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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted February 27, 2012 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is my single major challenging aspect in my synastry with my wife.

Would like your input.

Her Saturn in 10th House in Aries Squares my Neptune in 7th House in Virgo by 0 degrees and 26 minutes.

I don't know how to interpret this one, but I have heard it as both negative and very positive. The third reference below is what I have generally relied on: that Saturn is the discipline, and that Saturn controls the idealism in Neptune.

Then, there's the negative SkyView Zone version that essentially says that the Saturn person behaves like a controlling wet blanket.

Remember that the wife is Saturn and I'm the Neptune, so don't start slinging arrows at me about being controlling

The truth of the matter is that I'm a Capricorn and I am a control freak. Just that my wife is a Leo and she is an even bigger control freak. However, I'm the more practial Capricorn and she's the more creative Leo, so the fault probably goes both directions.

Keep in mind that this is a marriage of two strong personalities. My wife behaves like a real lioness and she would take off the head of anyone she doesn't like. I'm a very strong personality myself. We yield control to each other out of love, but would not accept being subordinated to anyone else.

I'll generally write this off as a lost cause because I neither understand nor have control over the situation.

So, this is one challenging aspect that is not easily mitigated unless I change my fundamental serious Capricornian personality and give up wanting to steer the ship, which is not easy. Telling a Leo to stop wanting to rule the roost is like pacifying a lioness. Not going to happen.

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From: http://www.throughnightsfire.com/SaturnNeptuneconnections.html

The square between Saturn-Neptune in the Synastry chart can indicate a karmic lover relationship, but the lovers have not usually lost one another through their love, that is, their relationship didn't cause or contribute to the death of one or both partners as can be the case with the Saturn-Neptune opposition in a karmic house touching a planet or light in both individual nativities. The square more often indicates that there were difficult circumstances in the past that the two individuals failed to handle appropriately and they will once again face a similar situation together. Their incompetence may have cost lives, particularly if they were involved in the medical profession or were military leaders. This configuration can appear when both partners need to work toward a goal that will benefit mankind. It can become a driving force behind a team dedicated to helping others. The square will often be strong enough to hold the two people together if they are able to focus the energy outside the relationship rather than within it. The fear that lingers so deeply with the opposition could manifest within the relationship with the Saturn-Neptune square, but it isn’t likely to be as strong nor focused within the relationship. For instance, meeting the other person could bring up unknown fears and insecurities within each individual, but they will not be fearful of the other person. Instead, they may come to lean on the other to offer support and help them overcome the new fears as they develop. Fear of professional success or health maladies may be brought to the forefront through the connection. For instance, one partner may be scared to take a risk in order to make more money or gain prestige in his or her profession while the other partner develops allergies or begins to worry excessively about cancer or another terrible disease.

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From Sky View Zone:

Saturn square Neptune:

What does it mean to your relationship when your natal Saturn is square your partner’s Neptune? You cannot seem to find substance or a feeling of security in your relationship when you consider your partner’s lack of practicality and common sense. Demanding that he/she settle down and takes responsibility is not productive. If your romantic partner’s Saturn is square your Neptune, you may feel loss of self esteem and creativity when your partner demands that you face reality and adopt his/her way of doing things. You feel he/she just doesn’t understand your creative process.


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If you want a relationship to last, you need to have Saturn contacts.

Saturn is the planet of responsibility, hard work, reality, dedication and time. A relationship can’t survive if the people in it don’t feel a sense of responsibility for one another. Any meaningful relationship requires work and effort, and a mutual sense of obligation binds people together.

Relationships that last have to pass a reality test. Summer romances don’t need Saturn contacts, flings don’t need Saturn contacts, but if you want lasting love, you want Saturn contacts. Saturn contacts form enduring bonds.

Neptune-Saturn

The Neptune person learns the limits of illusion, fantasy and idealism.

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SaggiMC
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posted February 27, 2012 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's YOUR saturn in 12th square to her neptune in 5th

her neptune is part of Yod with her Saturn retro as Apex planet. Cancer Asc and chart ruler in 12th. Her chart ruler Moon is her MOST challenged planet her with square to pluto showing a strain with mother

not sure why you have brought this over to this forum as you have researched and has two readings already...

You also have moon trine saturn - excellent
You have 3nodal contacts, conj jupiter and sextile venus and jupiter.

You need to research your secondary progressions as prog Sun, moon Asc and MC may make these saturn contacts. I only have two saturn contacts with my partner. Two is bettern than none. As it happens I have very few with my family aand have little contacts. I have 5saturn contacts with my son and never see him...

Now one challenge or square in a relationship can be overcome with other good cross aspects, good communications, compromise and captiluations....

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I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.”

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posted February 27, 2012 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
perhaps what you should be looking at is your quincunx signs, cappi sun and leo are 150' by sign.

Leo is fixed and fire sign. Again all fixed signs are stubborn and don’t like changes unless it suits them but has lots of loyalty and fidelity. Fire tends to act first and think later. Leo are usually sociable, confident extrovert focusing on love and partnerships, but always want the control (like Scorpio) very bossy, very well organised. Wants to be the centre of attention if not will have tantrum or throw toys out of pram. Lots of pride, occasional arrogance and tends to be bit theatrical (some should be on the stage)

Capricorn is cardinal and earth. Capricorns, serious, hardworking ambitious. Care very much about status, achievements and career and what people will think. Practical, excellent with money and hanging onto it longer and harder than the rest of us. Cancer and Capricorn share these traits tight…. Capricorn and Cancer are also the two hoarders of the zodiac, Cancer hordes for emotional and sentimental reasons, old birthday cards, anniversary cards old photos anything looking back. Capricorns hoards for practical reasons, these people have attic or/and garage full of junk just in case the brownies want a pair of curtains cutting up for something. Capricorns always want value for money and expect their purchases to last. Capricorn will always want to structure the life of Gemini and keep them grounded, which is probably what they need. Capricorn and Scorpio at the two least sociable signs. Hence the problem Leo wants to be centre of attention and wants to be in control and Capricorn want someone ambitious, hardworking who will get them the status, achievements and recognition they want.

what should help is water sign Asc and your Node close to her Asc in cancer

I suspect your venus conj pluto has something to do with this to.

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athenegoddess
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posted February 27, 2012 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since it's outer planets I wouldn't worry about it too much. But it is exact so idk.

But Neptune also rules your 1st house I thought? And falls into the 9th? Maybe I got you mixed up.

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted February 27, 2012 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry the signs for Neptune and Uranus look so much alike. I got them mixed up.

I brought it here because no one else besides you responds to the thread in PR.

The first question I get in astrology is "what is the problem?". I say "none, just learning". And I get "Oh". Attitude is why you bugging us then?

I'll certain get a great instantaneous response to "I thought my boss's mom is hot and I got her pregnant".

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posted February 27, 2012 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it's harsh but it's Definitely not a deal-breaker :]
then again I'm sure you know that since your married afterall

Question, what other saturn aspects do you share in your synastry?

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted February 27, 2012 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't want to have this moved to PR, so I won't post the chart. I'm horizontal.

This is only for aspects less than 3 degrees.

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posted February 28, 2012 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
An article I once found on Saturn-Neptune (though it adds a karmic perspective)
http://www.throughnightsfire.com/SaturnNeptuneconnections.html

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