posted March 11, 2012 06:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Linda Jones:
Moonfish,

"Who's the one that is gentle and compassionate?"

The one whose planet is contacting the chiron, I think. Altho' in my case this compassion and gentleness is both ways, even though my chiron is involved w/ his moon and his Neptune.

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posted March 12, 2012 03:32 PM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
No, I don`t think so. But everything has to be seen in context.

What could be more loving than someone who treats your most vulnerable part with gentleness, compassion and love?

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could be someone who causes MORE chiron wounds...

posted March 12, 2012 03:37 PM              

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Hi SaggiMC, I'm returning to LL after a bit of a break. You've provided an interesting read on chiron. Here again I'd like to share my own experience.

In my natal I have chiron square Sun (exact), but I've never had to struggle w/ spirituality. Quite the contrary, actually. With a 1st house moon, my relationship w/ my Mom was always very close, and, growing up I was very positively affected by the purity of her spiritual beliefs, discipline, and practice in day-to-day life. We would have conversations about spirituality, God, and she would answer my questions patiently and encouraged me to explore on my own also. I remember being so moved by the idea of a kind, loving, God that, from the age of approx. 4 years onward (I can't remember prior to 4), I would cry every day during daily evening prayers (which we performed together as a family). My Mom would always soothe me. I think I was about 5 or 6, when I had my first dream of God. Such dreams along with other mystic experiences of divine bliss and revelations (while awake) have continued and are still ongoing.

The point I'm trying to make is, that for me, spirituality and a spiritually disciplined way of life is something that has always been very natural. Never had to struggle for it. In fact, I felt a strong pull towards it from a very young age and was very supported and guided by my Mother.

This contradicts your information on Sun square chiron.

Please let me know what you think.

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posted March 12, 2012 03:49 PM            

I tried to type this story out but I am still so disgusted by the whole thing, so mad at myself for getting tricked in the first place...

posted March 13, 2012 05:01 AM            

In the most important relationship of my life, I have my Venus exactly conjunct his Chiron and my own Chiron opposes his Venus/Uranus conjunction, again exactly. Trines his mercury 0*. What some say about the transparency and vulnerability describes our relationship quite well. And did I mention DEEP, transforming, unconditional, painful and frightening love. He is the only person on this planet that has seen my best and my absolute worst.

We first met in high school and felt that instant soul connection. Talking and sharing stories as though we have always been a part of each other. I was extremely shy, I felt unworthy, and he was the first boy to to really approach me. THEN we each took turns sabotaging (as someone said previously) our relationship. I was the first to go. He tried to stop me, yet I didn't. And if it were me, to my shame, I know I would have never went back for him. Since he has came back into my life, we talk almost daily, it feels like we could never be able to truly let go. That being said, we are still not together, and he is with someone else right now. I would wait for him forever, I intend to, and I truly mean that from the bottom of my heart. I just fear that by the time we both come around with the courage to face ourselves, we will be broken beyond any healing. I would give up everything for just that chance. As far as I am concerned, all is forgiven but I am not sure about him

My Chiron squares my NN 2*, my Draco Chiron is exact on my moon. His however aspects most of his planets. Its retrograde, trines his sun, and is also parallel his sun. When we met, it was to the second conjunct my Venus. My own Venus was progressed and conjunct my Chiron at that time. His Chiron went direct a few months after we became intimate. I do not know what any of that means.

In our composite, the Chiron of course turns to square Venus exactly. Sadly the sun is also squared tightly, as well as the whole Pisces stellium. In the division, Chiron also squares the sun, Venus and mars stellium though much more loosely, Venus being the closest.

In another Chiron involved relationship, with a Scorpio, his Chiron was exactly solstice my moon. Our connection was instant (but perhaps also because of Eros/Psyche exact in Scorpio) and with a lot of potential. Yet I could not handle his possessiveness and him checking up on me, and we were only friends getting to know each other. I asked him multiple times to not ask me "what I'm up to" as often, we had much more interesting things to talk about, he did not so I am distancing myself away from him. The theory proves true in this case I suppose.

