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Starry~*
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posted March 05, 2012 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Starry~*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ok I re-did my birth chart using whole signs system.

I have my moon, mars and sun in the 12th, Libra.

My venus is in the 1st. So the ruler of the 12th in the 1st.


I posted this amid all the turmoil and it got lost..haha

I wanna continue with the topic of this thread!! Haha :P

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Ami Anne
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posted March 05, 2012 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow you have ALL those in the 12th? Do you feel you had a life with a lot of suffering?

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Ami Anne
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posted March 05, 2012 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
R of 1st in 12th --would be the same as Lalalinda's. Look at the previous page!

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Ami Anne
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posted March 05, 2012 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well all those 12th House planets---if they are 10 degrees close to the ASC--they do not count as 12th House.

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted March 05, 2012 11:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK Ami. Here is the story with Whole Houses. The Sun has moved to 11th House and the Moon has moved to the 4th House. Otherwise, little has changed.

Ruler of empty 3rd House in Taurus is Venus sitting in 12th House in Aquarius.

Ruler of empty 8th House in Libra is Venus sitting in 12th House in Aquarius.

Ruler of Sun in 11th House in Capricorn is Saturn sitting in the 12th House in Aquarius.

Ruler of Venus and Saturn in the 12th House in Aquarius is Pluto in the 7th House in Virgo.

Basically nothing has changed apart from the Sun moving.

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Ami Anne
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posted March 06, 2012 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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My 2 cents. You don't feel like a 12th house Sun to me. You can put yourself out there--no problem

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posted March 06, 2012 08:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK --on this you have Chiron conj the ASC--that makes total sense in light of your father abusing you in a public way.

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Ami Anne
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posted March 06, 2012 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your 11th House planets make sense as you want to have a foundation for children.One would need an 11th House stellium for this.

I don't see your pluto and Uranus in the 7th but as your marriage has been an oasis not an upheaval but we will accept this chart.

That gives you a Pisces ASC. That gives you a 12th House Saturn which I can see better than the Sun. You do not seem like a 12th house Venus to me in how expressive you are of your love but that may be Moon trine Venus lol

Anyway===we can talk about your 12th house Saturn as that seems as if it really fits to me and might give you much light on the matter. Do you want to do that Sweetie?

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posted March 06, 2012 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ian
My 2 cents. You don't feel like a 12th house Sun to me. You can put yourself out there--no problem



No Ami,

There is no way I'm a 12th House Sun.

In fact, I quite insist that I'm a 10th House Sun, although this Whole House system puts my Sun into 11th House, which I would accept.

Having said that, I've never relied on friendships or social organizations, and like I said, my wife is my single best friend in all the universe.

An 11th House Sun indicates that I aspire to leadership in social organizations, which I absolutely do not.

I don't crave for popularity either, and Starry would know about my bouts of verbal tantrums where I speak my mind in the most forthright manner. I walk around work like Arnold in the Terminator, blowing up every bridge I encounter and beating everyone up on the head to drive my point across. I evern get into tiffs with my bosses. They respect me for speaking up and being gutsy, but certainly I'm not diplomatic and don't make friends that way. Therefore, 11th House Sun is really a bit odd. But I will accept it.

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posted March 06, 2012 08:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
OK --on this you have Chiron conj the ASC--that makes total sense in light of your father abusing you in a public way.



Well, to be fair, it wasn't just my father. In my mind, it was the society I grew up in. It was as though I was a round peg in an environment of square holes. I was absolutely miserable, and my father is still very mad at me for having such sentiments about my childhood. I can't help it. I hate it to the upteenth degree. I should have been born in the American Southwest, perhaps in Texas or somewhere like that, because I embody the western pioneer spirit.

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posted March 06, 2012 08:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, to me the oddest thing is your shake ups in the 7th house when your marriage has been your stability and the health things have been your shake ups but we will leave it as is with that.

The only other thing which does not make sense big time to me is a 12th House Venus as you are super expressive of your love even sending me that Micheal Buble(sp) song lol


Do you feel like you can express your love openly? If so, you would not be a 12th House Venus imo

The Saturn I would accept as 12th House easily and readily based on your life Ian

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posted March 06, 2012 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Well, to be fair, it wasn't just my father. In my mind, it was the society I grew up in. It was as though I was a round peg in an environment of square holes. I was absolutely miserable, and my father is still very mad at me for having such sentiments about my childhood. I can't help it. I hate it to the upteenth degree. I should have been born in the American Southwest, perhaps in Texas or somewhere like that, because I embody the western pioneer spirit.


Right I got that about the culture of your childhood. You do seem like a Texan--gun rack on the back of your truck

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posted March 06, 2012 08:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I don't see your pluto and Uranus in the 7th but as your marriage has been an oasis not an upheaval but we will accept this chart.

The marriage was extremely sudden. You do know that we consummated marriage within 11 weeks and agreed to marriage in 22 days. We have her Venus Conjunct my Uranus in 7th House, and we have a Composite 5 planet Stellium in the 7th House. The marriage was extremely sudden and extremely strong.

Of course, there will also be naysayers that say the marriage would suddenly end, but its been 19 years and has been going well, and a lot of these naysayers can't hold a relationship, let alone a marriage.

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posted March 06, 2012 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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That gives you a Pisces ASC. That gives you a 12th House Saturn which I can see better than the Sun. You do not seem like a 12th house Venus to me in how expressive you are of your love but that may be Moon trine Venus lol


There have been folks that point to my adoring of women as Venus in 12th House. I can't help it. All my proper friends are women, and friends adore friends. There is nothing secretive about friendships, and all is Kosher as long as friendships are platonic.

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posted March 06, 2012 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, we can use this chart as is, but what do you think of what I said about a 12th House Venus?

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posted March 06, 2012 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Anyway===we can talk about your 12th house Saturn as that seems as if it really fits to me and might give you much light on the matter. Do you want to do that Sweetie?


Very much so.

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted March 06, 2012 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The only other thing which does not make sense big time to me is a 12th House Venus as you are super expressive of your love even sending me that Micheal Buble(sp) song lol


Do you feel like you can express your love openly? If so, you would not be a 12th House Venus imo



My words of affection flow a little too freely and my mouth gets me into trouble.

I write original love poetry. Without my ability to express love, my wife wouldn't have married me.

There's a thread in Soul Unions

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posted March 06, 2012 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Right,exactly. When you sent me that song, MY heart jumped

So, we can assume you don't have a 12th House Venus, so lets look at the Saturn as the 12th House Planet.I think you would be better served that way in my humble opinion.

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posted March 06, 2012 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for strawberrysundae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 06, 2012 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I have Neptune in the 12th in sag 21
Can someone put up a chart for me please (whole house)
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Thank you

I don't know how to post charts lol but I think someone will.

Welcome Strawberry

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posted March 06, 2012 08:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for strawberrysundae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I don't know how to post charts lol but I think someone will.

Welcome Strawberry


That would be wonderful thank you

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posted March 06, 2012 09:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for strawberrysundae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:

My words of affection flow a little too freely and my mouth gets me into trouble.

I write original love poetry. Without my ability to express love, my wife wouldn't have married me.

There's a thread in Soul Unions



You wrote those?! Wow they were great

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posted March 06, 2012 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is your take on 6 ruler in the 12 Ami?


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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted March 06, 2012 09:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You wrote those?! Wow they were great

Err... No Ma'am. I don't have that level of greatness. Those were written by legends. I'm a mere mortal

But I do like poetry and I do have my own poems as well.

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posted March 06, 2012 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for strawberrysundae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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