posted April 01, 2012 11:12 AM            

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Originally posted by Lava Flower:
I can relate quite a bit When I was younger, and even till this day, I still do repetitive things like chew on my lip or inside my mouth, sides of my fingernails (GROSS I know), among other things that I would rather not post. When I was younger, and I would get really upset or when I felt helpless like when my mom would clip my toenails (I can't stand my feet being touched till this day) I would start to cry quietly, and then just lose contentiousness. That part, I was told because I have no recollection of it, as I was 3 when those episodes stopped.

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Hi Lava Flower! This is quite interesting and got me thinking about other things I do that are similar to your experiences... I've been biting my fingernails all my life. That's also a behavior of turning stress inwards I guess?

posted April 01, 2012 12:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Nyah:

Sometimes I get so sad that I can't breathe. I don't cry, I just choke. Maybe my eyes tear up a little bit - but this can happen while I'm just walking on the street. Obviously not thinking the most happy thoughts at the moment, but still. I'm just walking there - a little bit sad - and then it's like my throat locks, or gets really swollen suddenly. It's like a sudden emotional sadness comes over me and I can hardly breathe. I have to force myself to calm down and start breathing normally again. So weird. I wasn't even that sad. I don't trust my body

Anyone else having similar experiences..?

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Hi Nyah

I just wanted to say that my daughter has told me that this happens to her sometimes ( the can't breath properly and felling like she is choking )When she gets sad.
She usually gets sad over minor things like a dead Cat on the road etc but she takes it very seriously her Moon is in the 12th house conjunct her Libra Asc her Sun is conjunct Venus in Virgo

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Originally posted by Moonfish:
I have moon pisces in the 12H
and I can defintiely relate to your article.

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Someone here told me that moon in the 12th is like a Pisces moon ( If I remember correctly )
Also about what Faith said about reacting to what other people are feeling their sadness etc is so true

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The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong - Mahatma Gandhi

posted April 10, 2012 01:20 AM            

Hello, resolved some of my Internet connection issues. Thanks for posting your Wheel & for the feedback.

What I'm doing isn't a strict "rule", nor on the technical side astrologically. This has to do with my sensing intuitively how the energies feel in your Wheel.

By the way, thinking a lot is not a bad thing as long as it doesn't become obessive-compulsive. You'll know if you spend the majority of the time thinking about how things "could" be or "should" be. This is why feeling thru is just as important because you're meeting Spirit half-way. As you know, it's not good to only acknowledge something up there in your head because that only leads to mistrust of yourself.

If you say a prayer, does it do you good to just repeat the words without it being heartfelt?

Remember, practice!

It's not a matter of methodically making your mind "shut-up". It may do you good to allow your heart to be overwhelmed & to then use the energy of thought to self-assure yourself or review how it felt.

Keeping in mind your Planet/Sign placements & looking at your Wheel, it feels like much more than most other people, you have a strong theme of proving love is worth it. Your optimism is a huge challenge.

You want to prove yourself right when the optimism hits you. During that time you want to express yourself to others, this brings others towards you, and then this super strong fear hits you leaving you with a lot of guilt for seemingly having "let down" those people.

Your Capricorn Moon & Venus wants nothing to do with this wishy-washy'ness. If you say love is worth it, then it should stand. You should be able to prove it by example. Then the other energies in your Chart is like a pin popping a balloon & deflating it to an almost incomprehensible mass.

More than most people, your vulnerability at any point is "seemingly" the source of the problem. This might compel you to over-compensate by putting up steel defenses. The problem there is, doing this never solves anything. Instead of putting the majority of your energy there, your homework is in LEARNING new ways to express what your heart's needs are.

You have a lot of empty space in your Wheel. That side of the Wheel represents areas of your life that seem to be left unexpressed or unsatisfied. Houses 1,2,3 & 4 have a lot to do with the foundation of one's identity, including establishing one's identity & the stability of a "home" life.

So it's more important than ever that you LEARN how to express your heart's needs! The right people in your life will balance those empty spaces in your Wheel. And people are so important to you, having your Sun, Mercury & Mars in the 11th House, plus that Mars being in Aquarius, it's a double whammy. It may seem like everything you do is for the sake or others.

Resolve those issues and make sure your heart's needs are met as well.

You may do well involved with charitable work even overseas, where your housing is taken care of, and you can free your energy working to help others.

Feel free to let me know if any of this applies, or not

posted April 10, 2012 01:37 AM            

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Holy cow, there are lots of 6th house Scorpio stelliums here.

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Really? Have to get to know them. I'll start a Topic on it, since that me too! It's very challenging.

scorp91 -

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Found this website about planets in 6th and it does touch on it. ]http://astroveda.wikidot.com/stars-in-sixth-house

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Thanks. Whether it's a Western or Vedic translation, 6th House can be tough. It's bad when you get tired & can't be that machine. Forgiving oneself is so important.

posted April 10, 2012 01:47 AM            

Thats interesting that you seem to feel things get worse when you're around your parents. Don't know that there's an easy way to look at that, the dynamics can be so complicated so it's difficult to know where to start.

I'd think about first, how you deal with them. Are they "authority" to you? Do they feel "cold" to you? Do they make you clam up, or is it an argument that keeps breaking out? You know, those are things to ask yourself, and there's a lot of other ways to interactive with one's parents.

