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Desiring Shadows
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posted March 02, 2012 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello LL, I've missed you. It's your good ole Desiring Shadows with a story to tell. <3

So I got caught up with my depression & figured I needed a life change. I was skipping school for weeks. My wonderful A's & B's all dropped to F's. My parents got involved offering to 'drive me' to school, rather than me taking the bus. (Allowing me to sleep in more and have time to catch up with my work.) Then when I wouldn't get in the car, but simply cried and screamed how I was going to "kill myself." They plainly had to baker act me. Allegedly I have social anxiety and thats been affecting my decisions with school and friends down to relationships all of my life. Recently it's taken its toll on me, sending me to a MENTAL HOSPITAL/FACILITY for days & withholding me in group therapy sessions with other teenagers alike.
To put it in short, I learned a lot. This is a very different period of my life --- one which I feel numb (?) and overwhelmed (?) like I have no intimate friends and everything is changing.
I'm also very negative lately. So sorry if whaT I wrote was negative and or depressing/ I am sincerely trying not to be.

NOW FOR MY CHART----- (Transits/progressed/natal combined)

Would something in this chart indicate someone wanting to give up & quit everything they've worked so hard for? Could you tell me when these alternations will happen for the better or stop altogether?

P.s. for those of you who knew or know me, I'm sorry you had to hear that.

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Doreen
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posted March 02, 2012 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doreen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The first thing I saw when I looked at your chart was Mercury Square Uranus I don't like that in a natal chart anyway I hope you get some helpful answers soon
Consider this a bump

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aquaguy91
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posted March 02, 2012 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
Hello LL, I've missed you. It's your good ole Desiring Shadows with a story to tell. <3

So I got caught up with my depression & figured I needed a life change. I was skipping school for weeks. My wonderful A's & B's all dropped to F's. My parents got involved offering to 'drive me' to school, rather than me taking the bus. (Allowing me to sleep in more and have time to catch up with my work.) Then when I wouldn't get in the car, but simply cried and screamed how I was going to "kill myself." They plainly had to baker act me. Allegedly I have social anxiety and thats been affecting my decisions with school and friends down to relationships all of my life. Recently it's taken its toll on me, sending me to a MENTAL HOSPITAL/FACILITY for days & withholding me in group therapy sessions with other teenagers alike.
To put it in short, I learned a lot. This is a very different period of my life --- one which I feel numb (?) and overwhelmed (?) like I have no intimate friends and everything is changing.
I'm also very negative lately. So sorry if whaT I wrote was negative and or depressing/ I am sincerely trying not to be.

NOW FOR MY CHART----- (Transits/progressed/natal combined)

Would something in this chart indicate someone wanting to give up & quit everything they've worked so hard for? Could you tell me when these alternations will happen for the better or stop altogether?

P.s. for those of you who knew or know me, I'm sorry you had to hear that.


LL has missed you too

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NativelyJoan
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posted March 02, 2012 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NativelyJoan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn's transiting through Libra, and will finally be leaving this year which may be cause for pessimism and a feeling of lingering isolation. I'm a Libra, like you, and I've felt this feeling for a while now, 3 years to be exact. It doesn't help that you have Mars and Pluto in Scorpio in the 6th house, meaning this is where Saturn will be transiting next when it moves into Scorpio this fall. It hasn't been an easy few years for you and it might potentially feel like a continued struggle with Saturn moving into Scorpio however the most important part of experiencing Saturn transits is to deal with them wholeheartedly and to stay positive.

Use this time to look within yourself and better understand who you are and what you're needs are. If life feels confusing and chaotic it might mean something needs to change. Looking at your chart I noticed you are quite young. The coming years will be crucial for you as you begin to understand yourself as a individual moving into adulthood. Stay positive and really take the time to look within yourself. You've already begun that by discussing your story with us here on LL and beginning the necessary inner work. You'll get through this. Relationships are important to you however rest assured after going through this period you'll be in a better place to establish solid and healthy intimate relationships that could last your whole life.

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Desiring Shadows
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posted March 02, 2012 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Doreen:
The first thing I saw when I looked at your chart was Mercury Square Uranus I don't like that in a natal chart anyway I hope you get some helpful answers soon
Consider this a bump

Thanks!! And I think it's brilliant.

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Desiring Shadows
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posted March 02, 2012 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by aquaguy91:
LL has missed you too


<3 Aw.

