posted March 27, 2012 04:08 PM            

My examples:
I had red rounded marks on my body for a couple of years and the doctors couldn't find any explanation for them (except that they probably were caused by "mental stress"). At the time I lived in a situation that explains the emotional burden, and when I moved from that town and left that situation behind me the marks disappeared as quickly as they came. I've had night terror disorder as an adult, which also disappeared suddenly at the same time as I had major changes in my life. I've been sneezing for like 15 times a day for ten years and I tried every cure and did every test. I'm not allergic to ANYTHING! Then it stopped suddenly (about the same time as my night terrors ended and I guess for the same reason).

Sometimes I get so sad that I can't breathe. I don't cry, I just choke. Maybe my eyes tear up a little bit - but this can happen while I'm just walking on the street. Obviously not thinking the most happy thoughts at the moment, but still. I'm just walking there - a little bit sad - and then it's like my throat locks, or gets really swollen suddenly. It's like a sudden emotional sadness comes over me and I can hardly breathe. I have to force myself to calm down and start breathing normally again. So weird. I wasn't even that sad. I don't trust my body

Anyone else having similar experiences..?

posted March 28, 2012 05:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Nyah:
when the soul hurts it affects the physical body.

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posted March 28, 2012 06:07 AM            

If change tends to alleviate the symptoms, I would look to a lunar/uranian relationship.

I am Moon in Virgo/Mercury in Capricorn and I can relate to the feeling of locking up when emotions arise. My body would even gag instead of display an emotional reaction and it seemed the only way to get the emotion out was to cough, like coughing out thick emotional energy.

It took several years for me, but I have been able to overcome most of my psychosoma (sun allergy, asthma, panic attacks, emotional nausea). I discovered it had a lot to do with not being accepting of my emotions, looking at them as flawed, or broken. Because I spent so much time fixing the feeling associated with the emotion, instead of the root problem, the only way it could manifest was through dis-ease. What worked for me was meditation. I learned pretty quickly that I HATE broken stuff and just sort of, neglected my self because I didn't really know where to start. I couldn't stand to be alone with my self without just hating how unacceptably dysfunctional and inefficient I was emotionally. Fortunately I also learned that if I actually wanted to stop all the symptoms, I would have to learn how to recognize their roots when they arose. Meditation was a great tool for teaching me how to relate with my self, accept my progress with compassion, and laugh at the mechanisms which believed emotion was a code red emergency which required full lock-down.

Just being able to laugh at my super serious mechanisms has been the most effective cure. I hope you feel better. It really sucks to feel like your body is out of control. If you don't feel you can meditate, start by setting aside 5 min for your self everyday. You can time it, or make it last as long as a cup of tea (however you want to do it). Spend the 5 min just being with your self and enjoying the feeling of breathing in and out naturally. If plans arise in your head, or if your mind starts to run off into ideas (which is the minds way of avoiding spending time with its self), just gently bring the mind back to enjoying the present moment and promise that you will deal with whatever needs to be dealt with after the 5 min. is over. Don't make goals or try to achieve anything, other than making a commitment to enjoy the moment for 5 min. If you slip off, don't punish your self either, you will have lots of 5 min. to enjoy, just recognize that you wandered off and go back to breathing.

I think you will be amazed at how just spending 5 min, results in recognizing how to deal with emotion and avoid physical manifestation. Good luck =)

posted March 28, 2012 09:05 AM            

My best friend is a Pisces, and when her sister gets ill, she feels it.

posted March 28, 2012 09:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
Virgo energy will take feelings and manifest them physically. Does Virgo rule your 6th House? Do you have any planets in your 6th.

If change tends to alleviate the symptoms, I would look to a lunar/uranian relationship.

I am Moon in Virgo/Mercury in Capricorn and I can relate to the feeling of locking up when emotions arise. My body would even gag instead of display an emotional reaction and it seemed the only way to get the emotion out was to cough, like coughing out thick emotional energy.

