posted March 29, 2012 08:27 PM            

MC/IC Cardinal (Aries/Libra)
I wouldn't call myself a leader. But sometimes people mistake me for the one in charge of things. And I know how everything works & explain things v.well, I take the time to do that where other people just care about their part & that's it. I want to be in the know & be on top of everything. I get in people's way sometimes cos I have a problem reigning that in. Cardinal Moon/Venus/Mars/Saturn/Pluto

posted March 29, 2012 11:34 PM            

I am a Capricorn and 6 planets (including my sun) are all in that 4th house. I'd like to be a leader! Although i'm the type of person that would rather do things on my own because i wanna do things my way and i feel like i'd get things done correctly. That's not very leaderlike. I like being in control though. It's a security thing. I'd rather lead in an indirect way like the puppet master pulling all the strings but yu can't see him. I'd get really embarrassed if i made a mistake and everyone knew it was me. So if i were leading behind the scenes then i'd be less embarrassed because people wouldn't associate that mistake to me directly. I guess i'd have to get people to do my dirty work competently then.

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posted March 30, 2012 06:34 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Well Ceri, I would not count the wide orbs as the more I understand Astrology, the stricter I get with orbs.

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Especially with asteroids it is a MUST to keep the orbs real tight.
It also is necessary if you want to see what takes "centerstage" in a chart.
the wider orbs come into play if you want to check for the general energetical balance within or between charts.

posted March 30, 2012 06:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Ceri-- Your Jupiter trine Saturn would be a protective mechanism for Jupiter to behave "well" i.e. have a good conscience imho

Ceri--since you are there. My mother has Jupiter oppose Uranus. Please explain that to me. Thank you! Please, be totally frank with old Sag cap on

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Yes, I think Saturn would act as a balancing factor, which is kinda weird, given that Saturn itself is not placed that well (In detriment or fall, retrograde). And still he anchors my Jupiter.
And My Jupiter needs anchoring, being in its own sign Pisces (using traditional rulerships), aspecting its own ruler Neptune, and being in mutal reception with it.
Without my Saturn I probably would never touch the ground.

posted March 30, 2012 06:42 AM            

Jupiter-Uranus-opposition would be fairly generational.
IŽd place more emphasis on it if it were extremely tightly orbed; part of a T-square or Grand Cross, in the cardinal houses, and of course it will always be effective in the houses Jupiter and uranus rule.
In your mum`s case it might be stronger than normal, even if just for the fact that Uranus rules her Sun, and thus is part of her identity.

Now, generally speaking about this isolated aspect. It is the "my way-or the highway"-aspect.
People with this aspect can be highly excentric, original, independently thinking.

But they usually totally overdo it. They strive for indpendence and in doing that fail to hear the voice of others. Either they ignore other`s ideas and thoguths or dismiss them.
They also can be very aprupt and erratic when it comes to their beliefsystems (which might sometimes be unpredictable to others).
They are right, ALWAYS.
uranus is a weird one. totally fluctuating and unpredictable, but at the same time as ruler of the fixed Air sign Aquarius, they can be mentally so stubborn and fixated. If they THINK something is right, they wonŽt allow any other possibilities.

But keep in mind that this would be stronger in the houses they rule.