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Topic: Mars-Pluto and child abuse.
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whaaat Knowflake Posts: 136 From: Portland, MA,U.S Registered: Jun 2013
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posted December 13, 2013 05:11 AM
My father has Mars square Pluto, Pluto square ascendant, Mars opposition ascendant and I have Scorpio in the 4th so yeah...((aggressively represses all childhood memories)). Brother has Mars square Pluto and Mars square Saturn, he wasn't abusive to me, but he loathes children and I really hope he'll sit the parenting thing out if his attitude toward them endures.IP: Logged |
theunknown Knowflake Posts: 827 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted December 13, 2013 05:54 PM
Can y'all explain a little bit more on Mercury-pluto in terms of mental repression?I have it and all the websites just say I'm a good researchers >,< IP: Logged |
SerpeantKing Knowflake Posts: 169 From: Virginia Beach Registered: Apr 2011
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posted December 13, 2013 06:49 PM
I have Mars in Taurus opposing Saturn, south node, and Pluto in Scorpio. I experienced a healthy amount of mental and physical abuse as a child. In many cases I was beaten as if I was a grown man. It didn't bother me. What bothered me most was going to school and being outcasted by my peers. ------------------ Aries Sun Sagittarious Moon Scorpio Ascendant(2nd decan) Mercury in Aries Venus in Aries Mars in Taurus Jupiter in Aquarius Saturn in Scorpio Uranus in Sagittarious Neptune in Capricorn Pluto in Scorpio Chiron in Gemini North node in Taurus "Nature speaks for itself" IP: Logged |
hodad Knowflake Posts: 206 From: tiburon ca usa Registered: May 2009
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posted March 15, 2014 04:51 AM
Mars/Pluto can definitely be cruel.When I see it in a chart I know the person is definitely hard core. One person who comes to mind with this is Sean Penn.Supposedly he abused a lot of the women he was with,has a raging temper,beating up photographers,is out of control,can be a real ******* in general--- I would think a lot of soldiers and war criminals have this.IP: Logged |
Dancing Maenad Knowflake Posts: 401 From: The Harvest Registered: Mar 2014
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posted March 15, 2014 05:41 AM
quote: Originally posted by alaz7200: .. amount of physical punishment growing up (fairly, sometimes too much so)
NO amount of physical punishment is ever fair. IP: Logged |
PeterPan Knowflake Posts: 305 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted March 15, 2014 06:48 AM
I have Mars, mercury and ASC opposite pluto 1-2* I was never really abused in the strictest sense of the word but i have attracted allot of voilence and conflict, ive got into numerous physical figths with my stepfather, and he was always the initiator, he pushed me and started wresteling me when i was 16 and there was a knife laying on my bedside table. I'm glad i didn't do what was playing trough my head at the time. When i turned 17 i had sort of outgrown him and was way stronger than him, from that point on he barely speaks if i'm in the same room as him. IP: Logged |
Mystic_Cat Knowflake Posts: 331 From: Pluto and Jupiter Registered: Jan 2014
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posted March 15, 2014 07:55 AM
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Mystic_Cat Knowflake Posts: 331 From: Pluto and Jupiter Registered: Jan 2014
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posted March 15, 2014 07:57 AM
Scorpio ascendant 25' Scorpio Scorpio Pluto 27' Scorpio Scorpio Ixion 27' Scorpio Scorpio Jupiter 28' ScorpioSquare Mars-Regulus in Leo 9th house.
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Comatoes Knowflake Posts: 31 From: Registered: Jan 2014
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posted March 15, 2014 10:40 AM
Yes, you attract violence or it can work that you witness a lot of violence, maybe in your profession, in your family, in society etc. Mars/Pluto people are so much more aware of how dark and damaging humanity can be. Humans can be so ugly towards each other it's insane.I have the conjunction, and I feel like some people want to get extra intense with me or to probe for weakness, compete, argue with me, or use me like a punching bag when I haven't even done anything. I have not been physically abused yet (I don't know what the future holds). But I do have this feeling that people are more intense with me than necessary, like they want to dominate me or take my will away. I also have Mars sextile Saturn, which actually helps me keep people at bay. But this aspect has many disturbing themes. IP: Logged |
theunknown Knowflake Posts: 827 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted March 15, 2014 11:23 AM
I have the sextile and I also have sun, mercury square pluto. I was the target of my fathers anger. His moon Is supposed to be in my 4th and his mars and venus suppose to conjunct my sun, mercury, and saturn. I never understood how astrology explains how incompatible we were. But now I realize my pluto might square his mars. IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 4863 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted March 15, 2014 11:46 AM
I experienced lot of physical abuse until I was around 16. Family members used to gang up on me and beat the crap out of me. I fought back with everything I had, but there’s only so much you can do. I never made anyone aware of it either. Those experiences were very traumatic, affected me in lot of ways. Release it if you can.IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 8090 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted March 15, 2014 01:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by anonymidarkness: I experienced lot of physical abuse until I was around 16. Family members used to gang up on me and beat the crap out of me. I fought back with everything I had, but there’s only so much you can do. I never made anyone aware of it either. Those experiences were very traumatic, affected me in lot of ways. Release it if you can.