It took several years for me, but I have been able to overcome most of my psychosoma (sun allergy, asthma, panic attacks, emotional nausea). I discovered it had a lot to do with not being accepting of my emotions, looking at them as flawed, or broken. Because I spent so much time fixing the feeling associated with the emotion, instead of the root problem, the only way it could manifest was through dis-ease. What worked for me was meditation. I learned pretty quickly that I HATE broken stuff and just sort of, neglected my self because I didn't really know where to start. I couldn't stand to be alone with my self without just hating how unacceptably dysfunctional and inefficient I was emotionally. Fortunately I also learned that if I actually wanted to stop all the symptoms, I would have to learn how to recognize their roots when they arose. Meditation was a great tool for teaching me how to relate with my self, accept my progress with compassion, and laugh at the mechanisms which believed emotion was a code red emergency which required full lock-down.

Just being able to laugh at my super serious mechanisms has been the most effective cure. I hope you feel better. It really sucks to feel like your body is out of control. If you don't feel you can meditate, start by setting aside 5 min for your self everyday. You can time it, or make it last as long as a cup of tea (however you want to do it). Spend the 5 min just being with your self and enjoying the feeling of breathing in and out naturally. If plans arise in your head, or if your mind starts to run off into ideas (which is the minds way of avoiding spending time with its self), just gently bring the mind back to enjoying the present moment and promise that you will deal with whatever needs to be dealt with after the 5 min. is over. Don't make goals or try to achieve anything, other than making a commitment to enjoy the moment for 5 min. If you slip off, don't punish your self either, you will have lots of 5 min. to enjoy, just recognize that you wandered off and go back to breathing.

I think you will be amazed at how just spending 5 min, results in recognizing how to deal with emotion and avoid physical manifestation. Good luck =)

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Xiiro,
Were you born in Dec. 1977?
Your advice is EXCELLENT for me. You seem to know yourself really well and I think you are one of my accidental teachers.

posted March 28, 2012 11:17 AM            

So and yes, I can definitely relate to the 6th house/Virgo regarding the physical symptoms from... , I have my asc. and chart-ruler merc. conj. in Virgo (square Saturn/Nept.) and mars/NN in Aqua 6th (square Scorp-Moon).

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posted March 28, 2012 02:42 PM            

For something like this, having to do with extreme blocks, it's sometimes helpful to post the image of your Wheel. Have you done that before? If not, we can help you with that.

I've practiced intuitively studying the energy in an accurate Wheel. If you have a T-Square like me, it's also a cause for blocks or delays.

Sometimes I think when people experience this kind of block, half the burden or pain comes from assuming no one else has stuff like that happen to them. Do you know what I mean?

That could be a Saturn/Capricorn thing, dealing with "society" and "our reputation". We may think if we let go of a certain fear or compulsion that our life would fall apart. That people would notice we're different, somehow. But two of the most important things are how we think about ourselves, and how we feel about ourselves. Notice it has nothing to do with "others"? It's a fallacy to believe "others" beliefs about us gives us peace & contentment.

Part of what we "think" about ourselves has to do with not getting distracted. So if someone has a harsh comment on our hair or why we don't smile, don't get tripped up.

Our "feelings" about ourselves come from that consistency. It's not something many of us are born perfecting. Accept that there's always a bigger picture you MUST tap into. Spirit wants you too. Accept it will take a million pounds off your shoulders.

So that's the mental or thinking block. Feelings can be influenced by the Chart too. I can only speak from my experience, but I tend to divide things into two parts so I don't get overwhelmed. One part is the micro, the other is the macro.

Micro needs to be tapped into first. The way your Chart's Aspects affect you on a minute by minute basis. We cannot eliminate Squares & Oppositions. They catch you by surprise every time, so you need to tape record it so you can reference it later. EX: I remember starting to feel this way a couple of months ago. Here's what it felt like, here's what I did, and here's what the outcome was.

