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Faith
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posted March 24, 2012 11:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How much do they matter?

Do you think it might be easier to catch a person's energy signature right away, at the time of the "birth" of the relationship? Does that afford a special kind of window maybe?

I'm thinking about some relationships where my first impression of a person had me feeling like, "This won't work out between us." But then, I warmed up to them and sometimes even became great friends with them. Then the relationship ended in the same way as it began...with my thought being the same as it was when we met.

Example: I met a girl who I thought was just unbearably shy. Too shy. I got her to warm up to me and we actually became very close friends. Moon conjunct moon.

About ten years later she had a personal crisis and broke off communication with many of her friends, including me. 'Just retreated into herself completely...which is how she was in my first impression.

And as I think about many of my relationships, I can say that my first impression was usually correct. Even with my husband, within a few minutes of meeting him, I was thinking. "I'll probably marry him."

Is this just me or do you think it's a general phenomenon?

Will you share your experiences, and how astrology shapes your perceptions?

I'm a 6H Cap sun, 8H Pisces moon, Leo rising conj Saturn.

Maybe it's my moon telling me things.

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MataMoros
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posted March 24, 2012 11:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MataMoros     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have good intuition. Most of the time you will figure someone out on their first impression but there are others who constantly change or evolve, that you would not be able to use your intuitive faculties to determine their disposition.

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Faith
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posted March 24, 2012 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MataMoros:
You have good intuition. Most of the time you will figure someone out on their first impression but there are others who constantly change or evolve, that you would not be able to use your intuitive faculties to determine their disposition.

Yes, good intuition, with limits.

How about you, how's yours?


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Planet Queen
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posted March 24, 2012 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Planet Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes I totally believe in first impressions, because since the person is unfamiliar at first you have to rely on intuition and almost feel the person out and if they bring off a weird vibe, then its not worth being friends with that person or worst case scenario is dating that person, haha! I tend to do this a lot or at least when I'm sober and aware of the subtleties of intuition.

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posted March 24, 2012 11:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MataMoros     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
Yes, good intuition, with limits.

How about you, how's yours?


My intuition.. I have to basically mentally focus on something else so I don't look at a person and read them.

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posted March 24, 2012 11:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Planet Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh weird, Faith, I just realized we both have Pisces moon... We rely far more on intuition than most, especially if you have any planets in the water houses or in my case my Moon is in the 3rd house, so communication and being social is all wrapped up in intuition and feeling...

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posted March 24, 2012 11:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tautomer4314     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The overall feel and vibe I get of someone during a first impression is largely completely untainted and sterile. Because of that, I largely find the information I gather in those first few minutes and seconds to be correct nearly 95% of the time. Of course I learn more about someone over time, but the initial vibe will always prove itself time and time again if I get to know them. I'm naturally very good at reading people.

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posted March 25, 2012 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by tautomer4314:
The overall feel and vibe I get of someone during a first impression is largely completely untainted and sterile. Because of that, I largely find the information I gather in those first few minutes and seconds to be correct nearly 95% of the time. Of course I learn more about someone over time, but the initial vibe will always prove itself time and time again if I get to know them. I'm naturally very good at reading people.


it must be your scorp moon,all scorp moons i know are the same way

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Faith
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posted March 25, 2012 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Planet Queen:
Oh weird, Faith, I just realized we both have Pisces moon... We rely far more on intuition than most, especially if you have any planets in the water houses or in my case my Moon is in the 3rd house, so communication and being social is all wrapped up in intuition and feeling...

That's great, we can compare notes. I have Libra Pluto and Scorpio Uranus in the third. Edit later: 4th probably (rectified chart)


If I weren't so tired right now I might be able to see how that affects my interaction with people.

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Faith
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posted March 25, 2012 12:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
it must be your scorp moon,all scorp moons i know are the same way

Water moons.


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aquaguy91
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posted March 25, 2012 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Water moons.


yea,im kind of intuitive , i have moon trine neptune,uranus,and mercury. and neptune and uranus conjunct mercury,and sun in the twelfth

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posted March 25, 2012 12:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Water moons.


yea,im kind of intuitive , i have moon trine neptune,uranus,and mercury. and neptune and uranus conjunct mercury,and sun in the twelfth

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posted March 25, 2012 12:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tautomer4314     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
it must be your scorp moon,all scorp moons i know are the same way

Yup, and having an 8th house stellium. It was as if my chart was hand-tailored for reading people and seeing what goes on inside of their heads. It just makes logical sense to me and I have been able to do it since I was a small child. My close friends very often come to me for advice on new people they meet (among other things). The only down side is I can't use this skill well in real time. I often need to take a step back to process and filter the information I gather. In essence it works in past and future situations, but not present. It's extremely rare for me to meet someone that does not make sense to me.

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posted March 25, 2012 01:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for s4nd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Desiring Shadows
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posted March 25, 2012 01:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I rely a lot on first impressions. When I met this one boy recently the first word tha came to mind was obnoxious and after a little while that proved true. Although I don't believe someone should keep that first impression forever because people change.
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Faith
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posted March 26, 2012 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
I rely a lot on first impressions. When I met this one boy recently the first word tha came to mind was obnoxious and after a little while that proved true. Although I don't believe someone should keep that first impression forever because people change.
Libra sun merc venus
Sag moon
Gem asc
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Yeah, I've been thinking about that. Also, transits affect people and can make them crazy sometimes.