My last Chiron relationship is very positive so far. I "recognized" her when I met her and she HAS become my best friend almost instantly. She was calling me by my childhood nickname. And after wrecking my brain trying to figure out how I know her, I accepted the fact that she is an angel LOL. She feels exactly that way about me as well. Her Chiron-Venus exact conjunction is solstice my moon 0*. Her mercury, is also near by conjunct my Chiron 2*. I do not imagine us growing apart, but even if we do, I could never forget her.

In all these examples, the ASC's were either conjunct or opposed mine tightly.

I truly believe everything will be okay. I am, after all, following my heart

I pray closure and healing will come to everyone here who was deeply hurt after opening themselves up, and trusting in the kindness of another. And I hope those that have hurt and left a trail of someone else's blood behind them gain awareness of how deeply their actions impacted someone they cared about.

posted March 13, 2012 07:42 AM            

And this prayer got me choked up:

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I pray closure and healing will come to everyone here who was deeply hurt after opening themselves up, and trusting in the kindness of another. And I hope those that have hurt and left a trail of someone else's blood behind them gain awareness of how deeply their actions impacted someone they cared about.

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posted March 14, 2012 10:09 AM            

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Originally posted by lilithpluto:
OooooooOooo!! Sand's Sun conjunct my Chiron Exact!!!!

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posted March 14, 2012 11:49 AM            

Her Chiron aspects six of my planets.

Each by Orb of 3 degrees or less.

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posted March 14, 2012 09:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I really think that our Chiron placement is key key key in relationships that have a very strange evolution. I have seen it so many times that I think it may be true. They get close really, really fast. You feel as if you found your best friend. Them, they break apart from a misunderstanding which seems like it should be able to be resolved. Then, they fall off the face of the earth. Watch your Chiron and other peoples and please come back and comment.

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posted March 14, 2012 09:29 PM            

At first, he thought I was a lost soul, he thought he would "make me"...
Like I would be better for knowing him.

Then "his" family saw me as his last chance at love and happiness.
That if it didnt work out,it would destroy him.. They often told me.. But I thought it was very strange..

Later on, he wanted ME to save him from his problems, like if I was a knight and shinning armor.. I use to tell him that... Im not your knight in shinning armor, arent you suppose to me mine!

Then once I reached my limit.. I walked away, he blamed me for all his problems, saying its because of ME, that he gets into trouble and needs to be saving... He's blamed me for all his actions.. My only response is your a grown man, and responsible for your own actions..
He never takes any irresponsibility and always blames everyone else for his problems..
But truth be told, he has brought them all on him self to the point where he is unhelpable. His only choice now, is to accept and move forward.
BUT he's stick with no-one will help me...

so sad..

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posted March 15, 2012 03:00 PM            

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I have my name asteroid conjunct Chiron. That point in the chart is very, very pivotal. I am going through another painful Chiron situation with the possible loss of a Chiron relationship. His Jupiter conj my Chiron. I have 2 friends left who are Chiron friendships.One is a Mars/Chiron.I can't remember what the other is. Both are females. I have lost about 8 Chiron relationships since I began Astrology lol

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Have you been the chiron and they the planet person in each of these relationships?

If so then, from what I'm understanding about chiron, they come to you for healing. And then they up and leave causing searing pain to you. The injustice of this seriously p****s me off.

I mean, from a non astrological point of view, can you rationally see the selfishness of this behavior?

Unless you have Mars in Cancer or Pisces, you could try inwardly giving the one finger salute to them

Also, for the future if a planet person comes to your chiron, just keep reminding yourself that they're wounded and wounded people almost always wound others, sometimes without even realizing. With this in mind, perhaps you'll be able to distance yourself mentally and emotionally from them.

I'm no astrology expert (in fact far from it), but I do get a sense about people's energies. My sense about yours is that you're like a doe--very gentle, beautiful, elegant, and graceful in your nature but also skittish, like a doe ... that takes flight at the first hint of danger. Like there's almost an expectation in you that people are going to hurt you. If so, I would work on clearing out this expectation from your beliefs, because we tend to attract not what we want but what our beliefs are.

