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Topic: Does He "Neptune" You?
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fairaqua
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posted February 23, 2012 10:19 AM
  
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Their neptune trines my moon and squares my ACIP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted February 23, 2012 11:19 AM
Heck, she "Neptunes" my Sun. Its a Square too, but its wide at 8 degrees. And so what?IP: Logged |
athenegoddess
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posted February 23, 2012 11:22 AM
I like Neptune. Maybe because I'm Neptunian. IP: Logged |
mercuranian
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posted February 23, 2012 12:19 PM
hard neptune aspects ANYWHERE scare the bejeebies outta me! i try to avoid them at all costs!IP: Logged |
Yin
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posted February 23, 2012 12:32 PM
Lemme get this straight - a conjunction is a hard aspect, right? I personally cannot live without Neptune aspects. IP: Logged |
athenegoddess
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posted February 23, 2012 12:46 PM
Squares to anything are horrible. Except Venus and Mars.Conjunctions and Oppositions are cool. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted February 23, 2012 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by Yin:
Lemme get this straight - a conjunction is a hard aspect, right? I personally cannot live without Neptune aspects.
I've seen it described as both a hard and a soft aspect - like my Moon conjunct Venus would be soft, but if I had Moon conjunct Mars, that would be hard. I think I'm remembering that correctly. I can see how it would be a hard aspect. IP: Logged |
athenegoddess
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posted February 23, 2012 12:53 PM
Hard aspects are conjunction, square, and opposition.IP: Logged |
Yin
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posted February 23, 2012 01:08 PM
Yeah, an entire generation's Neptune conjuncts my Sun. Personally, I love it, since I too have in my natal.IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted February 23, 2012 01:22 PM
Even though conjunction is technically a dynamic aspect, I see it different from the other aspects. It actually is more of a "merging point" than strictly an aspect. Instead of just influencing each other, two planets in conjunction "melt" and combine to something new.In analysis I always start with the conjunctions (and to some degree oppositions) and check how these "hot spots" are integrated in the overall chart (the aspects to other planets). Personally I love Neptune conjuncts as well. But most people I meet have Neptune in Sag like me, and I do not have planets in Virgo or Gemini, so no harsh squares and oppositions.
I have Jupiter in Pisces though, which sometimes squares Neptune, but hey, it is in Pisces.  IP: Logged |
Yin
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posted February 23, 2012 01:24 PM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Even though conjunction is technically a dynamic aspect, I see it different from the other aspects. It actually is more of a "merging point" than strictly an aspect. Instead of just influencing each other, two planets in conjunction "melt" and combine to something new.
Hey, Saggie! I like your take on it!
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Ceridwen
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posted February 23, 2012 01:26 PM
I would not like Neptune squaring ASC though, not a little bit (esp. since it would also square DESC).Also I found in some of the most tragic relationships that there was Neptune either conjunct the SN or square the nodal axis within tight orbs.
Conjunction to the NN seems to be workable under certain circumstances. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted February 23, 2012 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I would not like Neptune squaring ASC though, not a little bit (esp. since it would also square DESC).Also I found in some of the most tragic relationships that there was Neptune either conjunct the SN or square the nodal axis within tight orbs.
Conjunction to the NN seems to be workable under certain circumstances.
Hmm interesting Ceri
Are you talking like severe abuse and/or murder
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pandacake
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posted February 23, 2012 01:44 PM
According to the Midpoint method me and him have Moon conjunct Neptune in third house. I don't think I'm clouded by him ... but my family did prefer me to not be with him. This is mostly because they don't believe love can last forever thus they believe that marriage should be, in the first place, a tool to help the family climb higher the social ladder. Only time can tell whether they or me are right ... Still love him after all these years though.  IP: Logged |
Yin
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posted February 23, 2012 01:58 PM
I know I'm being obnoxious but here goes nothing:Ceridwen and Ami Anne, I'll be honored if you took a gander at this beauty: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/002830.html IP: Logged |
inthemisosoup
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posted February 23, 2012 02:07 PM
I just checked me & my ex's synastry, thinking there would be a lot of Neptune because there was deceit, illusion, and denial as central themes of the relationship. That and obsession, jealousy, manipulation, anger, revenge, etc. but I'm going to call out Pluto on that one. It took me *so long* to leave this guy even though I knew he wasn't good for me, i kept making excuses for him. Surprisingly, however, there aren't too many Neptune aspects. His Neptune squares my moon and conjuncts my Uranus (my chart ruler), but at wide orbs.My Neptune sextiles his Pluto but I have that natally so I don't think that's the culprit. Oh well, I wanted to contribute a real-life example but I guess we will have to wait for someone else. And for the record, i don't think Neptune is all that bad, either. I have a significant Neptunian influence from my Pisces stellium; two planets of which also aspect Neptune. I am lucky that natally all of these are soft aspects. I am already someone who is to an extent easily influenced by others, avoidant, and escapist. Hard aspects to my Neptune or someone else's Neptune hard aspecting my personal planets probably won't end well for me. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted February 23, 2012 02:09 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Hmm interesting Ceri
Are you talking like severe abuse and/or murder
Unfortunately in some occurences, yes.
