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Topic: Pisces Moon vs. Sagittarius Moon
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Aquacheeka Knowflake Posts: 127 From: Toronto, Canada Registered: Mar 2012
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posted March 26, 2012 10:19 AM
This is a synastry related question. How does an individual with a Pisces moon acquiesce to an individual with a Sagittarius moon's intense need for freedom?My boyfriend and I have these moon signs which don't fully jive with one another. His verbal harshness can really come up against my sensitivity and need for extreme empathy and consideration. In addition, we recently had a fight about his occasional need to stay out all night drinking and laughing with his buddies and my feeling that it's inconsiderate to do this without warning or a phone call that he will not be coming home. It's not really about jealousy or lack of trust but moreso the feeling that this is inconsiderate towards me. Also, if I'm being honest a big part of what bothers me about this behaviour is that when this occurs he tends to be a "write-off" the next day in terms of his energy levels and general mood and I feel that this is unfair to me as well as I look forward to that day spent together. I don't know how to convey this to him without brushing up against him and making him feel restricted. Is there any way to rectify the inherent differences in these moon signs or are we bound to keep fighting over the same issues? IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 645 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 26, 2012 10:29 AM
Namaste Aquacheeky,I'm a Pisces moon. I don't have much experience with Sag moons except that one of my longest-standing friendships is with a Pisces Sun/Sag moon. I actually enjoy my freedom also. We are okay only having a few marathon discussions a year. What we do have is a deep core of trust and mutual respect that allows us lots of space to do whatever we want. If you and your boyfriend can achieve that, I'd say there is hope. Presently I hope you don't mind me saying, hearing about your situation makes me sad. It's not hard to make a phone call and in "normal" relationships (pardon the generalization)...the line of communication is strong and reliable. Often the relationship is only as strong as the communication. My two cents. Best wishes. IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka Knowflake Posts: 127 From: Toronto, Canada Registered: Mar 2012
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posted March 26, 2012 11:02 AM
I am aware that Sagittarians can get in over their head sometimes and this is where they get their reputation for unreliability... I know his intentions are good and it's not like I am unaware that he is going out. It's that he says he won't be home too late and if a certain old Aqua friend of his ends up joining them then the night wears on far longer than he expected and he ends up back at this friend's place laughing, drinking and reminiscing about "the good old days." I understand how it happens but that doesn't mean that I'm OK with it happening, if that makes sense.Being heavily Aqua I'm pretty easy to deal with generally speaking as far as girlfriends are concerned, and I don't demand too much. I'm not fully comfortable with my own feelings of wanting to reign in his night of partying for my own benefit the next day because it feels selfish and restrictive and these feelings are abhorrent to an Aquarian. So it's difficult for me, even, to come to terms with expressing that side of myself. But on another level I understand that in a relationship you shouldn't be ashamed of expressing your needs and yes, occasionally being selfish. It's difficult terrain for me to navigate. I mean, part of what he fell in love with with me is that I'm so understanding and I don't want to seem now like I'm "flipping the script" on him or being duplicitous. And there's really no easy solution because even if he DOES call and let me know that the Aqua is there and he'll be home in the morning, I know that I'll still harbour feelings of bitterness because it will still impede on our plans together the next day. So I'm at a loss as to what to do about this situation. Pisces moon and Sag moon I think can work beautifully in a friendship or social situation but it's a whole different ball game so to speak when it's on a domestic level. We encountered a whole host of brand new issues when we first moved in together and we've compromised and sorted out most of them but still some issues remain. Make no mistake - our emotional needs and personal habits are worlds apart.
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Aquacheeka Knowflake Posts: 127 From: Toronto, Canada Registered: Mar 2012
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posted March 26, 2012 11:03 AM
One thing I know for sure is not to bring this matter up while the moon is in Aries.IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka Knowflake Posts: 127 From: Toronto, Canada Registered: Mar 2012
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posted March 26, 2012 11:04 AM
Faith, what is your sun sign if you don't mind my asking?IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 645 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 26, 2012 11:44 AM
quote: I understand how it happens but that doesn't mean that I'm OK with it happening, if that makes sense.
