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Topic: saturn in aspect - brief overview
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SaggiMC Knowflake Posts: 2210 From: UK Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 09, 2012 05:12 PM
NATAL ASPECTS OF SATURN – just very brief key wordsSaturn in aspect to the Sun Sun conjunct Saturn = Self discipline. Sun sextile Saturn = Thinks before taking action. Sun trine Saturn = Honest, practical & reliable. Sun square Saturn = Lack of rapport with father. Saturn in Aspect to the Moon Saturn conjunct Moon = Chained to past memories. Does not let go of romantic ties. Restrained emotionally Saturn square Moon = Lack of confidence from early childhood. Moodiness. Saturn trine Moon =Able to endure hardships. Great deal of common sense. Conservative & caution. Business acumen. Saturn opposite Moon = Lot of discipline in early life. Saturn in Aspect to Mercury Saturn conjunct Mercury = Good for study. Very serious person. Not very communicative. Could over compensate by domineering talk (condescension). Saturn opposite Mercury = Does not communicate easily Saturn in Aspect to Venus Saturn square Venus = Unloved, uncherished " Often feel they have to give out twice as much love as they receive back " Makes a person very self sacrificing for their partners/loved ones. Saturn in Aspect to Mars Saturn conjunct Mars = Doing ones duty in a cautious and constructive manner. Saturn square Mars =Frustration. Wet blanket, always dampening people's enthusiasm. Saturn trine Mars = Gives the ability to bring energy to realistic and workable level. Turn other people's ideas into reality. Action resulting in something sensible and concrete. Saturn quincunx Mars = Suffer in relationships, but couldn't do anything about it. Will possibly never understand why Saturn in Aspect to Jupiter Saturn conjunct Jupiter = Lack of confidence in expanding Saturn square Jupiter = See saw temperament. Lack of ¬confidence. Saturn in Aspect to Uranus Saturn conjunct Uranus = Fear of unknown, should try & learn to accept change. Saturn square Uranus = Freedom verses convention. Saturn in Aspect to Neptune Saturn conjunct Neptune =Fear of the unknown. Saturn square Neptune =Fear of the unknown. Possibly depressive. Saturn in Aspect to Pluto Saturn conjunct Pluto = Strong ambition Saturn square Pluto = Strong desire to prove oneself. Hefty power drives and ambition. taken from my thread in basic forum on Saturn http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000660.html ------------------ I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.” IP: Logged |
RedScorp Knowflake Posts: 1284 From: Ontario, Canada! Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 09, 2012 05:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by SaggiMC: Saturn in Aspect to Venus
How about the trine? IP: Logged |
Adam Knowflake Posts: 69 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted March 09, 2012 06:08 PM
What have you got on Venus conjunct SaturnIP: Logged |
Moonfish Knowflake Posts: 1123 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 09, 2012 06:10 PM
I only have quintiles w/ Saturn lol IP: Logged |
SaggiMC Knowflake Posts: 2210 From: UK Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 10, 2012 03:58 AM
quote: Originally posted by Moonfish: I only have quintiles w/ Saturn lol
they are such a minor aspect, I don't use them, but they are supposed to show 'hidden talent' http://cafeastrology.com/natal/quintile_biquintile.html Quintiles “Aspects are angles made by planets, with respect to the centre of the Earth. They are measured along the ecliptic (path of the Sun through the zodiac). For example, an 'opposition' aspect is 180 degrees while a 'square' aspect iis ninety degrees. According to the late John Addey, two prime-number aspects often ignored by astrologers had an expecial connectiion with the idea of 'creativity'. Deriving from the numbers five and seven, they are the Quintile and Septile aspects. The quintile was invented (or discovered) by Kepler, while the septile has only been used in fairly modern times. The quintile (72 º) and bi-quintile (144 º) aspects are here shown, as together make up the 'fifth harmonic. John Addey also proposed how the orbs of these small or 'minor' aspects should be determined: they should have orbs of 12/nº where n is the 'harmonic number.' For quintiles the number is five, as gives an orb of ±2º.20'. Likewise the family of 'septiles' are here shown, with a 12/7 orb as comes to ±1 º 43'. One would expect just over two quintiles per chart, and likewise for the septiles.” http://www.astrology-research.net/researchlibrary/eureka/ii.htm http://www.aquariuspapers.com/astrology/2007/01/quintile_tredec.html http://www.mooncatsastrology.com/astro2/quintiles.htm http://cafeastrology.com/natal/quintile_biquintile.html http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13644&highlight=quintiles http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5485&highlight=quintiles for more info on these http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/212594.html ------------------ I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.”
