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Betty Boop
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posted March 11, 2012 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 11, 2012 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll edit that ^ after you see it.

It sucks that we don't have a PM function..

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posted March 11, 2012 10:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It also sucks that there's no ignore function.

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posted March 11, 2012 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That to! Although that sucked more for me about 2 yrs ago... when I was having problems with someone lol
Now I don't actually care.

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posted March 11, 2012 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Betty Boop
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posted March 12, 2012 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was just saying - everyone does it - and there is nothing wrong with that.
I thought your comment - "Not only is honesty a clear trait"... meant that honesty is your personality trait.. or something along those lines... like 'you are always honest'.

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All I'm doing is addressing an allegation that a certain Sun sign or Moon sign denotes a liar.

This is kind of true.... But some placements would make it easier.. I mean they might be better at it. That does not mean they would choose to do it.

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posted March 12, 2012 12:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 12, 2012 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You misunderstood me. The quest for honesty is always there. I never said that I am always honest. I am far from being perfect and fall short of all standards of perfection. Claiming perfection would be explicitly saying that I'm a Supreme Being, which I am not. Having said that, I always do strive for honesty.

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posted March 12, 2012 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok! I understand now. I do believe in God but I'm not all for the many different rules involved in Christianity.
I'm very utilitarian about lying.. It's all about the consequences for me.

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posted March 12, 2012 02:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uh I'm sorry.
I simply wanted to learn about the aspects a person would have that would cause them to lie. In the end they were born into it so I mean how much can we blame them for it?

So let's not attack each other or offend one another.

I still believe that though lying gets you so far, honesty gets you AND EVERYONE else that you love farther. You may or may not choose to believe that but it's an observation I've made in my own life. I've had people close to me lie and the small lies did snow ball into their reputation being brandished as ..."fake" "don't ever believe what he/she said, he/ she never utters the truth." And fact is no one lies constantly, but they certainly get labeled that way.

Lying to strangers about personal info or for your safety makes a hell of a lot of sense to me. Other than that either one avoids the topic or tells the truth. When I don't want ot anser a question I general switch topics; I gues for me that is better than lying.

And again living with integrity is important to everyone no matter who you are. Symapthy, empathy are all tied into honesty. If someone were to genuinely be upset about something quite valid, I don't think I would feel as giving of my symathy, empathy if that same person had annoyed me with their petty lies. I just wouldn't feel like giving my time to someone that acts cowardly and selfish.

Yes, I think that liars tend to be cowardly because they refuse to face the truth and the consequences of their actions. It seems they want to squirm out of situations without the responsibilities of their actions. They seem selfish to me because they don't really care that they are puttingthe blinds over your eyes. They don't mind if you make decisions based on their lies. All they want is to ensure that they are in the safe zone.

Again, I would like to say, I can lie like a pro if I choose to. I have even, as a prank, but sometimes I'm amazed at my ability to lie so well and pull it off. I just enjoy being honest more. I feel stronger. I guess because I can handle the consequences of my actions. If I don't wanto t go out with someone. I'll tell them that I'm just not in the mood for it or that I'm blah and just can't get myself to go. As another person I would hope that person realizes that he/she goes to these things as well.

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posted March 12, 2012 02:03 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Oh boy you must really want to strangle them telemarketers. They lie to lonely old people to sell them printer toners and crap.

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posted March 12, 2012 02:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dreaming -

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"don't ever believe what he/she said, he/ she never utters the truth."

Well obviously - that happens if they do it frequently or more often than the average person & if they are not the best psychologist (hence, lying poorly). Otherwise every single person would gain a reputation as a 'liar' - which doesn't happen.

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I just enjoy being honest more. I feel stronger.

I just enjoy using my discretion and doing whatever I think is BEST depending on the context.. whatever would have the best outcome - as far as I can tell.

Capriquarius -

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^ Oh boy you must really want to strangle them telemarketers. They lie to lonely old people to sell them printer toners and crap.

LMAO

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Betty Boop
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posted March 12, 2012 02:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dreaming - Would you enjoy being honest in the situation I mentioned above?
If you are baby-sitting a kid.. and the kid asks you where his mum is - and you know she is having an affair with his dad's best friend.... Would you enjoy telling the kid that, just because it is honest?

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posted March 12, 2012 03:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You could say, "she's out. she'll be back. go color." lol.....ur not lying u see.

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posted March 12, 2012 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's a notorious liar I know:

Sun Aries 2.55
Moon Aquarius 26.14
Mercury Aries 18.49
Venus Aquarius 23.37
Mars Capricorn 7.05
Jupiter Sagittarius 6.27 R
Saturn Taurus 19.24
Uranus Libra 11.54 R
Neptune Sagittarius 2.59 R
Pluto Virgo 28.15 R
Lilith Virgo 22.28
Asc node Aquarius 23.06

Can anyone spot the "lying" aspect(s)?

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posted March 12, 2012 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
^ Oh boy you must really want to strangle them telemarketers. They lie to lonely old people to sell them printer toners and crap.

LOL!

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Dreaming111
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posted March 12, 2012 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How do I search on this site?
I don't see the search section here.

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Betty Boop
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posted March 12, 2012 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Faith - I don't know about liar aspects.. but the first thing that hit me was this person lacks water - hence they may be a particularly bad liar.. since they cannot intuit other people's emotions very well. Probably not the best psychologist.
I'm not surprised they became notorious.

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posted March 12, 2012 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe that person became notorious because he/ she got caught....most sly liars don't get caught? lol

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