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Desiring Shadows
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posted March 02, 2012 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NativelyJoan:
Saturn's transiting through Libra, and will finally be leaving this year which may be cause for pessimism and a feeling of lingering isolation. I'm a Libra, like you, and I've felt this feeling for a while now, 3 years to be exact. It doesn't help that you have Mars and Pluto in Scorpio in the 6th house, meaning this is where Saturn will be transiting next when it moves into Scorpio this fall. It hasn't been an easy few years for you and it might potentially feel like a continued struggle with Saturn moving into Scorpio however the most important part of experiencing Saturn transits is to deal with them wholeheartedly and to stay positive.

Use this time to look within yourself and better understand who you are and what you're needs are. If life feels confusing and chaotic it might mean something needs to change. Looking at your chart I noticed you are quite young. The coming years will be crucial for you as you begin to understand yourself as a individual moving into adulthood. Stay positive and really take the time to look within yourself. You've already begun that by discussing your story with us here on LL and beginning the necessary inner work. You'll get through this. Relationships are important to you however rest assured after going through this period you'll be in a better place to establish solid and healthy intimate relationships that could last your whole life.


Thank you!! Okay. Good advice... So there is hope, hm..

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Doreen
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posted March 02, 2012 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doreen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
Thanks!! And I think it's [b]brilliant. [/B]

I'm glad you think it's brilliant

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mercuranian
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posted March 02, 2012 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuranian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Doreen:
The first thing I saw when I looked at your chart was Mercury Square Uranus I don't like that in a natal chart anyway I hope you get some helpful answers soon
Consider this a bump

a 10 degree orb. really?

the 1st thing i noticed was a sun / chiron conjunction. im sorry, i didn't realize what a doozy that aspect can be

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Desiring Shadows
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posted March 02, 2012 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mercuranian:
a 10 degree orb. really?

the 1st thing i noticed was a sun / chiron conjunction. im sorry, i didn't realize what a doozy that aspect can be




Noticed about what? The Chiron-sun aspect is telling you what? I don't understand what you mean... LOL.

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aquaguy91
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posted March 02, 2012 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[b] LL has missed you too



<3 Aw.
[/B][/QUOTE]

am i gonna have to cheer you up

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aquaguy91
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posted March 02, 2012 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[b] LL has missed you too



<3 Aw.
[/B][/QUOTE]

am i gonna have to cheer you up

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Desiring Shadows
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posted March 02, 2012 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
am i gonna have to cheer you up

Lol. Doesn't matter, the feelings will come back either way.
Plus you're too good to be brought down by me. Just be your happy self.

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aquaguy91
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posted March 02, 2012 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
Lol. Doesn't matter, the feelings will come back either way.
Plus you're too good to be brought down by me. Just be your happy self.

just putting it out there but i know what its like being in a dark place (sun conjunct saturn in the twelfth) just try to stay positive and not get to you so much,i hope you feel better

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SaggiMC
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posted March 02, 2012 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
only thing I can see is T neptune quincunx natal chiron. As we know chiron is our wounds and conj sun ain't great

"CHIRON IN ASPECT TO THE SUN
When Chiron aspects the Sun, the full sense of self, of being who really are, is related to the degree that we experience spirituality, higher consciousness, in our lives. This aspect has to do with identifying one's dharma, one's path in life, and then the nature of the aspect shows whether this path has been constant stress or progressive actualization. With stressful aspects such as conjunctions, squares, and oppositions, the years up to forty will be difficult. Natives will feel the destiny they sense inside is not reflected by their reality. Those with sextiles, trines, and even quincunxes, are naturally spiritual beings at an early age. They often stay away from experiences which might confuse their natural spiritualized sense of self. They also may have a superiority complex, a sense of being above others. They have charisma, and others are wary of them, as noted by Zane Stein.
With Chiron conjunct the Sun, the innate sense of destiny is so strong that normal patterns are rarely lived out. This native is unique; he or she bums with purpose and creativity. Marc Robertson noticed that most people are at a peak level of success when Saturn transits the natal midheaven, and that most people go into a deep inward search when Saturn crosses the rising. Most people have a success cycle when they experience the Jupiter return. Those with Chiron conjunct the Sun seem to have a different timing going on. Chart 2 is that of a young healer who has been a mystic since early childhood, and is an extraordinary healer at the present time. Her mother is a great mystic and healer, and this native created the correct environment around herself to manifest her power of Chiron conjunct Sun."
The following is from "Chiron-Transforming Bridge Between the Inner and Outer Planets" by Barbara Hand Clow

What Astrology Can and Can Not Do http://www.ofspirit.com/susanmiller1.htm http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/whatastrologycandoforyou.html http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_kdvalue_e.htm

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mercuranian
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posted March 02, 2012 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuranian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ what saggie said
that your sun chiron aspect was probably the source of your pain until you work through it and transmute it

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winter
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posted March 02, 2012 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for winter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your 7° Asc/Dsc axis is within orb of last Novembers eclipse which was recently squared by the recent Pisces New Moon on Feb 22nd. The transiting nodes are also within orb of straddling your Asc/Dsc along with transit Chiron about to square that axis. Transit Uranus has also been opposing your natal Chiron for some time.