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SaggiMC Knowflake Posts: 2210 From: UK Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 10, 2012 04:04 AM
quote: Originally posted by RedScorp: How about the trine?
here the energies blend and get along much better than hard aspects. The soul has learnt how to work hard (saturn) with duties and responsibilities with the venusian aspects of love, pleasure, socialising, love romance and finances. So working hard gives pleasure (venus)that is much more enjoyable and causes no tension like the hard aspects have. quote: Originally posted by Adam: What have you got on Venus conjunct Saturn
you could just read saturn square venus. Basically in romance and finances they suggest much caution and poss lack of confidence, due to childhood circumstances. ------------------ I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.” IP: Logged |
Nyah Knowflake Posts: 55 From: Europe Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 10, 2012 04:51 AM
Hi! I was intrigued by that link to your other thread with the houses and everything. About that 1st house Saturn; "never get fat or drunk because of pride"! wow, someone I know have that and he doesn't like when people get high/drunk or whatever - could that be about pride? interesting! And then it says: "If Saturn is conjunct the Ascendant the birth could have been difficult one: the soul was reluctant to come in" - I don't have his exact birth time but it's +-3 hours and within that time span is a possible conjunction - and he had a difficult birth. Why would the soul be reluctant to come in? it's too late to have second thoughts when your in the womb already but jokes aside, it's a bit mind-boggling... Oh, I have Sun opposition Saturn, any input on that? ------------------ Ascendant: Gemini Sun: Pisces Moon: Capricorn Mercury: Pisces Venus: Capricorn Mars: Aquarius IP: Logged |
Dreaming111 Knowflake Posts: 89 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted March 10, 2012 01:21 PM
Thanks for the list.What does Saturn quintile venus, saturn semisextile neptune, saturn trine true node, saturn quinux chiron, saturn trine vertex and ceres denote? IP: Logged |
Moonfish Knowflake Posts: 1123 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 10, 2012 01:32 PM
quote: Originally posted by SaggiMC: they are such a minor aspect, I don't use them, but they are supposed to show 'hidden talent' http://cafeastrology.com/natal/quintile_biquintile.html Quintiles “Aspects are angles made by planets, with respect to the centre of the Earth. They are measured along the ecliptic (path of the Sun through the zodiac). For example, an 'opposition' aspect is 180 degrees while a 'square' aspect iis ninety degrees. According to the late John Addey, two prime-number aspects often ignored by astrologers had an expecial connectiion with the idea of 'creativity'. Deriving from the numbers five and seven, they are the Quintile and Septile aspects. The quintile was invented (or discovered) by Kepler, while the septile has only been used in fairly modern times. The quintile (72 º) and bi-quintile (144 º) aspects are here shown, as together make up the 'fifth harmonic. John Addey also proposed how the orbs of these small or 'minor' aspects should be determined: they should have orbs of 12/nº where n is the 'harmonic number.' For quintiles the number is five, as gives an orb of ±2º.20'. Likewise the family of 'septiles' are here shown, with a 12/7 orb as comes to ±1 º 43'. One would expect just over two quintiles per chart, and likewise for the septiles.” http://www.astrology-research.net/researchlibrary/eureka/ii.htm http://www.aquariuspapers.com/astrology/2007/01/quintile_tredec.html http://www.mooncatsastrology.com/astro2/quintiles.htm http://cafeastrology.com/natal/quintile_biquintile.html http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13644&highlight=quintiles http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5485&highlight=quintiles for more info on these http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/212594.html
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Capriquarius Knowflake Posts: 1435 From: So. Cal Registered: Dec 2010
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posted March 10, 2012 01:42 PM
quote: Originally posted by Nyah: "never get fat or drunk because of pride"! wow, someone I know have that and he doesn't like when people get high/drunk or whatever - could that be about pride? interesting!
I guess what some (I'll refrain from using the adjective I have in mind) call "pride," others deem self-respect.
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Heartless Knowflake Posts: 136 From: Pluto/Lilith/Virgo@H12 Registered: May 2011
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posted March 10, 2012 01:54 PM
short and sweet is good! pray tell, Saturn...? opposite Neptune trine Pluto i have also got: sextile Sun, conjunction Mars, SemiSquare Merc (read square?), SesquiQuadrate AS.
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Taineberry Knowflake Posts: 463 From: Registered: Jun 2011
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posted March 10, 2012 02:12 PM
Okaaay! So I have Saturn square Venus, Mercury, Moon and Neptune. All angular - 1st, 7th & 10th. All fixed signs in a T-square and orbs are tight.Hence, I am Moody, Lack Confidence due to my Hideous Childhood, No Good at Communication, Unloved, Uncherished, Fearful of the Unknown $ Depressive?????? HeHe! Sorry, but not true. IP: Logged |
Linda Jones Knowflake Posts: 137 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 10, 2012 02:36 PM
What about Saturn opposite Mars?Thanks. IP: Logged |
SaggiMC Knowflake Posts: 2210 From: UK Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 10, 2012 03:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by Dreaming111: Thanks for the list.What does Saturn quintile venus, saturn semisextile neptune, saturn trine true node, saturn quinux chiron, saturn trine vertex and ceres denote?
