causes. Intuitive, air of mystery, about how to earn money. But needs to develop practicality.

Could earn money in artistic way, such as acting (Pisces, being the most common sun sign) also born comedians. Always looking for ideal job doesn't necessarily mean you'll find it and won't always mean a steady paycheck ! Need and want a job where you can bring inspiration to people. Idealist in looking for work with fluctuating salary quite possible. Could earn money through Chiropody (Pisces Feet) Reflexology.
Pharmaceutical trade, tobacco kiosk. Schools of music, dancing, etc.

Neptune in 3rd House – cadent house
How you think ideas (Cadent house). True inspiration and keep this to yourself! Spiritual experiences mental things you won't want to speak about. Very good imagination with possible uses such as writing books, fairy stories, romance stories. Called to make sacrifices for siblings. Possibly never had time to be a child. Dyslexia possible foggy and woolly mindedness head in clouds if badly aspected. Clear in your mind as to what you want to say, but doesn't come out how you mean it to! Procrastinate will put things off worry about it tomorrow attitude. Capacity for visualisation is often well developed. Musical. Telepathic tendencies. Inclined to study occult and mystical subjects. You feel you must share your knowledge impartially and act as a panel for information.

Neptune in 4th House – angular house
Strong unconscious emotional ties with home and family. Confused family relationships and sometimes chaotic domestic environment. Often feel sorry for strangers, animals and offer ¬accommodation. Beachcombers. Sacrifices in the home (parents) Mystery concerning early life. Deception. Over idealise mothers perhaps disillusionment. Possibly put mother on a pedestal missing parent! doubts about roots! Abandoned, adopted, or even left in a plastic bag. Very much eggshell area and therefore sensitive. Neptune the ‘great dissolver’ can literally dissolve connections to family

Neptune in 5th House – succeedent house
Unconscious desire for love and appreciation through romance and creative expression. May have artistic talents. Especially to do with music, children, or the stock markets. Ability to play a role. Love of theatre. Very sympathetic. ¬intuition strong here. This house describes love affairs and children. Romance over idealise. love at first sight. Romance seen through ¬rose tinted glasses! Did you have gas and air or ¬anesthetic during childbirth?
Artistic/creative children, secretive children, depending on aspects. Private enterprise beware the dangling carrot, be very wary of.

Neptune in 6th House. – cadent house
You will have intuitive understanding of the various methods of making work effective and efficient. Good for work to do with hospitals health foods exercise. Close ties with co workers. Fond of pets. Health Feet. Hypochondriac. Very allergic to drugs – (looks to aspects). Psychosomatic illnesses seem very real to them!
After care and service to others. Sympathetic, welfare and caring work would be ideal. Type of work drawn to could be alternative medicine, actors, magician, reflexology, acupuncture, Homeopathy. Nursing. Chiropody. Coun¬selling maybe or voluntary work. Small domestic pets.

Neptune in 7th House – angular house
Often a strong psychic link with marriage partner. You will be easily affected by the moods and feelings of other people. You may be called upon to make sacrifices for business or marital partner. Relationships drawn to. Always looking for the IDEAL partner/mate, could well get what they wish for! Might get a clinging vine, or the opposite a very independent type spouse. Beware of self deception; ie wearing rose tinted glasses.

Neptune in 8th House – succeedent house
Psychic tendencies, often manifested in spiritualism and ¬clairvoyance. Unusual secret circumstances may surround partners money insurance, taxes, and inheritance.
Ideal attitude to partner of how they want to share money, body (including sex), resources (shared money) and values, being the opposite of 2nd house. May never know how much their partners earn! Want a lot of romance in sex life, and to have all the trimmings with good aspects. Easily swept off their feet by knight in shining armour syndrome. Can even wear the rose tinted glasses here, because you will think they were worth it. Bad aspects cause disillusionment, even so would have been worth the price! May marry a wanderer.
May have spiritual psychic abilities, whether recognised or not!

Neptune in 9th House – cadent house
This position of Neptune give a highly impressionable intuitive mind. Much interest in mystical cults, mediation and oriental religions. Care must be taken to distinguish real spiritual teachers from the false. Will want to go long distance travelling to see other cultures and religions, perhaps on spiritual mission. Come home and want to spread the good word. Tell everyone of their adventures. Mysteries attached to In Laws (may be robbed of good relations with them, for whatever reason).

Neptune in l0th House – angular house
Intuitive factors will play an important part in your career. Good position for Astrologers, Clairvoyants, and ¬psychiatrists. Spiritual leaders. One of your parents may be unusual. Good for acting. Visible and helpful! (Angular house). Public image obvious in career. Put on an act or hide behind a uniform to play a part. Actors, amateur dramatics. Good at painting pictures, ¬embellishing things that would enhance people's lives. Artistic.