I actually understand everything you wrote, as if I had written it, no exaggeration. The only difference is, I am no longer in a relationship with someone, where I am forced to think about commitment issues. My husband and I have Venus conj. Saturn and it's very tight. He would never not call. Cap sun Pisces moon Aquarius Mercury Gemini Mars Venus/Neptune Sag Leo rising
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Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 1362 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted March 26, 2012 11:58 AM
I've just had the weirdest déjà-vu feeling, reading your post, Aquacheeka. Sorry this is so random.Square Moon signs are really hard to deal with, that's all I know. Try to talk things out with him, maybe? Or try not to get hurt/offended by everything he says.. Sag Moon people are often unaware of their bluntness. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 645 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 26, 2012 12:02 PM
^ Yeah I had moon square moon with a boyfriend and even though so much of it was marvelous, synastry-wise, when we got together in person, it wasn't great. It's like we needed some distance to flourish.(?) IP: Logged |
Planet Queen Knowflake Posts: 75 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 26, 2012 12:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
My boyfriend and I have these moon signs which don't fully jive with one another. His verbal harshness can really come up against my sensitivity and need for extreme empathy and consideration. In addition, we recently had a fight about his occasional need to stay out all night drinking and laughing with his buddies and my feeling that it's inconsiderate to do this without warning or a phone call that he will not be coming home. It's not really about jealousy or lack of trust but moreso the feeling that this is inconsiderate towards me. Also, if I'm being honest a big part of what bothers me about this behaviour is that when this occurs he tends to be a "write-off" the next day in terms of his energy levels and general mood and I feel that this is unfair to me as well as I look forward to that day spent together. I don't know how to convey this to him without brushing up against him and making him feel restricted.Is there any way to rectify the inherent differences in these moon signs or are we bound to keep fighting over the same issues?
That is really inconsiderate, I hope you really love him or else he sounds like a dick. I'm also a Pisces Moon, and were just so sensitive to the other person that it is very hard when the other person is not being considerate. I don't think this is an issue of Moons sign compatibility, but an issue with your boyfriend in general. If he considers your concern with drinking out all night as annoying is unfair, and maybe he doesn't deserve you. IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka Knowflake Posts: 127 From: Toronto, Canada Registered: Mar 2012
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posted March 26, 2012 01:07 PM
It really doesn't bother me that much. It's not something that happens often. And yes, he can be a bit of a dick (haha). But he also "gets" me on a more fundamental level than any man I've ever met. Our relationship is not exactly conventional - I have four planets in Aquarius and he's an Aquarius rising/Aquarius Mars. In addition, we have a Sun/Uranus conjunction... in many ways our relationship is characterized by freedom and immaturity (lol) and I know that most people aren't going to get it...Mainly, I want to know how to approach him about it when it happens because my moon puts being considerate and keeping the peace above and beyond all else. If I let my Aqua Mercury or Sagittarius Mars take over and I 'lay down the law' in very blunt terms, conflict might ensue and my moon doesn't deal well with that, I always end up in tears. It's a delicate balance. I often wish I had a different moon and a thicker skin. Really, our overall synastry is very good and we have a lot of fun together, our conflicting moon signs is the only real problem area in our compared charts so if we can conquer this square (by sign but not by orb), I figure we are good to go. IP: Logged |
mintgirl123 Knowflake Posts: 2226 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted March 26, 2012 01:11 PM
Moon square moon IS hard to handle bc moon is all about emotions. Relationship won't get that deep or bonded if the moon isn't 'happy' I think.I dated a cancer moon before, and even though we had pretty damn good synastry, the moon squared my libra stellium (by sign not aspect). It just wasn't working at all. He was kinda too clingy for me. IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka Knowflake Posts: 127 From: Toronto, Canada Registered: Mar 2012
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posted March 26, 2012 01:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by mintgirl123: Moon square moon IS hard to handle bc moon is all about emotions. Relationship won't get that deep or bonded if the moon isn't 'happy' I think.I dated a cancer moon before, and even though we had pretty damn good synastry, the moon squared my libra stellium (by sign not aspect). It just wasn't working at all. He was kinda too clingy for me.
See, my problem is that according to astrology, I will never be fully happy. My moon sign is the only feminine sign pretty much in my entire chart:s. My Sun, Mercury, Venus and Jupiter are all in Aquarius, my Mars is in Sagittarius, so I am always attracted to "guys' guys" and in many ways, they go best with me. But then on this deeper level, I'm a lot more sensitive, shy, and clingy than I let on. This is where my relational problems stem from.