Practice makes perfect. Derive inspiration from people who have disabilities who learn to accept them and then, overcome them by adapting.

The macro begins to slowly emerge. So-and-so was the outcome of trying to achieve so-and-so, (for how ever long it took). Then you'll have another project & outcome, and another. The sum of all those is the macro, and part of the frustration about macro is, it isn't something you can review quickly.

Squares & Oppositions are blocks. From what you are saying, I'd strongly recommend that as soon as you feel them, that you go NO FURTHER until you sit down and define it. Make the space & time. So prepare yourself.

"The next time I feel blocked, I promise to set aside 15 minutes, sit in a quiet place, no interruptions, legs crossed, eyes closed, breathing softly, and connect to my heart". FEEL your heart. If you do it right, you should cry and the real emotion should be clear.

Anger? Fear? What are you angry about? What are you afraid of? It's a gift you give yourself.

scorp91 -

You wrote:
i've read something similar about 6th house placements having this effect

My Scorpio Stellium is in my 6th House. Do you remember where you may have read that?

posted March 28, 2012 03:00 PM            

I can totally relate to the OP.

And I know that's because I don't want to deal with my feelings. I don't want to get overwhelmed. So I just bottle them up, but eventually they come out in not so pretty ways. Illnesses, and anger issues in my case.

I have a Virgo Moon/Chiron conjunction, and a Scorpio stellium in the 6th. Saturn opposes the Moon and squares my Scorpio Sun, Mars and Pluto.

I have tried meditation but I can't stick to it. It seems that I enjoy the drama, just can't let go. It's extremely frustrating.

Thank you a lot for your insights, Xiiro and BackToEarth.

posted March 28, 2012 03:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
Virgo energy will take feelings and manifest them physically. Does Virgo rule your 6th House? Do you have any planets in your 6th.

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Thank you so much for your input Xiiro! If I use Placidus then Virgo is my 6H ruler and it's inhabited by Pluto and Uranus. If I use Equal my 6H ruler would be Scorpio and only inhabited by Uranus. I don't have any 12H planets. I have Moon sextile Uranus.

The 5 min meditation sounds like a great idea and I will do that. I try to meditate often but my mind is so cluttered with thoughts that I have a hard time getting anywhere with it. 5 min feels much more do-able!

posted March 28, 2012 03:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Nyah, it may be your Pisces sun & Mercury. You might be reacting to what's going on inside the people around you.

My best friend is a Pisces, and when her sister gets ill, she feels it.

You could be absorbing the sadness of someone you pass on the street and it hits you like a shock wave.

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posted March 28, 2012 04:06 PM            

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Originally posted by BackToEarth:

Anger? Fear? What are you angry about? What are you afraid of? It's a gift you give yourself.

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BackToEarth: Thank you for your input, great insight and your post gave me a lot to think about! To sit down and think (lol, I mean FEEL) like that scares me a little bit. I know there are things I could break down about but I don't want to.

posted March 28, 2012 04:11 PM            

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Originally posted by BackToEarth:
scorp91 -

You wrote:
i've read something similar about 6th house placements having this effect

My Scorpio Stellium is in my 6th House. Do you remember where you may have read that?

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posted March 28, 2012 11:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Yin:
Xiiro,
Were you born in Dec. 1977?

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posted March 31, 2012 10:08 PM            

Havent forgotten... Will reply soon. Thank you...

*bump*

posted April 01, 2012 03:05 AM            

I do believe it has a lot to do with unexpressed emotions. My moon is in the 12th opposed by Saturn 0* and I also have Neptune and Uranus in my 6th. Uranus opposes by 2* and Neptune by 8*. I have mars, in the 7th, at an apex of a tight t-square with Pluto and Jupiter. Square Jupiter 0* and 2* by Pluto.

Not sure what is directly responsible for my "symptoms", but they definitely get worse when I spend time with my parents. Their Uranus is opposite my mars (0* with my dad, 1* with my mom), creating a grand square.

Virgo is my SN.