posted February 23, 2012 07:36 AM              

Two planets that are simultaneously conjunct AND parallel (cause only these will really appear as "one" or "merged" from the perspective of a viewer on earth).

The orbs for the synastric conjunctions would be 3° and the parallel 1°.

In a second step I am also interested in other aspects like trine or sextile or square of planets who are simultaneously parallel or contraparallel.

posted February 23, 2012 09:43 AM            

Within the allowable orb just ONE;

- Sun/Asc. conjunction (1'30) and Parallel.

Well, I can only say; sooo true... his asc. Leo on my Leo-Sun .. naturally we did fit so well! Man, I still miss that part of us.. I have to think of other bad aspects to NOT miss him right now! OR.. maybe too much pride towards *me*? Hm could be..

Not within the allowable orb;

- Saturn/Venus conjunction (at 3'30) and Parallel (within 1*)
- Moon/MC conjunction (at 3'50) and Parallel (within 1*)

posted February 23, 2012 01:42 PM              

I think these occultations may still be felt, even if one of the aspects is a tad out of orb. But when within this pretty tight orb, they should be very obvious.

The Sun/ASC-one in your case sounds really strong. And in Leo. Makes me think like you generated a lot of warmth when being together.

I definitely saw a lot of these"true conjunctions" with Saturn as well, so the SAturn/Venus-one makes sense to me.

Probably the other "true aspects" will be informative too, but I just thought that a conjunction and parallel might be the most apparent one.

My parents for example have two of these:
my Mum`s Venus is parallel and conunct my Dad`s ASC (both under one degree).
my Mum`s Saturn is parallel and conjunct my Dad`s Mars (also under 1 degree).

posted February 23, 2012 03:35 PM              

what is important with parallels is when two planets don't have ANY aspect but do in parallels. It's like adding another aspect to your grid of aspects.

so if a planet is in square aspect in natal and in parallel the effects of the square are helped and the energy 'not as tense' or problematic. I use 1'30" for parallels

for example, I'm 1' Aquarius rising 7th house Angular chart ruler, square to luminaries therefore conj sun/moon midpoint.So you may expect me to be quite rebellious, independent or erratic. But i have not of these as saturn/uranus are contra parallel which acts like an opposition. Now I've found anything linked to saturn will dampen, delay and limit and give a dose of reality...

basic astrology forum, parallels in declination http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000675.html

posted February 23, 2012 03:44 PM              

w"hat is important with parallels is when two planets don't have ANY aspect but do in parallels. It's like adding another aspect to your grid of aspects."
I agree.

But that was not what I was intending to "research" here.

posted February 23, 2012 04:23 PM            

Is this right?

My Sun 23'11 N
My Saturn 22'18 S
My Uranus 23'38 S
My Neptune 22'9 S
My Osiris 22'43 N
My Isis 23'28 N
My IC 22'9 S

His Asc 22'56 S
His Sun 23'21 S
His Venus 22'58 S
His Saturn 22'10 S
His Uranus 23'34 S
His Neptune 22'17 S

posted February 23, 2012 05:43 PM            

More specifically it's 13 Capricorn.

My IC Capricorn 13
My Moon/Neptune Capricorn 8
My Draco Moon/Neptune Capricorn 22
My Draco Saturn/Uranus Capricorn 12
My Helio Mars Capricorn 13
My Amor Capricorn 25

His Asc Capricorn 11
His Neptune Capricorn 7
His Draco ASC Capricorn 13
His Kaali Capricorn 13
His Sumeria Capricorn 8
His Venus Capricorn 24

posted February 24, 2012 01:28 AM              

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Natally his ASC is conjunct my IC in Capricorn..

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I find a tight conjunction between angles to be extremely significant. With t he involvement of the IC this looks like a real soulconnection.

posted February 24, 2012 01:34 AM              

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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
In my longest rel - We only had Mars/Neptune and Pluto/Pluto as true conjunctions. But my first love & I had exactly the same conj. and the relationship was entirely different.

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Well, I wouldn´t count the aspects between Pluto and Pluto, as they are still generational.

As for Mars/Neptune - there is always a certain range of possible manifestation? Did you feel that the Mars/neptune-aspect manifested in both relationships, ev en though in different ways?