Maybe once you answer that for yourself first, then you can reference Houses, Planets or Signs which speak to that.

posted April 14, 2012 12:37 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Virgo, 6th house (and maybe Pisces and 12th house, because it's an axis), and maybe Chiron and Saturn.

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posted April 24, 2012 04:24 PM            

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Feel free to let me know if any of this applies, or not

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BackToEarth
I didn't see your reply until just now, I'm sorry! And you're describing some very interesting points, wow. Thank you so much!!!

What I can say about it is - yes, my thinking is obessive-compulsive and has probably always been that way. My mother once told me when I was a kid that I was thinking too much. I spent a lot of time sitting in my room alone contemplating stuff. I think it was a lot of daydreaming (positive things!) but it also threw me down in a negative spiral when I hit my teens - but then again most teenagers have that black period.

Nowadays it only gets really bad when I'm unhappily in love - which unfortunately has happened a few times now so when I just get up on my feet I get knocked down again.

In its most positive version my mind is very powerful when I'm happy. I feel I can do anything, I'm incredibly strong and will also share this happiness and joy to people around me, supporting them and make the world just a little bit better in my own daily micro-cosmos. When I'm not having all my energy sucked up by my wounded heart that is.

Not sure if those two go hand-in-hand but I want to keep the positive side of my obsessive thinking, obviously.

About proving love is worth it. Yes I can see that is true now when I think of it. I always say I'd risk anything for true love, but when I'm at the point again when I feel burnt I regret it in my head, even though my heart says "at least you tried and now you know".

My closest friends who knows my love stories sometimes describe them as "film-like". The stories includes dramatic teary goodbyes and everything. People have actually cried when I told them my strongest love story, lol! The thing is, several guys has told me they want to marry me (not exactly the ones I wanted to marry though :s), and the ones I really wanted did want me too - but obstacles came in the way. It has been bad timing (he had problems to sort out first), distance (living in different countries - this happened twice) and one time I actually think I was waaay too late to express my emotions and he was way gone by then.

So yes, it's a mix between me saying to myself that "I should give it a chance and stick to it!" and the vulnerable side of me that can't take the pain. It's a constant struggle. And I reeeeaaaaally want to be right in front of my friends, especially when I've told them "I know he likes me, just wait and see! I can sense it!" (the heart is doing the talk and is really believing it too) like I did with this current guy and nothing is still happening.. (the mind tells me I'm such a stupid naive girl and this is THE LAST TIME I do this. NO MORE heartbreak! Engage steel defence!). I feel so ashamed!! My heart is still whispering though.. it tells me I KNOW I'm right but my mind play such tricks on me that I destroy everything myself (by blowing up on him or something) and it all ends in a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Can't wait for a safe home environment. A husband, a family. A place to renew my energy. Friends aren't enough anymore, and honestly they all have boyfriends right now and I'm not needed anymore. I have expressed how I feel to some friends more than I used to and it helps a bit. Not sure how else I can express my heart's needs because what's the point if no one is really listening? Okay that's too much and I know I shouldn't complain. Many people are lonely and my life is good! My problems are pathetic. Yes, charity has come to mind actually! Thinking about going to Nepal this summer. We'll see. I think it's just a temporary band aid though.

posted April 26, 2012 02:36 PM            

Hi.

OK, glad it applies. Funny about the overseas thing being true.

posted April 26, 2012 03:17 PM            

I have NN in Scorpio, House 6 so clearly this is one of my challenges. Unfortunately, my NN is locked into an intercepted sign which is maybe why it's a struggle for me to find that balance - also my 6th house is ruled by Libra which reinforces that. Uranus is also in my 6th conjunct my vertex.

In the opposite house, 12, which is also part of an intercepted sign (Taurus), I have Chiron and then Moon conjuncting my SN as well as Jupiter. Chiron opposes my Uranus/Vertex.

My Moon is severely afflicted to boot - not even one single soft or supporting aspect unless you count the conjunction to Jupiter (which I do because it makes me feel less afflicted )

posted April 27, 2012 12:47 PM            

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The thread about Cap Moons got me thinking about this. I believe the soul and body is connected, and when the soul hurts it affects the physical body. I've had my fair share of psychosomatic symptoms, and I guess the reason I get them is that I suppress my feelings to some extent. What in a chart do you think would indicate the tendency to get these psychosomatic symptoms?
I'm thinking that bottling in emotions is one part of it, but not everyone who does that get physical symptoms, or do they..? There has to be an ingredient that makes it manifest like that?

My examples:
I had red rounded marks on my body for a couple of years and the doctors couldn't find any explanation for them (except that they probably were caused by "mental stress"). At the time I lived in a situation that explains the emotional burden, and when I moved from that town and left that situation behind me the marks disappeared as quickly as they came. I've had night terror disorder as an adult, which also disappeared suddenly at the same time as I had major changes in my life. I've been sneezing for like 15 times a day for ten years and I tried every cure and did every test. I'm not allergic to ANYTHING! Then it stopped suddenly (about the same time as my night terrors ended and I guess for the same reason).

Sometimes I get so sad that I can't breathe. I don't cry, I just choke. Maybe my eyes tear up a little bit - but this can happen while I'm just walking on the street. Obviously not thinking the most happy thoughts at the moment, but still. I'm just walking there - a little bit sad - and then it's like my throat locks, or gets really swollen suddenly. It's like a sudden emotional sadness comes over me and I can hardly breathe. I have to force myself to calm down and start breathing normally again. So weird. I wasn't even that sad. I don't trust my body

Anyone else having similar experiences..?

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