Neptune in llth House – succeedent house
Unusual, idealistic friendships and group associations. ¬Generosity and spiritual guidance received from friends. ¬Sensitive to the needs of others. May join spiritual groups.
View friends in idealistic manner. Your idea of ¬sympathetic friend sympathetic ear! Also your ear would be bent from your friends and this would be an area of comfort for you.
Sacrificial things done for friends that others wouldn't.
Can even wear the rose tinted glasses here, because you will think they were worth it. Bad aspects cause disillusionment, even so would have been worth the price (perhaps moved away or ¬emigrated, but even the memory would be cherished). Encourage spiritual groups of like minds. Non competitive team work. Inspire others and friends nurturing.

posted February 22, 2012 06:33 PM            

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Yep, it does not have to be pure abuse. Neptune fogs!

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posted February 22, 2012 06:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Delilah:
Yeah, on second thought it's more like heart abuse. Cheesy, but it causes so much pain.

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posted February 22, 2012 06:55 PM            

I don't know still how I feel about him. Sometimes I think he's a nice guy and at other times kind of a jerk. I can't tell, and normally I am really good at reading people. I want to believe he's interested in me as a person instead of me as a sex object . . . I don't know atm.

I read somewhere that Neptune-sun aspects can cause a sexual relationship to dissolve quickly. The two involved "sacrifice" their relationship for some kind of greater good...atm that seems what is going to happen with us, as there is a bit of drama and pressure from family and friends in our interest in each other.

posted February 22, 2012 07:17 PM            

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My "crush" or current love interest has Neptune almost exactly conjuncting my sun, squaring my moon (by 4 degrees). We actually have DW sun-neptune contacts, although my Neptune trines his sun/venus conjunction, so it is a soft aspect.

I don't know still how I feel about him. Sometimes I think he's a nice guy and at other times kind of a jerk. I can't tell, and normally I am really good at reading people. I want to believe he's interested in me as a person instead of me as a sex object . . . I don't know atm.

I read somewhere that Neptune-sun aspects can cause a sexual relationship to dissolve quickly. The two involved "sacrifice" their relationship for some kind of greater good...atm that seems what is going to happen with us, as there is a bit of drama and pressure from family and friends in our interest in each other.

I know this is a bit off topic than what you are trying to discuss, but I thought I'd bring it up regardless because I *do* have a couple of the aspects you were talking about.

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I don't mind off topic. I am an earth void

Yes, you are describing classic Neptune with the "fog"

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posted February 23, 2012 02:37 AM            

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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
The Neptunian person would like to just stare at the other from afar for ever and ever... They don't seem to want things to become too *real*. They are afraid of bursting the dream bubble. (Actually - 'afraid' is putting it mildly... More like paranoid! Although with the easy aspects it's not so bad)

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Exactly. They indulge and wallow in the fantasy. But may involuntarily hurt the other person by not allowing the dreamy romantic magical blissful connection to become "real".

posted February 23, 2012 04:16 AM            

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Let me explain, if there are many signs of an abusive relationship( which I will go into in another article), Neptune can make it so that you do not SEE the abuse. Neptune fogs what it touches.

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aaaarrrrrrggghhhhhh.

I have my Neptune conjunct my husband's Ascendent exactly.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/212324.html

Honestly, I would have seen him for what he was if it werent for Neptune. It took 2 years for the fog to clear.

Girls

BEWARE SUCH NEPTUNE CONTACTS IN SYNASTRY -

If so please take second opinions from friends before making it serious . They will see what you cannot see.

Better yet.

posted February 23, 2012 06:20 AM            

I was hanging out with a couple who have major neptune squares. His neptune square her sun/mercury 2*, her neptune conjunt NN is square his mars conjunct NN 1*. The whole relationship seems like a business deal to those observing. A lot of lies/secrets from his side (not sure about hers). They have only been together for 2 years. Both have bad self esteem issues and the relationship just seems rather dark and dead except for the sex from my perspective.

Kinda makes me appreciate saturn dealing with me this lifetime. I will take burdensome reality in synastry over disillusion and betrayal any day. Haven't experienced neptune squares and i hopefully i will not have to.

Oh but I have however experienced an exact opposition of draco neptune to my draco venus in synastry. My draco neptune exactly conjunct his draco ASC. All our personal planets except for the taurus moon were all conjunct in pisces in the composite. Our relationship never "happened" but i do have a feeling he will be back for me.

posted February 23, 2012 09:05 AM            

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aaaarrrrrrggghhhhhh.

I have my Neptune conjunct my husband's Ascendent exactly.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/212324.html

Honestly, I would have seen him for what he was if it werent for Neptune. It took 2 years for the fog to clear.

Girls

BEWARE SUCH NEPTUNE CONTACTS IN SYNASTRY -

If so please take second opinions from friends before making it serious . They will see what you cannot see.

Better yet.

RUN

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There is a man I dated. His Neptune is conjunct my ASC. He idolizes me. I know it is not real. I am the one he thinks "got away". However, I know that if he were to know me, that veil would fall because it is not real. Under it is a real person who is NOT the ideal which the Neptune deceives the person into thinking. That was the purpose of my article. Thanks venusinindia

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posted February 23, 2012 10:10 AM            

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Originally posted by fairaqua:
What would neptune square asc cause when there is a neptune trine moon?

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I don't understand the question, SWeetie. Specify natal, synastry, whose planet is whose etc

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