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Desiring Shadows
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posted February 24, 2012 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

My venus and mercury square neptune. (Chart listed.) Its pretty bad.

Is there an aspect where I would be able to get into a loving stable relationship with someone and have them counteract my neptune squares? One which makes me realistic and not have the aspect so much?



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posted February 24, 2012 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
My venus and mercury square neptune. (Chart listed.) Its pretty bad.

Is there an aspect where I would be able to get into a loving stable relationship with someone and have them counteract my neptune squares? One which makes me realistic and not have the aspect so much?



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posted February 24, 2012 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tautomer4314     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The key is self awareness. No astrological aspect is "permanent" in the sense that it can not be worked on and learned. I have mars opposing neptune and saturn and I don't let that get me down anymore. Find where the weakness is, and see if there is any way to stop it. In my case, I simply has to gain confidence, learn to stand my ground, and stick to my convictions. In yours, I think you will need to learn to be attentive and discriminate through the people you meet. Remain objective, and view them as they are, not based off your ideals.

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posted February 24, 2012 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Still_Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tautemer:
"I simply has to gain confidence, learn to stand my ground, and stick to my convictions."
Bravo!!!!
I do agree wholeheartedly!

I have neptune and my first house conj asc.
The self awareness is the key! Conference is a key! Conviction is a key!

However, I want to add following:
Besides that, I consult with a person whom I love and trust the most.
It does not mean that you will follow their advice but rather will give a second opinion on the matter.
it can be difficult and painful as Neptune does not like to be told the truth

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posted February 24, 2012 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminisquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with him. I think the problem especially when neptune is involved, its hard to be realistic and think logically. Especially since neptune is idealistic. In relationships you have to be sober in away and its not always easy, its hard work because you're dealing with another person with entirely different aspirations and desires then yourself. My father for example has venus and moon conjunct neptune. He just assumes everyone is always happy, and never sees things for what they really are.
You can do it

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posted February 24, 2012 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I think the chart can be overcome by Higher Laws--Spiritual Laws

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SaggiMC
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posted February 24, 2012 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
My venus and mercury square neptune. (Chart listed.) Its pretty bad.

Is there an aspect where I would be able to get into a loving stable relationship with someone and have them counteract my neptune squares? One which makes me realistic and not have the aspect so much?


when you say (chart listed) where is the chart?? what signs are they in? what houses are they in? and more importantly what are the *other aspects* these planets have?

If you have some saturn making aspects to mercury and venus, that would help keep you grounded. If uranus is in the mix you could be a thrill seeking and pluto is all about control or be controlled...

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posted February 24, 2012 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
for relationships, look to 7th and 5th houses. do you have any planets in these houses? next look to the ruler of 7th and 5th and where it posited and aspected..

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Desiring Shadows
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posted February 24, 2012 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by tautomer4314:
The key is self awareness. No astrological aspect is "permanent" in the sense that it can not be worked on and learned. I have mars opposing neptune and saturn and I don't let that get me down anymore. Find where the weakness is, and see if there is any way to stop it. In my case, I simply has to gain confidence, learn to stand my ground, and stick to my convictions. In yours, I think you will need to learn to be attentive and discriminate through the people you meet. Remain objective, and view them as they are, not based off your ideals.




It's good that you don't let people bring you down. I think what we neptune afflicted folk should do, especially you with the mars, is think less about it & take more action.
Being that moon square saturn I am, I was very practical & I tried to transform a friend of mine into one of my ideals. Lmao. Kind of funny now that I think about it. (Fortunately they were a sun conjuct neptune, & very willing. hee hee.)
All in all, thats really great advice. Can't change the blue print, minus well better it. Also, remember the Astrological Energy thread?



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Desiring Shadows
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posted February 24, 2012 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tautomer4314:
The key is self awareness. No astrological aspect is "permanent" in the sense that it can not be worked on and learned. I have mars opposing neptune and saturn and I don't let that get me down anymore. Find where the weakness is, and see if there is any way to stop it. In my case, I simply has to gain confidence, learn to stand my ground, and stick to my convictions. In yours, I think you will need to learn to be attentive and discriminate through the people you meet. Remain objective, and view them as they are, not based off your ideals.