Though I think the harsh Neptune aspects contributed more to the "blindness", and the volatile / violent aspects could practically strike out of the blue (because of the NEptunian fog). It did not always end with the death of one person though, these are extreme cases.
I had been stumbling coincidentally about this, while researching aspects to the nodal axis (I was more looking for personal aspects though), and I put there marriages and relationships that were happy as well as long lasting, and was surprised to see that the long lasting ones did not have these Neptunian-opposition and square to the NN.
But among those that had the aspects were: ° a gay couple
stayed together for 12 years; mostly long distance relationship
NN conjunct Moon
SN conjunct Neptune
NN square NN exact (this was the most positived of the examples) ° Auguste Rodin - Camille Claudel
Compulsive passionate affair, that detoriated quickly. Later on Claudel accused Rodin of having stolen her creative ideas; in the end she ended up in an asylum. She also died there. her NN square his Neptune ° Bertrand Cantat - Marie Trintigant
he beat her to death in a rage her NN squrae his Neptune exact
her NN square his MC
° ERic Satie - Suzanne Valadon
a very short (week-long) affair; she then disappeared from his life completely and suddenly; he never got involved with someone else.
his NN conjunct her Mars
his SN conjunct her Neptune
° Emperor fRanz Joseph of Austria and Sisi
a royal marriage that began as love (at least from his side), but the love could not be sustained, yet they remained married (of course, as royal couples of that time did not divorce). But each lived their own lives.
his SN conjunct her Uranus
his NN square her MC
her NN square his Venus
her NN square his Neptune exact Another thing that I noticed were strong, even harsh aspects of Saturn to the Nodes, But NOT in the short term relationships.
The three shortest had the Neptune-Node aspect though.
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Ceridwen
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posted February 23, 2012 02:12 PM
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Originally posted by Yin:
Hey, Saggie! I like your take on it!
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ariesdragon
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posted February 23, 2012 03:01 PM
Ceri what about Neptune square Jupiter?
What do you think of it in synastry?IP: Logged |
ariesdragon
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posted February 23, 2012 03:03 PM
Her Neptune square my Jupiter IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted February 23, 2012 03:09 PM
Hmm Ceri
So very interesting. Do you want to write an easy to understand article on it and I will put it on my website? You can do it after you research it, if you want.
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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted February 23, 2012 03:22 PM
This thread has me really confused. She has all sorts of Neptune aspects with my Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus and Jupiter. I have Neptune aspects with her Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, NN and ASC. We even have Neptune to Neptune aspects. How does any of these indicate any abuse? Am I supposed to kill my wife? Or is she supposed to kill me? Is that the story plot? IP: Logged |
inthemisosoup
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posted February 23, 2012 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
This thread has me really confused. She has all sorts of Neptune aspects with my Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus and Jupiter. I have Neptune aspects with her Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, NN and ASC. We even have Neptune to Neptune aspects. How does any of these indicate any abuse? Am I supposed to kill my wife? Is that the story plot?
There are positive attributes to Neptune--transcendence, merging, a spiritual freedom and relationship which can be lovely but is hard to achieve. From what I've read here, you and you wife are very happy together. You are both probably more evolved than many people in terms of Neptunian ideals and influences. The pendulum can swing both ways; there are two sides at least to the way Neptune's influence can manifest. IP: Logged |
ariesdragon
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posted February 23, 2012 03:44 PM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
This thread has me really confused. She has all sorts of Neptune aspects with my Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus and Jupiter. I have Neptune aspects with her Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, NN and ASC. We even have Neptune to Neptune aspects. How does any of these indicate any abuse? Am I supposed to kill my wife? Or is she supposed to kill me? Is that the story plot?
Lmfao that's hilarious! Hahahaha IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted February 23, 2012 03:49 PM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
This thread has me really confused. She has all sorts of Neptune aspects with my Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus and Jupiter. I have Neptune aspects with her Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, NN and ASC. We even have Neptune to Neptune aspects. How does any of these indicate any abuse? Am I supposed to kill my wife? Or is she supposed to kill me? Is that the story plot?
Oh gosh, NO! Of course not! In harsh aspects (square and opposition) to personal planets and the angles they can cloud your sight though, so that you would not notice any first signs of abusive behaviour, if it should happen. But Neptune aspects on their own will not indicate abuse (other than evasive confusing sometimes even deluding behaviour).
Neptune will not run amok, swinging the axe.
But it might turn off the ability for reasonable thinking, so that other possible "axe-swinging" aspects can come to the forefront more easily. Do you know what I mean? IP: Logged |
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