posted March 18, 2012 01:08 PM            

Moon square Venus (Robert Pelletier)

The square from the Moon to Venus means that you are apprehensive about forming close emotional ties because you fear the responsibilities they bring. You are defensive in admitting your feelings for others, fearful that they will make demands on you if you do. Your deeply ingrained ties with the past were probably etched by your relationship with your parents. No doubt you were expected to show undying loyalty to them, to the complete exclusion of anyone you might choose. It is wrong for you to feel any guilt about trying to transfer your personal feelings, for your parents should not try to hold you to a total commitment to them. Your priorities are distorted, and a change of attitude is in order; otherwise, the danger is clear.

Your rebelliousness can introduce problems in your personal relationships. In an attempt to get away from the restrictions that you feel closing in on you, you may indulge in an affair that is less than desirable. You could become the dumping groundfor the emotional anxieties of others, and you would be abused and deceived into thinking that the feeling toward you was genuine.

It would be advisable for you to become independent as soon as you can earn a living and take care of your own needs. You need the companionship of people who don't expect anything from you except friendship. You should develop a new perspective so you can relate to people with greater understanding and mutual trust. If your intense emotional nature requires that you become involved, be hesitant about making any binding commitments. Marriage could be a disaster if you have not overcome the subtle distortions of your early conditioning. You would in a way be 'getting even'with your partner for damages wrought by someone else; you would be punishing the wrong person. You are enormously vulnerable to manipulation, because you tend to be indiscriminate in satisfying your emotional hunger. By assuming that everyone is honest and sincere, you could be left high and dry when you most need cooperation.

Time is the factor you have going for you, because in time you will gain maturity and judgement. Don't take a shortcut and avoid the laborious process of learning understand people and their motivations. That would be asking for unhappiness. Become involved in group endeavors that will bring you into close contact with people so you can learn how they behave and how they are motivated in their objectives. You will also learn to understand human failings and to judge more clearly anyone to whom you are affectionately drawn.

Moon square Venus (Betty Lundsted)

The Moon represents the physical mother and how she reacts to her life at the time of our birth, and how she reacts to us emotionally. Venus represents the psychological efect of the mother's concepts of femininity and love that is retained in our psyche. The square between these planets represents emotional stress absorbed in the childhood. This square indicates excessive feelings of resentment regarding the biological role women are forced to play; it therefore indiactes that the mother had certain resentments about the responsibilities of mother hood when this childwas born. She may have grown out of these feelings; she may have adjusted to the role of motherhood later on in the marriage. But when this child was born, the mother passed on a feeling that women had to justify or prove their existence, that a woman was a second-class citizen.

The male born with Venus square the Moon has a different problem because he is a man and not a woman. His mother didn't like her biological role; she resented beingstuck with diapers and the 2 a.m. feedings, and she probably didn't get enough understanding or help from her husband when this child was born. The mother may have given up all hope of a much wanted career. The male with this aspect has a different dilemma from the female who has it, for he will have to make peace with the concept of his emotional worth, or his values regarding women, or both. When he grows up, the chances are that he won't expect a woman to be in his corner, and he may have a closed attitude about the possibilities of any love relationship. He is affected by his mother's lack of respect for'womanhood' in general. The square indicates that his Mom didn't like or respectother women; and, if she's a woman and she didn't like women, why should he?

posted March 18, 2012 01:22 PM            

Just my experience, no offense intended.

posted March 18, 2012 01:27 PM              

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
All the people I've known with this aspect have commitment issues, and they play hardcore games when it comes to romance, maybe not intentionally but they just have a hard time being responsible and often act in very contradicting ways. I don't think these people realize the emotional impact they can make on others, because they often appear careless/incoherent. And apparently it seems that they don't really like feminine traits, like showing emotions is weak, etc.

Just my experience, no offense intended.

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posted March 18, 2012 01:35 PM              

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Originally posted by ariesdragon:
"but i do get confused about it coz i dunno if i like them or i like that they like me."

That's hard to go through bud i feel u

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posted March 18, 2012 01:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ariesdragon:
[b] "but i do get confused about it coz i dunno if i like them or i like that they like me."

That's hard to go through bud i feel u

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I don't feel that part of the aspect at all. Like most girls, I end up ignoring most guys who like me.[/B][/QUOTE]

posted March 18, 2012 01:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
Like most girls, I end up ignoring most guys who like me.

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posted March 18, 2012 01:44 PM            

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Originally posted by s4nd:
irresponsible in what way tho? when i think that, earthy me, thinks homeless. i hope they weren't like that.

with the games, aren't they more prone to manipulation? iv never met a manipulative partner tho.

what emotional impact? femme traits in men women i am fine with but abit true about emotion. doesn't help that the moon is in the cap house.

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Well, it's like they don't care for other people's feelings, they only do what *they* want to do, regardless of what the other person may be feeling.

Irresponsible as in, they don't want to be tied down to anybody, they're not willing to commit because they don't want to be "trapped" by the demands of a partner.
That's why people with this aspect can be unfaithful or eternally single, they simply don't want to settle down, and when they do, they're not satisfied with their partner (for whatever reason).

posted March 18, 2012 01:45 PM            

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Originally posted by ariesdragon:
^^ Lmao ya the chase is extremely exciting for a lot of ppl

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posted March 18, 2012 02:00 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Especially for people with strong Aries.
Ha.

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posted March 18, 2012 02:39 PM            

His relationship with women isn't good either. He doesn't like the mother of his child and accuses her of abuse towards their child to other people without any proof whatsoever. He's never dumped anyone, but has sent women running because he manipulates them. It's a game to him- pursuing women and then toying with them.

posted March 18, 2012 02:51 PM            

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Originally posted by ariesdragon:
Aries the hunters
If you don't hunt then no food so ya LOL

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Capricorn the money counters. If I don't got to feed you, I gotsa more food to eat. Before I invite you to my table for dinner, you gotta prove to me you can hunt as much food as I do. I don't do leaches.

I never chase. . Aiming the gun at the fast flying pigeon that gets away makes you miss the turkey on the ground in front of you. Thus making you hungry.

posted March 18, 2012 03:10 PM              

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Originally posted by ariesdragon:
is this something you're happy with?

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We always want what we can't have, huh?

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posted March 18, 2012 03:28 PM            

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Originally posted by s4nd:
ack! i think i got it! and i think u have a good grasp on it more than me lol! i get what you mean by unintentionally because if you ask me i want all the traditional venus in taurus stuff but then i really do fear being trapped. i remember saying that even in career matters and moon is in that house! but i don't have the overt dislike of commitment.

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Yeah I see what you mean.

My last love interest had a chart very similar to yours, and he messed with my head real bad. Showed genuine interest at first and then ran away when I reciprocated. So I'm a bit wary of afflicted Moons and Venuses now, especially when Pluto is in the mix..
Not that I have anything against you though!

I wonder how to conciliate such contradicting energies though? It's probably quite difficult to have a satisfying life with so many inner conflicts.
But eh, everyone has their own issues I guess!