posted March 20, 2012 01:28 AM            

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Originally posted by SaggiMC:
see this is the problem without seeing the chart and taking the whole chart into consideration. Presumably moon and neptune have 'other aspects' which will either help or hinder the expressions. Also look to the house and house cusp ruler.

With the moon neptune quincunx, they can be rather subtle influences,but is there anything about mother or women that you find confusing? do you perhaps overidealise mother or women?

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i alredy deleted this account the other day so not sure if it will stay up.

and sure i could overidealize both..

posted March 20, 2012 08:22 PM            

Just joking.

With self-awareness and some inner work, it should be just fine

Sure it may not be easy, but hey, "victory is sweetest when you've known defeat"

And about this:
"It would be advisable for you to become independent as soon as you can earn a living and take care of your own needs"

posted March 21, 2012 02:50 AM            

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Originally posted by IamLoved:
Sand cheer up I'm sure you'll find the lady that is meant for your you I think you probably have a thing for ladies who are on the creative side, who enjoys food, music, (taurus) who acts regal, is confident, (leo) and are loyal and a bit stubborn (leo and taurus)

Look for a girl like that and I think you should be just fine

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hehe aww thanks iamloved! i am not really sure what i like, pretty and shiny? some people with the cardinal square tell me it is between stability and excitement for them. i am not really sure what the fixed signs are about.

posted March 21, 2012 03:10 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux R�ve:
Nah, let's face it, you're doomed!

Just joking.

With self-awareness and some inner work, it should be just fine

Sure it may not be easy, but hey, "victory is sweetest when you've known defeat"

And about this:
"It would be advisable for you to become independent as soon as you can earn a living and take care of your own needs"

I think what the author meant is that you'd better live on your own as soon as you can (meaning, away from the parents) so that you can rely less on others and become more independent, because that way you'd be able to know what your needs and wants are (and not what others tell you).

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hmph!!

i see! well i don't think they dictate to me what i need or want. pluto conj asc would never listen anyway lol!

it must be transiting saturn on my asc and neptune doing something to my natal neptune in cap making me rethink alot of things.

posted March 21, 2012 06:10 AM            

My Mars is in Scorpio, sand, just like yours

posted March 21, 2012 06:31 AM            

I have one bad news and one very bad news.
I went through nearly every possible ideal perfect partner natal chart element combination's for those who have "Moon square Venus" in their natal chart.

First of all i am not gonna quote anything about this aspect's explanation.
You can read from; www.cafeastrology.com
or www.astro.com

as you read from there and know, people with these aspect including me are doomed to have more challenges than compatible moon-venus combination owners. This is a "FACT". Even how far you achieved to balance the incompatible energy coming from them,you had/have still that imcompatibleness hidden in you. At least as the time goes by you learned to "desire the one you get along or get along with the one you desire". But still it is not real you. SO this is unfair anyway..

Now for the chart. Lets assume there is chart which is nearly perfect match for you which is created around ten year circle you born. So lets assume this chart "exists". In order to have a perfect match, the partner also HAS TO have moon-venus square aspects.
Lets see why.
Lets assume your square includes-Fire and Water
In order to get sextiles, trines or conjunctions in synastry, your partner square must include Fire-Water(for the conjunction and trine) or (lets assume quincunx is acceptible)Air-Water(for sextile).

So it is valid for every element combination you have.. as you see, combinations are between incompatible elements.

if you got the point then the big problem arises. Before the explanation->.. Moon square Venus people relationships are not very long or "generally" in harmony. Because when these people fell in love with their "moon(it is the general case)" as the time goes by and feelings got softened they tend to seek "Venus" which is incompatible with their partner generally. One way or another they understand they are not very compatible(i did not say incompatible). Because Moon(emotions) and Venus(desires) are at cross-purposes.

İf we get back to point where problem arise.. So as you see for perfect match both partners HAVE TO HAVE "MOON-SQUARE-VENUS" in their natal chart so their desires and emotions can have good match. First of all In synastry, Moon-Venus good combination is more important than Moon-Moon or Venus-Venus compatibility. so when they have both square in their natal chart (which is compatible in synastry ofc) they can be really happy but... the problem is the partners are prone to emerge their non-harmony energies when in relationship. Even they are compatible the partners will have challenges in theirselves. It means that these people are problematic in their nature. if we both partners are problematic then how can it be a perfect love? soon or later problems will arise even in a perfect synastry or composite chart. I AM NOT SAYING THEY CAN NOT BE HAPPY.. I AM JUST SAYING THAT SOMEWHERE INNER SIDE of partners they will know something is not perfect. IT can be really good relationship but it will never be as Neptune demands . Moon-Venus opposition in natal chart people dont have these problems because when they found someone with Moon-Venus conjunction combination and trines one of your opposite planets and other planet will take sextile also(sextile + trine = opposition). So it is good.

I have a Moon-Square-Venus also by the way
Conclusion: WE ARE DOOMED NOT TO HAVE an EPİC RELATİONSHİP FOR LONG.

-Just date with two partners one of who will satisfy your moon and the other one will satisfy your Venus.

PROBLEM SOLVED!!!

Also people with chiron in 5th or 7th house(if chiron is in cancer or pisces it gets worse) and Ceres hard aspects to Venus and Uranus may also be doomed to nurture more than being nurtured..

posted March 21, 2012 06:47 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux R�ve:
Oh man, tSaturn is being hard on everyone currently! It's conjunct my Venus and Jupiter right now. Ugh, and then it will slowly move towards my other personal planets, awesome..

My Mars is in Scorpio, sand, just like yours

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oh my god!

posted March 21, 2012 07:01 AM            

Reading this makes me feel like I have this aspect but luckily I don't.

But I have Chiron in the 5th and an afflicted Ceres so according to you that's good news also.. Ahem.

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Originally posted by s4nd:

can't i just read the trine and wif my stubborn taurus powers make it a trine?! ok i know i can't lol!

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posted March 21, 2012 07:13 AM            

ima chiron in gem 8th house and a ceres in aries 6th house unaspected. maybe we shud nurture more than concentrate on our own needs. but yeaheasier sed than done..

posted March 21, 2012 08:50 AM            

hi Mert, suddenly I am so thankful God gave me a Moon-Venus exact trine forming a Grand Trine with pluto-mars conjuntion.

Wait a min.... hey, I got Venus exact square Saturn!!

I guess God is fair.

posted March 21, 2012 09:02 AM            

I like your last sentence:

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I want to please the un-pleasable.

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posted March 21, 2012 09:05 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Oh so very Neptunian

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posted March 21, 2012 09:17 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Oh my, nothing, absolutely nothing!
You just can't help it.

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