I just posted some links for this. Personally i don't use semi sextile or quintiles. I'm no expert on vertex or ceres BUT I can give you some links for research http://neptunecafe.homestead.com/Ceres.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceres_(dwarf_planet http://www.solarviews.com/eng/ceres.htm http://en.mimi.hu/astrology/ceres.html http://www.librarising.com/astrology/tables/ceres.html http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12612&highlight=ceres http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8212&highlight=ceres Vertex "Those who use the Vertex generally feel it is a point of karmic or fated connection. Some consider it a point of "wish fulfillment". It is perhaps most widely used in synastry. The Vertex is said to be activated at major turning points in our lives, most notably when we meet a significant other or end a significant relationship, and some believe it is triggered when there is a birth or death" http://www.cafeastrology.com/vertex.html http://www.falconastrology.com/vertex.htm
------------------ In Astrology 2.0 forum, beginners learning astrology http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/212463.html in Astrology 2.0 forum, What’s next for learning (intermediate) http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/212464.html In Astrology 2.0 what’s next for learning (advanced) http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/212465.html I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.” IP: Logged |
SaggiMC Knowflake Posts: 2210 From: UK Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 10, 2012 03:30 PM
quote: Originally posted by Nyah: Hi! I was intrigued by that link to your other thread with the houses and everything. About that 1st house Saturn; "never get fat or drunk because of pride"! wow, someone I know have that and he doesn't like when people get high/drunk or whatever - could that be about pride? interesting! And then it says: "If Saturn is conjunct the Ascendant the birth could have been difficult one: the soul was reluctant to come in" - I don't have his exact birth time but it's +-3 hours and within that time span is a possible conjunction - and he had a difficult birth. Why would the soul be reluctant to come in? it's too late to have second thoughts when your in the womb already but jokes aside, it's a bit mind-boggling... Oh, I have Sun opposition Saturn, any input on that?
I have just done another thread that may cover these matters. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/212615.html
------------------ In Astrology 2.0 forum, beginners learning astrology http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/212463.html in Astrology 2.0 forum, What’s next for learning (intermediate) http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/212464.html In Astrology 2.0 what’s next for learning (advanced) http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/212465.html I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.” IP: Logged |
SaggiMC Knowflake Posts: 2210 From: UK Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 10, 2012 03:32 PM
quote: Originally posted by Taineberry: Okaaay! So I have Saturn square Venus, Mercury, Moon and Neptune. All angular - 1st, 7th & 10th. All fixed signs in a T-square and orbs are tight.Hence, I am Moody, Lack Confidence due to my Hideous Childhood, No Good at Communication, Unloved, Uncherished, Fearful of the Unknown $ Depressive?????? HeHe! Sorry, but not true.
these aspects are a starting point and *Obviously* the WHOLE chart needs to be taken into account.. If you want to post your chart, I would love to see it in PR forum IP: Logged |
Taineberry Knowflake Posts: 463 From: Registered: Jun 2011
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posted March 10, 2012 03:39 PM
Hey... I am tempted. But, my chart is soooooo yuck. Be kind if I do, ok?IP: Logged |
laurenbabiiee7 Knowflake Posts: 93 From: miami baby Registered: Aug 2011
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posted March 11, 2012 05:55 AM
what about saturn sextile asc?? and saturn in 11 house?? only places ive got saturn thank god considering im cappy sun IP: Logged |
SaggiMC Knowflake Posts: 2210 From: UK Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 11, 2012 12:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by laurenbabiiee7: what about saturn sextile asc?? and saturn in 11 house?? only places ive got saturn thank god considering im cappy sun
Houses: angular houses 1/7 4/10 the energies of planets placed here are obvious cos it's your 'shop window' visible for everyone to see. Next the succeedent houses 2/8 & 5/11 the energies in these houses are not in shop window the are in the shop, but stood behind the counter, ready to come out when needed. Lastly, cadent houses 6/12 & 3/9 these houses/planets are not in shop window or stood behind the counter, they are in the back storeroom and only come out when 'triggered' or an emergency and much harder to recognise and access...The houses are like the backdrop of a stage, the setting if you like, the planets are like actors and the aspects are how the planets behave in that settings/stage....So remember you may find it harder to identify with planets and Saturn in this case in Cadent houses…. "Saturn’s" influence seems to be more obvious in the houses than in the signs can rule the life with an iron rod, although invisible, by undermining the sense of ¬self worth and making it difficult for the individual to permit any close emotional contacts. Saturn's sign indicates what you find uncomfortable and must learn to manage. Where and how you feel a lack of confidence -- the house position of Saturn defines where you need to establish your skills, an issue you worry about and wish you could depend on ! Lovely anecdote about Saturn from member mahaira on astrologyweekly.com, quote: There's an interesting thing I read somewhere, which I would never take as a rule as it oversimplifies matters - we can guess where someone's Saturn is placed, broadly speaking, by asking him/her "What do you want (or did want) but don't have?"
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