Also, of course there is still the whole chart to be take into account, especially the other aspects to Mars/Neptune and also most probably the Mars or Neptune (depending on who was Mars or Neptune) of the guys might have ruled completely different houses and brought a different flavour with it.

Oh and one word on the orbs: I think that a conjunction with 3°30, when within 1°-1°30 for a parallel, will still be valid. I just wanted to make sure people wouldn´t point out 10° conjunctions with 3° parallels.

As a matter of fact I think that IF also in parallel, even conjunctions up to 5° can be somewhat felt.
though the keyphrase here is *somewhat*. I doubt they will be anywhere as strong as within 3°.

posted February 24, 2012 01:37 AM              

do you feel the Moon/Venus-aspect strongly, also taking the house it falls in and thehouses Moon and Venus rule, into account?

posted February 24, 2012 01:37 AM              

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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
I'll check the other aspects though!

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Yes, I definitely think those will be important as well.

posted February 24, 2012 09:07 AM            

4 "true conjunctions" (small orbs);

posted February 24, 2012 10:10 AM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
"when planets are conj in natal chart in tight orb they will always be parallel to."
No, not always (though often it is the case). At least not in synastry. Of course it occurs always with conjunctions with the Sun though.

w"hat is important with parallels is when two planets don't have ANY aspect but do in parallels. It's like adding another aspect to your grid of aspects."
I agree.

But that was not what I was intending to "research" here.

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I was talking about natal rather than synastry aspects. ....

sorry I must have mis read your first post..

posted February 24, 2012 10:29 AM            

1) His Venus-Sun was conj my Moon-Mars (and opp'd our Plutos).

2) His Moon-Jupiter was conj my prog Venus, all of which trined #1.

3) Our Neptunes trined #1 and #2.

It was the most harmonious and equal relationship I've ever had. It was so fun and easy to be together. Of course there was a lot of attraction. We were on the same wavelength.

We were engaged, but I left him when I met my future husband - someone who was challenging - although we didn't date for another two years. The new relationship ended up being a relationship in which there was much growth for me, whereas the easy one there would've been very little growth.

The first relationship, there was no nodal contact. There was nodal contact in the second one.

posted February 24, 2012 10:53 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I find a tight conjunction between angles to be extremely significant. With t he involvement of the IC this looks like a real soulconnection.

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posted February 24, 2012 06:19 PM            

Thats the only thing I see right off the bat, that we have both a parallel and synastry aspect.
Im the Mars in synastry
He is the Mars in parallel.

posted February 24, 2012 10:28 PM            

In my natal I have
Sun conjunct moon 1.89
sun parallel moon 1.05

venus quinx neptune 0.13
venus CP neptune 0.02

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now parallels that I have that I dont have conjuncts with in my chart
moon p pluto 0.17
NN P satrun 0.13
mars cp moon 0.97

posted February 24, 2012 11:01 PM            

A conjunction and a parallel are from two different schools of astrology.

If you're asking for "true conjunctions" and parallels which would imply mathematically exact alignments... why is there a 3 degree orb allowance??

posted February 25, 2012 05:52 AM              

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Originally posted by mir:
My parents (both passed away/great marriage/true love);

4 "true conjunctions" (small orbs);

- ASC/ASC
- ASC/NEPTUNE (DW!)
- NEPTUNE/NEPTUNE
- PLUTO/PLUTO

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Mir,

sorry about your los.

the Neptune/Neptune and Pluto/Pluto one are generational, but will have been "personal" in regards to the houses Neptune and Pluto ruled.

The other two are very interesing. The ASC-Neptune one sounds pretty dreamy. I wonder what houses Neptune ruled (in Placidus).

posted February 25, 2012 05:54 AM              

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Originally posted by Starlover:
I had that synastry with someone.

1) His Venus-Sun was conj my Moon-Mars (and opp'd our Plutos).
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It was the most harmonious and equal relationship I've ever had. It was so fun and easy to be together. Of course there was a lot of attraction. We were on the same wavelength.

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Starlover,

posted February 25, 2012 05:56 AM              

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Yes, I believe he is my twin flame...

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