There's isn't much you can do about others' selfishness but you can take steps inwardly (within you) to protect yourself. The best and most permanent form of protection is standing porter at the gate of our own mind (thoughts).

In my opinion, most of human suffering springs from what people do to each other, how they treat each other.

To have to go through pain 8 times over with persons who are not sufficiently 'awakened' is w-a-y too much pain for one person to have to handle.

posted March 15, 2012 03:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Linda Jones:
Ami Anne,

Have you been the chiron and they the planet person in each of these relationships?

If so then, from what I'm understanding about chiron, they come to you for healing. And then they up and leave causing searing pain to you. The injustice of this seriously p****s me off.

I mean, from a non astrological point of view, can you rationally see the selfishness of this behavior?

Unless you have Mars in Cancer or Pisces, you could try inwardly giving the one finger salute to them

Also, for the future if a planet person comes to your chiron, just keep reminding yourself that they're wounded and wounded people almost always wound others, sometimes without even realizing. With this in mind, perhaps you'll be able to distance yourself mentally and emotionally from them.

I'm no astrology expert (in fact far from it), but I do get a sense about people's energies. My sense about yours is that you're like a doe--very gentle, beautiful, elegant, and graceful in your nature but also skittish, like a doe ... that takes flight at the first hint of danger. Like there's almost an expectation in you that people are going to hurt you. If so, I would work on clearing out this expectation from your beliefs, because we tend to attract not what we want but what our beliefs are.

There's isn't much you can do about others' selfishness but you can take steps inwardly (within you) to protect yourself. The best and most permanent form of protection is standing porter at the gate of our own mind (thoughts).

In my opinion, most of human suffering springs from what people do to each other, how they treat each other.

To have to go through pain 8 times over with persons who are not sufficiently 'awakened' is w-a-y too much pain for one person to have to handle.

Sorry, I know you want astrological input and I don't have any. But I wish that I could somehow stop this sort of injustice. This is my 9th hse Jupiter talking. My pet peeve is people hurting each other and treating each other badly.

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That is so sweet of you Linda! That touches me

I have been on both sides of it--Chiron and planet. However, I think it is the nature of this kind of relationship as it has happened so many times and just happened again lol

The relationship always follows the same pattern of getting close really fast and a misunderstanding which should be able to be resolved does not seem able to be. Then, you are over. It has always been with platonic male friends and g/fs.

I think it is the nature of Chiron hitting personal planets. For my part,I can usually talk through issues as I am just open that way.Many people cannot. It seems that one fight can end it. I don't know about that but I think it is the nature of Chiron to be a strange kind of wild card.

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posted March 16, 2012 02:07 PM            

Chiron is supposed to bring about strong feelings of connectedness, then strange reversals, like you describe.

posted March 16, 2012 02:11 PM            

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Originally posted by ShyVirgo1979:
Once again interesting topic does it hafta b close orbs or can it b just in the same sign? I suppose I'm not surprised to learn that my chiron (in taurus) is conjunct my ex husband's (of 8 yrs) sun, mercury, venus, and mars. That was ONE stubborn taurus! Lol idk the orbs I haven't really studied his natal.

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Wow Vi
Before you panic, lets look at orbs
Do you know how to figure orbs. It is very simple. You subtract the degrees. If My Sun is 28 Gem and my merc is 21 Gem, the orb would be 7 degrees. Do that for each aspect and I will look. IF you have this kind of a Chiron thing, I am sure it is not news to you lol

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posted March 16, 2012 02:17 PM            

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Originally posted by ShyVirgo1979:
Once again interesting topic does it hafta b close orbs or can it b just in the same sign? I suppose I'm not surprised to learn that my chiron (in taurus) is conjunct my ex husband's (of 8 yrs) sun, mercury, venus, and mars. That was ONE stubborn taurus! Lol idk the orbs I haven't really studied his natal.

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Ok I see it was an ex husband. WOW--about that much Chiron. Did you get close really fast and then one little thing drove you apart and you could never get back--something like that?

He would have come to you for healing as the planet person seems to go to the Chiron person for healing. I would not want a romantic relationship with much Chiron. My friendships seem to have it until they break apart

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