It's good that you don't let people bring you down. I think what we neptune afflicted folk should do, especially you with the mars, is think less about it & take more action.
Being that moon square saturn I am, I was very practical & I tried to transform a friend of mine into one of my ideals. Lmao. Kind of funny now that I think about it. (Fortunately they were a sun conjuct neptune, & very willing. hee hee.)
All in all, thats really great advice. Can't change the blue print, minus well better it. Also, remember the Astrological Energy thread?



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aquaguy91
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posted February 24, 2012 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
anything is possible XD you just gotta stay grounded and be really careful,my venus is heavily afflicted,it squares mars,the moon,uranus,pluto,and quincunxes chiron exact and to make matters worse progressed neptune has been conjuncting my natal venus for a long time,i have definitely had trouble really seeing the girls i been interested in, everything seems great until reality checks in,thank goodness its moving out of orb,i say good riddance! XD i almost forgot chiron is moving into orb of my venus, why cant they just leave my poor venus alone
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Desiring Shadows
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posted February 24, 2012 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Still_Hopeful:
Tautemer:
"I simply has to gain confidence, learn to stand my ground, and stick to my convictions."
Bravo!!!!
I do agree wholeheartedly!

I have neptune and my first house conj asc.
The self awareness is the key! Conference is a key! Conviction is a key!

However, I want to add following:
Besides that, I consult with a person whom I love and trust the most.
It does not mean that you will follow their advice but rather will give a second opinion on the matter.
it can be difficult and painful as Neptune does not like to be told the truth




True as well. Parts of my life I have accepted that I live in a world that is shaped by my own lies, and I am fine with it. Sometimes the simplest of facts hurt me so much that I just want to erase the entire thought from existing. (iGNORAnCe is BlIsS!) But then again, if you shape it the right way, it could be just as sweet! Just like 'OF MICE AND MEN; The entire book George & Lenny were chasing after a dream and it gave them hope; therefore keeping them HAPPY! When in all reality, they weren't exactly living on cloud nine.



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Desiring Shadows
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posted February 24, 2012 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Geminisquared:
I agree with him. I think the problem especially when neptune is involved, its hard to be realistic and think logically. Especially since neptune is idealistic. In relationships you have to be sober in away and its not always easy, its hard work because you're dealing with another person with entirely different aspirations and desires then yourself. My father for example has venus and moon conjunct neptune. He just assumes everyone is always happy, and never sees things for what they really are.
You can [b]

do it


Agreed about the aspirations part and your father seems like he has a pretty good outlook on things!
Gosh, what you just wrote seems like something I would put. You promise youre not me? lolz



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Desiring Shadows
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posted February 24, 2012 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SaggiMC:




My apologies, I didn't realize that the chart wasn't actually listed. lolz
I posted the chart now if you would like to go look.(*Whenever Desiring Shadows' text talk oisn't bolded with that little rainbow line/star, then she is using her cell phone.*) I don't have any saturn to mercury/venus aspects. YES I have uranus.


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Desiring Shadows
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posted February 24, 2012 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
anything is possible XD you just gotta stay grounded and be really careful,my venus is heavily afflicted,it squares mars,the moon,uranus,pluto,and quincunxes chiron exact and to make matters worse progressed neptune has been conjuncting my natal venus for a long time,i have definitely had trouble really seeing the girls i been interested in, everything seems great until reality checks in,thank goodness its moving out of orb,i say good riddance! XD i almost forgot chiron is moving into orb of my venus, why cant they just leave my poor venus alone
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Lmao! You are definately an aquarius with mercury in aquarius/11th house.