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Aquacheeka Knowflake Posts: 127 From: Toronto, Canada Registered: Mar 2012
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posted March 26, 2012 01:19 PM
My boyfriend is a Sag Sun/Sag moon. I actually love Sag men. It's a double dose of what I love. But what I love is not necessarily always going to be good for me. lol.He has a Sun/Neptune conjunction so he's very Piscean in some ways, (I mean, he's a musician), so we relate very well on an instinctive, spiritual level that does compensate for the moon signs. We both have real chart conflicts, I think, that lend some inconsistency in terms of who we are and what we're looking for. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 1362 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted March 26, 2012 01:25 PM
I know what you mean, Aquacheeka, many people have very conflicting energies in their natal charts so finding a partner who corresponds to all the elements is probably impossible.I think you can still work it out. Sure it's not very easy, but with self-awareness and some efforts, it can be done! Especially if you have other supporting aspects. Hope it works out for you  IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka Knowflake Posts: 127 From: Toronto, Canada Registered: Mar 2012
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posted March 26, 2012 01:55 PM
Thank you, Doux Rêve. Yes, I often wish my moon sign was in a fire sign or something, but there's nothing really wrong, I guess, with adding a little bit of "soul." Without this planetary placement I don't think I ever would have attracted or been able to relate to all the wonderful earth sign friends that I have, so I'll try to look on the bright side  IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 1362 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted March 26, 2012 02:03 PM
Oh I feel you, I wish I had a fire Moon too, because they seem to take things less seriously and are just so full of life!But nope, earth Moon here  I like Pisces Moons, they're sweet. Wish more people were like them (you)! IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 645 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 26, 2012 02:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by Doux Rêve: Oh I feel you, I wish I had a fire Moon too, because they seem to take things less seriously and are just so full of life!But nope, earth Moon here  I like Pisces Moons, they're sweet. Wish more people were like them (you)!
Ditto to this, fire moons seem to have all the fun You're sweet, too, Doux. Which earth moon are you?
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Aquacheeka Knowflake Posts: 127 From: Toronto, Canada Registered: Mar 2012
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posted March 26, 2012 02:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: Ditto to this, fire moons seem to have all the fun You're sweet, too, Doux. Which earth moon are you?
She is! And they do! lol. I'm going to take a guess and say maybe Virgo?
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Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 1362 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted March 26, 2012 02:52 PM
Yes! Virgo  We're opposite but I think an opposition is better than a square, the connection is not as tense and there is mutual admiration (even though it can turn into mutual annoyance sometimes haha) but overall I think it's not that bad! IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka Knowflake Posts: 127 From: Toronto, Canada Registered: Mar 2012
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posted March 26, 2012 02:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by Doux Rêve: Yes! Virgo  We're opposite but I think an opposition is better than a square, the connection is not as tense and there is mutual admiration (even though it can turn into mutual annoyance sometimes haha) but overall I think it's not that bad!
I had a strong feeling when you said earth moon! Two of my best friends are Aqua and Gem but when I finally got around to doing their full charts years into the friendships I discovered they were both Virgo moons I tend to attract Virgo suns or moons for some reason Just like you said, real mutual admiration. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 645 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 26, 2012 03:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by Doux Rêve: Yes! Virgo  We're opposite but I think an opposition is better than a square, the connection is not as tense and there is mutual admiration (even though it can turn into mutual annoyance sometimes haha) but overall I think it's not that bad!
Here, here! Also, your moon is trine my sun so I like you a lot.  IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 645 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 26, 2012 03:35 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aquacheeka: She is! And they do! lol. I'm going to take a guess and say maybe Virgo?
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Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 1362 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted March 26, 2012 03:42 PM
Aww you guys are too sweet! We Virgo Moons usually get a bad rap, but it's refreshing to see that some people actually appreciate us.  IP: Logged |
RedScorp Knowflake Posts: 1371 From: The Capitol Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 26, 2012 03:45 PM
quote: Originally posted by Doux Rêve: Aww you guys are too sweet! We Virgo Moons usually get a bad rap, but it's refreshing to see that some people actually appreciate us. 
Virgo Moons are great! Reserved, conservative - definitely a elegant touch! My best friend is a Virgo Moon and she really balances out my ridiculousness and gregarious...ness.  IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 1362 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted March 26, 2012 03:49 PM
Hehe well I've got a Gemini rising to balance things out..  And RedScorp, yours is in Capricorn, right? Must be why you get along well with your friend  IP: Logged |