Around the time of that Feb Pisces New Moon the transiting opposition Mercury and Mars created a t-square with your natal Moon Saturn square.

The past few years have been hitting you hard with Pluto squaring your Sun (IC ruler) and then Saturn picking off all those 5th house Libra planets which also rule the 12th house.

As with all sh*tty transits, they too will pass though not much of a consolation when in the midst of depression. Be kind to yourself and don’t be afraid to seek further professional help to get you through this period.

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posted March 02, 2012 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Would something in this chart indicate someone wanting to give up & quit everything they've worked so hard for?

Yes. pSun in Libra sq pMoon in Cancer. There are two squares in the Progressed Lunation Cycle: the applying square, Libra-Capricorn & the separating square, Libra-Cancer. Both squares are challenging (lol).

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Desiring Shadows
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posted March 02, 2012 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mercuranian:
^^ what saggie said
that your sun chiron aspect was probably the source of your pain until you work through it and transmute it

Thanks.

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Desiring Shadows
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posted March 02, 2012 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by winter:
Your 7° Asc/Dsc axis is within orb of last Novembers eclipse which was recently squared by the recent Pisces New Moon on Feb 22nd. The transiting nodes are also within orb of straddling your Asc/Dsc along with transit Chiron about to square that axis. Transit Uranus has also been opposing your natal Chiron for some time.

Around the time of that Feb Pisces New Moon the transiting opposition Mercury and Mars created a t-square with your natal Moon Saturn square.

The past few years have been hitting you hard with Pluto squaring your Sun (IC ruler) and then Saturn picking off all those 5th house Libra planets which also rule the 12th house.

As with all sh*tty transits, they too will pass though not much of a consolation when in the midst of depression. Be kind to yourself and don’t be afraid to seek further professional help to get you through this period.


Thank you g-d. lol.
And thank you for explaing this... I'm trying to become well again. It's just difficult.

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Desiring Shadows
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posted March 02, 2012 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nine:
Yes. pSun in Libra sq pMoon in Cancer. There are two squares in the Progressed Lunation Cycle: the applying square, Libra-Capricorn & the separating square, Libra-Cancer. Both squares are challenging (lol).


Sun square moon is like what Ami Anne must've meant in that other thread! I get it now! Where what your instinctively want is not being met with what you are doing..

I don't know whether I feel it or not. I can't pinpoint it, to be truthful.

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posted March 02, 2012 09:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I did not get to that yet, Sweetie!

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Nine
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posted March 02, 2012 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Sun square moon is like what Ami Anne must've meant in that other thread! I get it now! Where what your instinctively want is not being met with what you are doing..

I doubt it. AA doesn't work with progressions.

Anyway, pSun in Libra w/ pMoon in Cancer points to a period of letting go. You're entering a period of preparation for a new cycle but first you much wind up and bring closure to the old cycle. This particular square denotes an outside challenge. You're asked to give up something you worked really hard to obtain/achieve. This "thing" you're holding onto has served it's purpose, and must be left behind because a new you is dawning. Your struggle is not coming from the intrinsic value of the thing, but the effort or memory of the effort exerted in obtaining it.

A new you will be born whether you're ready or not. The success and adjustment of the new person will depend of the baggage you take or not take to the rebirthal.

Think back if you can to the events in your life around ages 8 & 9. Those years marked the last flash point in the current cycle. In conjunction to this your South Node was activated around this time.

I'll go out on a limp and say at around age 8 & 9 you were not an individual, but an extension of you parents - physically, psychically, and karmically. Drama from their lives spilled into yours and their karmic debt collector came knocking at your door demanding payment.


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Doreen
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posted March 03, 2012 12:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doreen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mercuranian:
a 10 degree orb. really?

the 1st thing i noticed was a sun / chiron conjunction. im sorry, i didn't realize what a doozy that aspect can be


Aha even a 10° orb
I have seen it charts of mentally ill people and I was just reading about it the other day


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Lava Flower
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posted March 03, 2012 01:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lava Flower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Making a division chart of your natal and the day you had a break down with the exact time if possible may also lead to some clues.

Hope you feel better soon

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