posted March 12, 2012 11:08 PM            

Funny thing is, I always catch myself talking about finding balance, finding that fine line, entering the grey zone despite having zero/zilch/nada Libra in my chart. Hmm..

posted March 13, 2012 02:05 PM              

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Originally posted by carl:
Saturn is in the 10th. I have no planets in the 7th, no planets in the sign of Libra.

Funny thing is, I always catch myself talking about finding balance, finding that fine line, entering the grey zone despite having zero/zilch/nada Libra in my chart. Hmm..

But anyway, I tend to make friends with older people. I thought Cap = seeking out serious matters and older people sometimes tend to be more serious?

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Is it within 5' of 11th house cusp? do you have cappi rising?

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posted March 13, 2012 02:07 PM              

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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
Interesting.. I have saturn in the 10th, and I like you am antisocial/shy. I'm mostly Libra energy. I think it could very well be your capricorn. Or it could be aspects to the moon or the sign of the 7th, 11th might have something to do with it.

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Saturn's sign indicates what you find uncomfortable and must learn to manage.
Where and how you feel a lack of confidence -- the house position of Saturn defines where
you need to establish your skills, an issue you worry about and wish you could depend on !

Lovely anecdote about Saturn from member mahaira on astrologyweekly.com,

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There's an interesting thing I read somewhere, which I would never take as a rule as it oversimplifies matters - we can guess where someone's Saturn is placed, broadly speaking, by asking him/her "What do you want (or did want) but don't have?"

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Takes 28 years to go around zodiac. Stays in each sign of approx 2.1/2 yrs
Keywords: Saturn = Structure, duty, limitation, restriction.

When Saturn and Uranus fall in the same sign or house we get caught in a cleft stick, wanting to make changes but fearing to let go of the old.

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posted March 13, 2012 04:33 PM            

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Usually people who have a natal aspect with Venus and Saturn usually marry someone considerable senior to their age.

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I have Venus trine Saturn.

And I'm a Cap sun.

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posted March 14, 2012 12:22 AM            

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Originally posted by SaggiMC:
Takes 28 years to go around zodiac. Stays in each sign of approx 2.1/2 yrs
Keywords: Saturn = Structure, duty, limitation, restriction.

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posted March 14, 2012 04:56 AM            

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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
Interesting.. I have saturn in the 10th, and I like you am antisocial/shy. I'm mostly Libra energy. I think it could very well be your capricorn. Or it could be aspects to the moon or the sign of the 7th, 11th might have something to do with it.

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I have Saturn at the very end of the 9th (end of Gemini)...
I have some of these qualities as well... but I always thought it was the Uranus...
Uranus in the 1st, Venus in Aquarius...

posted March 14, 2012 09:20 AM              

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
I have Saturn in the 11th and it does touch my Venus, and I too, have older friends. I like that I can learn from them.

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I have saturn here AND conj MC
Saturn in the 11th house
Hard to obtain goals and objectives but they can be attained if the person will be patient and willing to work. Have to earn everything with this position of Saturn. If it is done the rewards are great, and life gets better as it advances.Many acquaintances, but few intimates. An unrecognised fear of the demands made due to friendship. Attracted to older people. Saturn may delay but does not deny objectives.You will have a strong sense of responsibility towards friendships, groups and team work. You will seek to know important people in order to advance your status and self ¬confidence by taking notice of their wise advise. You will be cautious concerning your own principles. Social standing very important.
These people either keep themselves to themselves or overcome their shyness by joining societies in which social life is centred around a purpose, sometimes political. Friends are often older and more experienced.

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Saturn conjunct Midheaven
You are likely to be hardworking and responsible in your chosen career, as well as having fairly high ambitions. You will certainly want to achieve a certain amount of financial security, and will be prepared to work hard at building the tangibles into your life. These may well manifest more through the partner you choose than through your own individual efforts, though both are highly possible. This placement of Saturn can often coincide with setbacks early in life, a certain degree of shyness, a lack of confidence, a strict parent, perhaps a lack of emotional support or demonstrations of warmth. Fortunately this usually fades with maturity and experience, to be replaced with a degree of authority and confidence. Once on the right path, you will gain the respect of others and probably rise to a position of authority and responsibility.
Subconsciously you may want to be looked up to as an authority figure, and may choose the well established roles through which to express your career skills, with traditional values high on your list of priorities. A Government position could well have some appeal, or some other position that offers a degree of authority. There can often be a degree of strictness associated with a parent in the early years with this placement, it can reflect also that the father figure may have held a fairly responsible role in his life, perhaps a public figure, or someone who held a fair degree of responsibility. So too, this can suggest a father who may have been very responsible with regard to his public standing and his position in the community, but found little time for demonstrations of overt warmth and caring on the more personal level. http://rugdeeaustralia.tripod.com/id18.html

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Midheaven/Saturn
There will be far less movement with this conjunction, as it is less about awareness of change and more about the limitations we find in the physical environment. there is a focus on the structure of one's own personality rather than on things outside the self. There is a tendency to be self critical, sometimes leading to an actual loss of ego consciousness. Once again, the need for sufficient practice in thinking is apparent; clear thought processes win negate the tendency toward depression and mental disorder. Change may be inhibited, self examination and learning from experience will emerge. http://www.skyviewzone.com/articles/asrticle3sc.htm

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posted March 14, 2012 09:30 AM              

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Originally posted by appleberry:
I have Saturn at the very end of the 9th (end of Gemini)...
I have some of these qualities as well... but I always thought it was the Uranus...
Uranus in the 1st, Venus in Aquarius...

