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Topic: Moon/Venus Vs. Sun Sign in Compatibility
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Aquacheeka Knowflake Posts: 1954 From: Toronto Registered: Mar 2012
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posted March 26, 2012 11:28 AM
My question is a simple one:If moon/Venus determines a man's needs and what he's attracted to when it comes to women, why do most men end up marrying according to sun sign? IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 2167 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted March 26, 2012 11:49 AM
Really? I don't think I've seen that Sun sign compatibility prevails in marriage.What are your sources? On another note, if that's true, it may be because the Sun is the most important part of who we are, so if that part is compatible with someone, it makes it easier to be with that person, because our temperaments are similar. IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka Knowflake Posts: 1954 From: Toronto Registered: Mar 2012
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posted March 26, 2012 11:54 AM
The Astrology File by Gunter Sachs used official Swiss statistics (sample size approx. one million) and found that most signs marry their own sun sign most often, although divorce rates varied (cardinal signs and Gemini tended to divorce their own sign least often as well).One thread concerning the research is here: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/014471.html I believe there was another study done in France but I'm not certain of its origins or sample size so I tend to stick to the Sachs study. IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka Knowflake Posts: 1954 From: Toronto Registered: Mar 2012
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posted March 26, 2012 11:57 AM
No idea why Sag women love Cancer males so much, or why Gemini men go so often for Taurus women. Those two examples seem counterintuitive, to me.According to Sachs, the Pisces female/Cappy male combo is the zodiac's most successful; overall, sextiles and conjunctions seem to be the strongest indicators, followed by trines. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 2167 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted March 26, 2012 12:09 PM
Oh that's very interesting.But Gemini with Scorpio? Must be a joke! Haha but really, they're so different. I think it's because when people are born around the same time of year, they have greater chances to have personal planets conjunct ie Sun, Mercury and Venus, especially. That's why many signs marry their own Sun sign or the Sun sign next to them. The trine and sextile seem to be common, too, but to a lesser extent. IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka Knowflake Posts: 1954 From: Toronto Registered: Mar 2012
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posted March 26, 2012 12:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by Doux Rêve: Oh that's very interesting.But Gemini with Scorpio? Must be a joke! Haha but really, they're so different.
lol, I agree. Apparently, Gemini men marry Scorps and Tauruses quite often but Capricorn women least often. Makes no sense to me either but then when have Gems ever been predictable?
Virgo, Scorp, Sagittarius and Aqua are signs that love to marry their own but then it implodes just as often. Cardinals are the ones who truly love their own and forever, apparently. I find it fascinating (and questionable) but Sachs was of the belief that sun sign was the be-all, end-all factor in everything, and sought to prove it. He was a Scorpio.
Apparently, Pisces women marry (and divorce) Scorpio men most often, but Pisces men marry - and last - with Scorpio women most often. So they're two signs that buck the same-sign marriage trend.
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Aquacheeka Knowflake Posts: 1954 From: Toronto Registered: Mar 2012
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posted March 26, 2012 12:41 PM
Genders do have to be taken into account. Another example was apparently Leo women with Aquarius men - common marital match - Leo men with Aquarius women - very uncommon match (according to Sachs' book).So do keep in mind that the link I posted was really to show a correlation with the length of the marriage as opposed to the commonness of the marriage itself. That's another thread, I will look for it IP: Logged |
s4nd Knowflake Posts: 487 From: Registered: Feb 2012
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posted March 26, 2012 12:44 PM
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Planet Queen Knowflake Posts: 301 From: Portlandia Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 26, 2012 12:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aquacheeka: The Astrology File by Gunter Sachs used official Swiss statistics (sample size approx. one million) and found that most signs marry their own sun sign most often, although divorce rates varied (cardinal signs and Gemini tended to divorce their own sign least often as well).
No! I'd never marry another Leo Sun! IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka Knowflake Posts: 1954 From: Toronto Registered: Mar 2012
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posted March 26, 2012 12:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by Planet Queen: No! I'd never marry another Leo Sun!
You know, Leo was another sign that bucked the trend? Leo men married Aries women most often. So that might be of interest to you. Here is a link, Leos are a special case! lol: http://jennifercopley.suite101.com/marriage-and-divorce-for-leo-a46760
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Aquacheeka Knowflake Posts: 1954 From: Toronto Registered: Mar 2012
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posted March 26, 2012 12:51 PM
How do you do italics on this site? I guess I'm used to HTML code and this site uses IMG or some other?IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 2167 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted March 26, 2012 12:52 PM
When you add a reply, on your left:*UBB Code is ON You click there and it's all explained IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka Knowflake Posts: 1954 From: Toronto Registered: Mar 2012
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posted March 26, 2012 12:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by Doux Rêve: When you add a reply, on your left:*UBB Code is ON You click there and it's all explained
Thank you!