My friends did that to me at times. In fact I compare my life to that of a prize fighter without the titles or the rings.
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Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 290 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted March 15, 2014 02:49 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Lava Flower: I recently came across an article that is about astrology of tragic, horrific, unthinkable abuse and ultimate murder cases of these poor innocent little children I cried while reading this article. I have always wondered why my parents abused me and not my sister. Not that I wish they would have abused her, no, just curious because her and I are very much alike. We were both quiet, thoughtful, obedient, every parents' dream kids. Being young, I didn't think much about the way they treated us, I thought perhaps its because I was older and they expected a lot more from me. Now, I realize how unfair it was, and I do get bitter about it from time to time, yet after reading that, I now know how lucky I truly was. It was bad, but noting even close to what some children go through My God, how heartbreaking Those heartless, soulless, people , what a waste of creativity they are. I have Pluto in the 4th square Mars in the 7th 2*. My sister has Pluto in the 5th trine Mars in 9th 4*. One more thing I read in that article was that even during the transit of Mars negative aspect to Pluto, you have to beware of attracting violence!! For those of you who have this aspect in their natal, have you endured abuse? How has this aspect played out in your life in general? [/QUOTE I wonder if you have recurring Mars/Saturn/Uranus/Neptune/ Pluto cross aspects with your parents. Their Saturn sitting on top of your Asc/Sun/MC can have them treat you like an adult and expect a lot from you. Saturn sitting on top of Moon/Venus/Mars can block expressions of love or affection towards you. Pluto/Neptune/Uranus/Mars contacts with your Moon can create an antagonistic or uncomfortable atmosphere at home; Maybe they are too severe in their punishment of you (Pluto)? Too erratic(Uranus)? Too quick to get physical(Mars)? Or they just act like they couldn't care less for you (Neptune). My father and I have the most terrible relationship-in fact- it is nonexistent. I always used to wonder why that is and astrology managed to help me find some answers. His Saturn forms a conjunction to my Sun. He treated me much like an adult when I was a child. He instilled a lot of fear in me. His Uranus squares my Saturn. He kept on changing and shifting(Uranus) my reality(Saturn). He was often so moody and unpredictable that I didn't know how to approach him. His Uranus squares my Venus. I didn't enjoy(Venus) him being around as he was so inconsistent and hard to predict(Uranus). One minute , in public,he'd want us to behave like the father-son combination. But in private, we were faaaar from that. Sometimes I'd feel like he is more like a step father than a real father and , at some point, he even questioned that I was his child????(Uranus detachment). Even now we don't talk much as I have nothing to say to him and don't enjoy him being around. So look at the cross aspects between you and the abusive parent. I don't know what it is, but I believe there is a "contract" we sign with parents before we are born. This parent(or in some cases both) can have such a terrible planetary configuration with us that all we can do is watch the relationship between us and them unfold with painful anticipation. Perhaps we are to grow from it? Live on through it? But knowing this doesn't make the experience of it any less painful. I know. IP: Logged |
Dancing Maenad Knowflake Posts: 401 From: The Harvest Registered: Mar 2014
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posted March 16, 2014 01:29 PM
It f*cks you up for life. Damaged goods. That's how I feel most of the time. ------------------ ~the raving one dancing in the nude~ IP: Logged |
swampys Knowflake Posts: 762 From: St. Louis, Missouri, USA Registered: Feb 2013
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posted March 16, 2014 02:46 PM
Pluto in the 4th in Scorpio, and Mars in the 6th in Capricorn. Pluto sextile Mars.Terrible childhood and adolescence but oh well! IP: Logged |
ricardo_a Newflake Posts: 2 From: Registered: Mar 2014
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posted March 27, 2014 07:07 AM
Mars square Pluto here, Pluto 8 house in Libra, Mars 5 house in Cancer.No violence in my life, maybe because i have Mars 5 house in Cancer? IP: Logged |
12muddy Knowflake Posts: 1568 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted March 27, 2014 07:44 AM
I have mars oppose pluto. Yeah I did experience abuse growing up. Broken bones n damages to internal organs were the results. And sometimes I think that to a certain degree, it has kinda desensitized me. IP: Logged |
FruityLlama Knowflake Posts: 214 From: UK Registered: Sep 2013
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posted March 27, 2014 09:40 AM
My sister has a bi-quintile aspect. My sister was never treated badly or anything. Our mum can be pretty grumpy sometimes and say nasty stuff, but that's about it. Nothing physical. She's not as close to our mum as I am though, but that's because she takes everything in her stride and doesn't worry about stuff, so she never seems to open up as much I do at home. She's Libra rising with pluto in 3rd. Extremely easy going and not bothered by anything. I mean, that's what it seems like. She's much better at standing up for herself than I am too, so maybe that's how the bQ works? Also, I'm so sorry for all of you who have suffered child abuse. *virtual hugs* <3 IP: Logged |