I read somewhere that Uranus conjunct DC makes you look for older partners... so maybe there is some kind of connection with Uranus and this?

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hmmmm I have uranus conj Desc in 7th and don't think this is valid. Saturn in 7th or cappi ruling --- yes. My current partner is 10years younger

Uranus in lst House – Angular house
You will have a strong drive for personal freedom and will seek out unusual friends and activities. Individuality very strong Unusual in some way. often possessing scientific and intuitive talents. Personal behaviour unpredictable. Good organiser and leadership qualities. Occasionally act the opposite of what is expected of you. Dissatisfied with appearance in some way (quite common hippy type, earring through noses, bright coloured pink or red hair etc.) Can dress provocatively – aiming to shock. Very original theories and methods of working.
Erratic and sudden impulses not always understood, not only by others but by themselves. Not a conformist and apt to be too direct and blunt with opinions. Must surrender the willfulness inherent in this position.

If Saturn is within 5' of house cusp it is said to be more effective in the next house along going anti clockwsie...

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“Ascendant at 15’ Libra and Jupiter 13’ Libra. That would place Jupiter in the 12th house, right? But many thoughtful astrologers would read this as Jupiter being conjunction with Ascendant, and end up reading it as bringing its action to bear in the first house, rather than in the 12th.
This same idea would apply for each and every house cusp. If the planet is IN THE SAME SIGN as the sign on the next house cusp, and close enough to be CONJUNCT WITH that next house cusp, the action of the planet will be directed into oncoming house” http://www.astrology-numerology.com/inhouses.html http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14887 http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=125412&postcount=4
Ptolemy says the influence of the house begins to be felt 5° before the actual cusp. http://www.astrologycom.com/houses.html

“Astrologers have seen a body influencing the house it is about to enter, time and time again. All theorizing aside, the planet casting its shadow ahead works. I can speak from personal experience, as well as reading ancient texts. If you discover this as true, then the next question may be, "Just how close must a body be to a cusp before it begins to be felt in the neighboring house?"
I've seen some authors say 3 degrees. I've seen some that give 5 degrees. I have seen some that even give 8 degrees. And there may be other variations.” http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/90c9f417-5086-4ff0-b31f-c904fe99baca

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posted March 14, 2012 03:57 PM            

Though I always chalked it up to being my parents "accident" baby. They were both in their mid-late 40s when I was born. My 3 older brothers were 7, 13 and 15 years older than me.... all my cousins and aunts/uncles were older than me. My first two bosses were retired 65+ men who were both playboy bachelor types. In the city, I always befriended the older characters and heard the craziest stories. I also get really upset when I see elderly people dining alone or struggling with their health or stuff - I dunno why but I get so sad seeing that.

It's weird b/c little kids are drawn to me a lot too... not sure why b/c I wasn't a "kid person" until about 5 years ago. Random toddlers will run up to me or reach for no reason! I wish a man MY AGE had half the interest of these kids, lol.

I have Saturn in the 7th?

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interesting that this attraction to older people makes us look into personal history/myth for answers. i was an accident, too, in that i was unwanted by my mother. i think of my 29 leo sun and 29 gemini uranus as indicators of abandonment--aquarius is the mc and masculine sun in the 4th conj saturn. then there is saturn as planet of oriental appearance. serious approach to life

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I have sun square uranus and it doesn't indicate being abandoned at all, but outers aspecting sun ( or inners) would modify how your sun would express.

Sun conj saturn suggests a lack of rapport with father and again making your sun (at times) express like cappi/saturnian.

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posted March 16, 2012 06:08 AM              

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interesting that this attraction to older people makes us look into personal history/myth for answers. i was an accident, too, in that i was unwanted by my mother. i think of my 29 leo sun and 29 gemini uranus as indicators of abandonment--aquarius is the mc and masculine sun in the 4th conj saturn. then there is saturn as planet of oriental appearance. serious approach to life

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Neptune in 4th House – angular house
Strong unconscious emotional ties with home and family. Confused family relationships and sometimes chaotic domestic environment. Often feel sorry for strangers, animals and offer ¬accommodation. Beachcombers. Sacrifices in the home (parents) Mystery concerning early life. Deception. Over idealise mothers perhaps disillusionment. Possibly put mother on a pedestal missing parent! doubts about roots! – Abandoned, adopted, or even left in a plastic bag. Very much eggshell area and therefore sensitive. Neptune the ‘great dissolver’ can literally dissolve connections to family