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Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 2167 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted March 26, 2012 12:54 PM
Scorpio and Pisces.. hmm.. Sounds good in theory, but usually they're so wishy-washy! And they aren't exactly the faithful type either, and a Scorpio cannot tolerate that.Unless they have some hardcore fixed energy, maybe. IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka Knowflake Posts: 1954 From: Toronto Registered: Mar 2012
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posted March 26, 2012 01:00 PM
I think the success of Aquarian woman/Sagittarian man match can be explained by the fact that they probably don't get married until they're 40 .IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 2167 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted March 26, 2012 01:03 PM
^ Haha, I know!They're both freedom loving. But what is your personal opinion on this, Aquacheeka? Do you think Sun sign compatibility is more important than the overall synastry/composite?
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amowls** Knowflake Posts: 1914 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted March 26, 2012 01:07 PM
I mean, that link you posted didn't actually prove that most people marry their own Sun Signs. Only 4 out of 12 signs for women did that and only 3 out of 12 signs for men. Furthermore, the numbers were pretty close.IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 2167 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted March 26, 2012 01:13 PM
I know what you mean, amowls, but it does look like the majority of people marry someone with a compatible Sun sign (conjunction, trine, sextile) or someone with the previous or next Sun sign (probably due to conjunctions between the personal planets, as I said).But with that being said, I don't think the Sun alone can determine anything. Synastry has to be taken into account, otherwise it's not very telling.. And I think if it were that simple (based only on Sun signs), no one would study astrology anyway. IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka Knowflake Posts: 1954 From: Toronto Registered: Mar 2012
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posted March 26, 2012 01:28 PM
quote: Originally posted by amowls**: I mean, that link you posted didn't actually prove that most people marry their own Sun Signs. Only 4 out of 12 signs for women did that and only 3 out of 12 signs for men. Furthermore, the numbers were pretty close.
As I said before, quote: do keep in mind that the link I posted was really to show a correlation with the length of the marriage as opposed to the commonness of the marriage itself
. For that, you can look here: http://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/astrology/Marriage-and-Divorce-by-Sun-Sign-1847974.asp or here: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/014500.html.
Also as I said before, while many signs do marry their own quite often, this is especially pronounced with the cardinals. IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka Knowflake Posts: 1954 From: Toronto Registered: Mar 2012
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posted March 26, 2012 01:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by Doux Rêve: I know what you mean, amowls, but it does look like the majority of people marry someone with a compatible Sun sign (conjunction, trine, sextile) or someone with the previous or next Sun sign (probably due to conjunctions between the personal planets, as I said).But with that being said, I don't think the Sun alone can determine anything. Synastry has to be taken into account, otherwise it's not very telling.. And I think if it were that simple (based only on Sun signs), no one would study astrology anyway.
I do think you're right. There IS this scientific study that takes into account synastry (with sun/moon) and finds a pattern: http://astrologynewsservice.com/news/study-connects-divorce-rate-with-planetary-patterns/
So it can't just be sun signs - maybe for attraction but not when it comes to "going the distance."
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Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 2167 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted March 26, 2012 01:42 PM
Thank you for the links.I do think that Sun/Moon aspects are very important in synastry. But connections to angles and angle rulers are crucial, it seems, when it comes to long term compatibility. IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka Knowflake Posts: 1954 From: Toronto Registered: Mar 2012
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posted March 26, 2012 01:49 PM
I find it interesting that Cancer men and women can marry anyone, and Sagittarius women are the same (can marry anyone). Cancers seem pretty mutable in terms of who they're attracted to, then.IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka Knowflake Posts: 1954 From: Toronto Registered: Mar 2012
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posted March 26, 2012 01:50 PM
lol, Scorpios and Leos are the only two signs who seem to be not very fond of "their own." Can only be ONE king in the jungle, after all.IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 2167 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted March 26, 2012 01:57 PM
I have found that Sag women are often attracted to Cancers, but I think Cancers can attract anyone because they can be quite alluring (at least at first).And maybe they don't divorce often because they don't want to put an end to things, so even if they're unhappy they still stay in the relationship/marriage, because of a sense of security or something. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 2167 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted March 26, 2012 01:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aquacheeka: lol, Scorpios and Leos are the only two signs who seem to be not very fond of "their own." Can only be ONE king in the jungle, after all.
Eh, I think Scorpio WITH Leo would be even more difficult! My parents are a very good example.. They're divorced. But on the other hand, I have a friend who is a Scorpio and her boyfriend is a Leo and they've been together for 3 years. So, I guess it depends on other elements. IP: Logged |