But some things don't change, like how your synastry and composite charts look with that person.

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Faith
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posted March 26, 2012 08:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by aquaguy91:
yea,im kind of intuitive , i have moon trine neptune,uranus,and mercury. and neptune and uranus conjunct mercury,and sun in the twelfth

For what it's worth you've always seemed so to me, but it's hard to put too fine a point on that. Just an impression.

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posted March 26, 2012 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MataMoros:
I have to basically mentally focus on something else so I don't look at a person and read them.

I have to do that too.

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Faith
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posted March 26, 2012 08:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by tautomer4314:
Yup, and having an 8th house stellium. It was as if my chart was hand-tailored for reading people and seeing what goes on inside of their heads. It just makes logical sense to me and I have been able to do it since I was a small child. My close friends very often come to me for advice on new people they meet (among other things). The only down side is I can't use this skill well in real time. I often need to take a step back to process and filter the information I gather. In essence it works in past and future situations, but not present. It's extremely rare for me to meet someone that does not make sense to me.


I'm really curious about this. What kind of things do you see...a general picture of good or bad...or what a person might do in certain situations, ie "They seem like they would lie a lot" or something?

Can you tell us what kind of things you see?

Your birthday is near Gary Goldschneider's, who is my favorite pop astrologer, and whose objectivity with reading people is just astounding. Maybe that's significant.

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posted March 26, 2012 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fairaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I try not to judge people too harshly because they could be just having a bad day.
Being a shy person I think it give some what of an edge on people.


There are are a couple people I never never never never trusted and if they were in the same room as me I was on the other side of it, keeping my eye on them.
They had a "dark cloud" over them. Their souls were dark.

Ive only met 3 people like this. The first 2 have both murdered their wives. I have just recently met the 3rd person within the last 6 months and have only been around him a hand full of times.
Hes a dark character. You can see it in his eyes. There is just a "dark cloud" above him.


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posted March 26, 2012 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by fairaqua:
I try not to judge people too harshly because they could be just having a bad day.
Being a shy person I think it give some what of an edge on people.


There are are a couple people I never never never never trusted and if they were in the same room as me I was on the other side of it, keeping my eye on them.
They had a "dark cloud" over them. Their souls were dark.

Ive only met 3 people like this. The first 2 have both murdered their wives. I have just recently met the 3rd person within the last 6 months and have only been around him a hand full of times.
Hes a dark character. You can see it in his eyes. There is just a "dark cloud" above him.


that sounds scary

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Faith
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posted March 26, 2012 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by fairaqua:
I try not to judge people too harshly because they could be just having a bad day.
Being a shy person I think it give some what of an edge on people.


There are are a couple people I never never never never trusted and if they were in the same room as me I was on the other side of it, keeping my eye on them.
They had a "dark cloud" over them. Their souls were dark.

Ive only met 3 people like this. The first 2 have both murdered their wives. I have just recently met the 3rd person within the last 6 months and have only been around him a hand full of times.
Hes a dark character. You can see it in his eyes. There is just a "dark cloud" above him.


Wow that is spooky.

I can't look at pictures of murderers without my blood curdling. I so strongly feel what they have done.

But I want to add that I don't judge anyone harshly. I have Venus conjunct Neptune and if anything, I naively assume I can get along with just about anyone...except people who I know are dangerous or so mentally ill, they are not actually there anymore.

And my friend who I lost, who was shy...those were great years we had together. While they lasted. Sometimes you just get a short time with people.

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posted March 26, 2012 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
For what it's worth you've always seemed so to me, but it's hard to put too fine a point on that. Just an impression.

really,how so?

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posted March 26, 2012 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
really,how so?

This is hard to explain. It might just be that you have said a lot about your feelings, which signals sensitivity in general to me.

Carrying it further, I feel like I can just "feel" you. Like, I get a stronger feeling about some people. Not romantic feelings just a kind of vibe. I would call this "psychic resonance."

I only feel it with people who are also intuitive.

But it's so subtle that putting it into words already seems to be overstating it. If we were physically in the same room, it'd be more obvious, what I'm trying to say.

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Originally posted by Faith:
How much do they matter?

It honestly depends. I don't rest any judgment on the minute I've just met someone because there are so many things that we'd have to consider when making judgments about someone's character solely on a first impression. We are human therefore we have biases and we perceive the world differently. It's like the saying "Don't judge a book by its cover" EVER! You have to get to know someone first.

Of course trust your instincts but solely relying on first impressions can be an excuse for being prejudice or worse. I take nothing at face value. And I don't know a person until I "know" them which takes more than 4 seconds. We have intentions and hidden motivations when interacting with others and we might not be aware of them. We might measure someone's character based on our own intentions and adopt a utilitarian approach to interacting with them. Considering we are human and our judgment alone cannot be trusted when measuring character, it's just better to get to know someone personally before making assumptions about them.

Coming from a Libra Sun, Aquarius Rising (w/ a stellium in the 8th) who is perpetually misunderstood and misjudged by others who think they can measure a person's character by glancing at them.

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