posted March 29, 2012 08:26 AM            

I want to know if you are the quality of your Angles? Are you a leader/ Cardinal? Are you stubborn/set in your ways/fixed? Are you flexiblae/adapting to change well/ mutable?

Thanks so much!

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posted March 29, 2012 08:38 AM            

Like, if I don't know about a subject, I research it until I can form an opinion on it, but the "burden of proof" for that opinion is highly set. So, if I don't know about something, I'm usually like "k, whatever." For example, I've explored the political spectrum and at one time thought I might be a libertarian. Now that I know more about the world, I identify as a socialist lol (or a socialist democrat with anarchist leanings I guess). I probably wouldn't get into debates about it, though, because I'm still not sure.

posted March 29, 2012 08:39 AM            

ASC Sag

I'm not a leader, though people tend to think of me as one and then tend to get sorely disappointed. My favorite spot is being the person who controls things behind the scenes by whispering advice in the leaders ears. I have a bad habit of just going with the flow and working from there. Although sometimes I can get seriously OCD and have to have things done in certain ways, like a switch goes off and absolutely nothing can change my mind about how things should be done. That trait tends to throw people off.

posted March 29, 2012 09:16 AM            

not much of a leader but i end up making all the descisions anyway XD

posted March 29, 2012 09:18 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
ASC-DESC: mutable (fire-air, Sag-Gemini)
IC-MC: cardinal (fire-air, Aries-Libra)

why you ask?

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Ceri lol
I asked because you had mentioned that I was a leader. This surprised me as I had not seen myself that way, at all. However, I think that I am. I have a Libra ASC which is Cardinal although Libra is wishy washy by nature. In the same way, Cancer is kind of demure but cardinal is cardinal, nonetheless.

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posted March 29, 2012 09:26 AM            

maybe that is the effect of the Libra-MC. I donīt know.

i never was a "leader-figure" in my group; actually I was not even a real part of the group, as I was a bit too different, but curiously my being different was widely accepted and tolerated.
I never was really saying what to do, but I also remember that I did manage, without even really noticing how, to get my whole class to make a fleamarket and donate the money for a charity organization, helping kids who have Cancer.

posted March 29, 2012 09:33 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
When I was in school, several teachers would comment on my "unobtrusive leading skills", like had leading qualities, but neither me nor those around me took really notice of it. lol

maybe that is the effect of the Libra-MC. I donīt know.

i never was a "leader-figure" in my group; actually I was not even a real part of the group, as I was a bit too different, but curiously my being different was widely accepted and tolerated.
I never was really saying what to do, but I also remember that I did manage, without even really noticing how, to get my whole class to make a fleamarket and donate the money for a charity organization, helping kids who have Cancer.

my teachers pointed out to my parents how special that was, and I had not even a clue what they were talking about.

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posted March 29, 2012 10:59 AM            

She talked about needing some sort of control over the beginnings of relationships - I'm paraphrasing, but she seemed to control whether or not anything happened.

I've had more than one man admit some sort of feelings to me, and it's making me uncomfortable. Just the slightest interest beyond friendship, feels like too much pressure to me. Jane didn't sound like it bothered her, but it's bothering me. I swore off relationships just before the New Year, hating the way I'd been feeling, and the fact that when I am approached, it's by men that i have no romantic interest in whatsoever. I actually want to be alone, and I'll be damned if it's like a beacon to a homing pigeon to these guys.

Saturn rules my 3rd house, and Venus is in Gemini. I'm really experiencing the need for lightness in relationships now - nothing remotely heavy/no pressure.

posted March 29, 2012 11:33 AM            

Asc, Dsc, Fixed.

May explain why my mutable sun does not like change and balks at it, but easily converts...

posted March 29, 2012 11:34 AM            

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Originally posted by hippichick:
IC, DC Mutable.

Asc, Dsc, Fixed.

May explain why my mutable sun does not like change and balks at it, but easily converts...

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OK --so you are not doing equal house?

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posted March 29, 2012 11:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

OK --so you are not doing equal house?

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The angles are in every system the same (and not always in the same modality); the only difference is that in equal the cusp of the 4th house is not identical with the IC, and the 10th house cusp may be different from MC.

posted March 29, 2012 12:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Ceri
This is how I see your leadership. You have the best of Sag in that you have a wonderful conscience and true desire to do the right think. It is not a fakey fake thing that is just talk.It is real and people want to follow that in you.

Speaking of conscience, will you tell me everything your Jupiter does

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It`s nice to be seen this way.
I definitely try to be like that.

Well, you might be disappointed in my Jupiter for its challenging aspects.

Let`s see
Jupiter on 11 Pisces in 3rd house (he rules my chart and my Stellium in Sag of course)

widely sextile Venus (5 degrees)
widely square Mars (6 degrees)
trine Saturn (5 degrees)
square Neptune (1 degree - they are also in mutual reception)
quinkunx Pluto (2 degrees)
square NN (1 degree)
square ASC (4 degrees)

Sabian for my Jupiter:
In The Sanctuary Of An Occult Brotherhood, Newly Initiated Members Are Being Examined And Their Character Tested

posted March 29, 2012 12:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
The angles are in every system the same (and not always in the same modality); the only difference is that in equal the cusp of the 4th house is not identical with the IC, and the 10th house cusp may be different from MC.

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OH I thought all angles were in the same modality.

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posted March 29, 2012 12:17 PM            

Ceri--since you are there. My mother has Jupiter oppose Uranus. Please explain that to me. Thank you! Please, be totally frank with old Sag cap on

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posted March 29, 2012 07:26 PM            

I think because my Sun is so close to the MC (in the 10th) that people often see me as a leader (cardinal) when I'm really really not. I can guide/teach, but it's a totally different thing to lead, in my opinion. I don't like being put in that position. My mutable Virgo MC just wants to go hide in the background somewhere.

posted March 29, 2012 07:55 PM            

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Originally posted by 5Gemini:
Libra rising...Im sexy and I know it

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