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posted February 24, 2012 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by aquaguy91:
anything is possible XD you just gotta stay grounded and be really careful,my venus is heavily afflicted,it squares mars,the moon,uranus,pluto,and quincunxes chiron exact and to make matters worse progressed neptune has been conjuncting my natal venus for a long time,i have definitely had trouble really seeing the girls i been interested in, everything seems great until reality checks in,thank goodness its moving out of orb,i say good riddance! XD i almost forgot chiron is moving into orb of my venus, why cant they just leave my poor venus alone
-_-



Lmao! You are definately an aquarius with mercury in aquarius/11th house.



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posted February 24, 2012 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[b] anything is possible XD you just gotta stay grounded and be really careful,my venus is heavily afflicted,it squares mars,the moon,uranus,pluto,and quincunxes chiron exact and to make matters worse progressed neptune has been conjuncting my natal venus for a long time,i have definitely had trouble really seeing the girls i been interested in, everything seems great until reality checks in,thank goodness its moving out of orb,i say good riddance! XD i almost forgot chiron is moving into orb of my venus, why cant they just leave my poor venus alone
-_-



Lmao! You are definately an aquarius with mercury in aquarius/11th house.


[/B][/QUOTE]
how so?XD and you are definititely a libra :P

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posted February 24, 2012 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[b] anything is possible XD you just gotta stay grounded and be really careful,my venus is heavily afflicted,it squares mars,the moon,uranus,pluto,and quincunxes chiron exact and to make matters worse progressed neptune has been conjuncting my natal venus for a long time,i have definitely had trouble really seeing the girls i been interested in, everything seems great until reality checks in,thank goodness its moving out of orb,i say good riddance! XD i almost forgot chiron is moving into orb of my venus, why cant they just leave my poor venus alone
-_-



Lmao! You are definately an aquarius with mercury in aquarius/11th house.


[/B][/QUOTE]
how so?XD and you are definititely a libra :P

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posted February 24, 2012 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
[b] [QUOTE]Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[b] anything is possible XD you just gotta stay grounded and be really careful,my venus is heavily afflicted,it squares mars,the moon,uranus,pluto,and quincunxes chiron exact and to make matters worse progressed neptune has been conjuncting my natal venus for a long time,i have definitely had trouble really seeing the girls i been interested in, everything seems great until reality checks in,thank goodness its moving out of orb,i say good riddance! XD i almost forgot chiron is moving into orb of my venus, why cant they just leave my poor venus alone
-_-



Lmao! You are definately an aquarius with mercury in aquarius/11th house.


[/B][/QUOTE]
how so?XD and you are definititely a libra :P[/B][/QUOTE]

"Just leave my poor little venus sign alone. -_-"

Seriously, who says that? LMAO! Jk, IT's FINE. Libra? How so?


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posted February 24, 2012 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
"Just leave my poor little venus sign alone. -_-"

Seriously, who says that? LMAO! Jk, IT's FINE. Libra? How so?


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well i do because its very special to me ;p, and because of your pretty lil dimples my dear XD

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Desiring Shadows
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posted February 24, 2012 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
well i do because its very special to me ;p, and because of your pretty lil dimples my dear XD

THANKS.
You're a teenager also,right?

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posted February 24, 2012 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
THANKS.
You're a teenager also,right?

nope just turned 21 in january, haha are you, dang you looked older

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posted February 24, 2012 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
nope just turned 21 in january, haha are you, dang you looked older


Wow, that's really unpolite to say to someone! I am a teenager. I'm also the only one smiling in those pictures.... !

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posted February 24, 2012 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[b] nope just turned 21 in january, haha are you, dang you looked older



Wow, that's really unpolite to say to someone! I am a teenager. I'm also the only one smiling in those pictures.... !
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nah didnt mean it bad,i figured you were about 18,19,or 20

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posted February 24, 2012 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
[b] [QUOTE]Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[b] nope just turned 21 in january, haha are you, dang you looked older



Wow, that's really unpolite to say to someone! I am a teenager. I'm also the only one smiling in those pictures.... !
[/B][/QUOTE]
nah didnt mean it bad,i figured you were about 18,19,or 20 [/B][/QUOTE]


I'm pretty close! Okay, well... This is kind of getting off topic, so I'll just see you around.
Maybe in another Astrology thread? Bye!

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